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SpeedyBolt
03-17-2006, 11:53 PM
Does anybody think that the new Army ACU's or ARPAT uniforms look stupid? I think the MARPAT of the Marines is O.k. but the Army stuff is just plain stupid looking.
I mean the Woodland prints BTW not the Desert. It's kind of hard to screw up sand!

my2002lightning
03-18-2006, 12:21 AM
I've always been partial to the Old-School chocolate-chip / cookie-dough pattern BDUs. I've got a pair of them from college I made into a pair of knee-length shorts. Tough-wearing