Someone's not going to be very happy!

[my2002lightning]

Well, turns out the story from what I've read is that there was an electrical short in the stereo system in the back where the 180 shot NOS tanks were mounted. :eek2:

Well, I think we can all see where this is going .... :cool:

Apologies to any dial-uppers out there, btw.

The Before:

http://www.nitrous4less.com/images/NavyC5Small.jpg


Terry what sort of total price-tag on this show-winning, near 10 sec. Vette?

Engine*
- 2002 LS-6 Short Block Motor,Vortex Ram Air w/ Powerduct,TPIS L/T
- Katech Stage 2+ Cam 581 lift/223 (intake) 588/227 (exhaust) 114 degree lobe separation, Katech Stage 2 LS6 heads, 2 Piece Eradispeeds, Corsa Indy w/ GTR Tips
- 180 NXL Direct port N20, Arizona Nitrous Shiftlight,
- Guages by Autometer,
Tranny*
- B&M Short Throw, SPEC Stage III Carbon Fiber Clutch, Z06 Slave
- Aluminum Flywheel, CAGS Eliminator
Stereo*
- Alpine 7977 , XM Radio, Diamond Audio Reference Series 6.5 w/ 1" tweeters
- Diamond Audio Tweeters (for front imaging),
(2) JL Audio 10w6
- JL Audio 500/1, 300/4, and 300/2


The After:
http://www.nitrous4less.com/images/Fire/Fire6.JPG

Here are the series of pics: http://www.nitrous4less.com/Fire.htm :eek2:

These are the jokers that installed the whole setup: http://www.nitrous4less.com (http://www.nitrous4less.com/) :hammer:

Crazy sh#t!

[Tex Arcana]

"Get that GREAT GM Feeling....!!!: :rll:

[r1eater]

*pulls nitrous bottle out of truck* :D

[TP Derrick D]

I WON'Tever run NOS on anything I own. The tranny man on my pit crew is rebuilding the front end(fenders,lights,etc and engine) on his '90 Mustang right now from a NOS explosion almost 2 years ago at Kennedale. :nono:

[TreeFiddy]

I'm sorry, but what does the nitrous bottle have to do with an electrical short? Was it full of hydrogen?

[r1eater]

I'm sorry, but what does the nitrous bottle have to do with an electrical short? Was it full of hydrogen?

Kinda what I was thinking too. The nitrous itself wont blow up. What caused this guys fire was an electrical short which caught everything on fire. The nitrous had nothing to do with it, think about it... The entire backend of the car would be ripped apart.

Now as for it blowing your engine up... Thats another story, but a properly setup and run nitrous system wont blow anything up.

[Tex Arcana]

Kinda what I was thinking too. The nitrous itself wont blow up. What caused this guys fire was an electrical short which caught everything on fire. The nitrous had nothing to do with it, think about it... The entire backend of the car would be ripped apart.

Now as for it blowing your engine up... Thats another story, but a properly setup and run nitrous system wont blow anything up.

There's a story out there, where a guy with a Maxima left his NOS bottle heater on, and the bottle failed and blew up, taking out the entire back half of the car. :eek: Maybe the issue was similar?

[r1eater]

There's a story out there, where a guy with a Maxima left his NOS bottle heater on, and the bottle failed and blew up, taking out the entire back half of the car. :eek: Maybe the issue was similar?


Sounds like an urban legend or again an inproper setup. If the pressure in the bottle got to high which happens if you leave the heater on and it's 105 outside :rolleyes: The blowoff valve will engage and dump the nitrous out. If you have it in the car you should have it blow off tube leading out of the car you dont get goofy driving around :d

[Tex Arcana]

Sounds like an urban legend or again an inproper setup. If the pressure in the bottle got to high which happens if you leave the heater on and it's 105 outside :rolleyes: The blowoff valve will engage and dump the nitrous out. If you have it in the car you should have it blow off tube leading out of the car you dont get goofy driving around :d

Um, no, not legend: here's the link (http://www.saturnspeed.com/nitrousexplosion.htm), and a couple of pics:

Before:
http://www.saturnspeed.com/images/nos_exp/before.jpg

After:
http://www.saturnspeed.com/images/nos_exp/rearend.jpg

[r1eater]

Um, no, not legend: here's the link (http://www.saturnspeed.com/nitrousexplosion.htm), and a couple of pics:

Before:
http://www.saturnspeed.com/images/nos_exp/before.jpg

After:
http://www.saturnspeed.com/images/nos_exp/rearend.jpg

Like I said before...
Sounds like an urban legend or again an inproper setup.

It says right on the link you sent..

At some point the the safety valve on the bottle failed to release the pressure. The pressure continued to rise until it caused the bottle to rupture in an explosive manner.....Currently it is not known if this failure was due to a manufacturing flaw, or if it was due to improper installation of the system. Mr.Shoenberger did not have the system installed at a Nitrous Express certified dealer, therefore Nitrous Express cannot be sure that it was installed correctly. Nitrous Express is currently attempting to recover the pieces of the system for analysis.


Key words improper installation of system.. Sounds like this guy probably installed it himself......

[Tex Arcana]

Like I said before...

It says right on the link you sent..

At some point the the safety valve on the bottle failed to release the pressure. The pressure continued to rise until it caused the bottle to rupture in an explosive manner.....Currently it is not known if this failure was due to a manufacturing flaw, or if it was due to improper installation of the system. Mr.Shoenberger did not have the system installed at a Nitrous Express certified dealer, therefore Nitrous Express cannot be sure that it was installed correctly. Nitrous Express is currently attempting to recover the pieces of the system for analysis.


Key words improper installation of system.. Sounds like this guy probably installed it himself......


Ah.. I missed the word "improper"... unless you ninja'd it.. :nono:

Urban legend, it ain't... likely improper installation, fer sure. :tu:

[r1eater]

no ninja action here.. check the email you got with my original reply :tu:

Lots of people freak out on Nitrous, its like voodoo or black magic. If you dont do it right it will gernade the motor for sure but that can be said for running too much timing or leaning the engine out too much. Besides WTF was he thinking running nitrous on a maxima :rll: :rll: :rll: :rll:

[Tex Arcana]

no ninja action here.. check the email you got with my original reply :tu:

Lots of people freak out on Nitrous, its like voodoo or black magic. If you dont do it right it will gernade the motor for sure but that can be said for running too much timing or leaning the engine out too much. Besides WTF was he thinking running nitrous on a maxima :rll: :rll: :rll: :rll:

"Ricer" :rolleyes:

[blueoval01]

Damn!! Looks like that sucker blew up in the garage!! :eek:

[Silver_2000]

Key words improper installation of system.. Sounds like this guy probably installed it himself......
Lets agree that if not for the Nitrous Bottle the car wouldnt have blown up.

Install or design makes NO difference -

NO NOS = No BOOM.... IN these 2 examples ...

[TreeFiddy]

Lets agree that if not for the Nitrous Bottle the car wouldnt have blown up.

Install or design makes NO difference -

NO NOS = No BOOM.... IN these 2 examples ...
I agree that without a bottle the car wouldn't have blown up, but actually "no pressurized bottle lacking adequate safety features combined with a stupid guy who doesn't remember to turn stuff off = no boom" is more accurate. Installation and owner responsibility makes all the difference in the world. It also appears that the explosion ruptured the fuel tank and there was some burning of the car. It's seems fortunate the guy didn't lose his house, because a nearly empty fuel tank has the potential to cause a larger explosion than a nitrous bottle.

There's no evidence of an explosion in the Corvette, just a fire, which an electrical short and some carpet is more than capable of starting on its own. Once again, nitrous oxide is not flammable, regardless of what we may have seen in The Fast & the Furious. Unless I'm mistaken, the reason for intakes blowing up with nitrous installations is due to fuel pooling in the intake on a wet system. Once again, installation and usage makes all the difference.

[r1eater]

Lets agree that if not for the Nitrous Bottle the car wouldnt have blown up.

Install or design makes NO difference -

NO NOS = No BOOM.... IN these 2 examples ...

Actually in one example... There is no correlation to the Nitrous bottle for the vette. Like I said before the back end of that vette would have been gone as it was with the Maxima.. The vette suffered from electrical short in the stereo system which caused the fire.

[r1eater]

Once again, nitrous oxide is not flammable, regardless of what we may have seen in The Fast & the Furious. Unless I'm mistaken, the reason for intakes blowing up with nitrous installations is due to fuel pooling in the intake on a wet system. Once again, installation and usage makes all the difference.

Also dont forget that the nitrous leans the motor out quite a bit. If your fuel mixture is not there to compensate... Bye bye motor

[TreeFiddy]

Also dont forget that the nitrous leans the motor out quite a bit. If your fuel mixture is not there to compensate... Bye bye motor
I agree. Detonation is an explosion, where combustion is a controlled burn. It's caused by the lean condition, which is only contributed to, not caused by, the nitrous oxide. The fact that it occurs in the combustion chamber was the reason I didn't cite it as an example.

Too early in the morning to tell if that paragraph makes any sense at all. :confused:

[Tex Arcana]

Lets agree that if not for the Nitrous Bottle the car wouldnt have blown up.

Install or design makes NO difference -

NO NOS = No BOOM.... IN these 2 examples ...


EDIT FOR EARLY MORNING STUPIDITY: Yeh, no NAAAWWWZ, no BOOM. :d

[cpeapea]

but its sooo much fun!

[wesman]

This pic has been circulating in the sport compact world for years......the reason it blew was because of a incorrectly installed bottle heater. They wired the heater to a continous power source ie. it didn't cut the power to the heater when the car was shut off. It eventually raised the pressure so high the nitrous bottle exploded because it didn't blow down as required...bye bye Maxima.

--wes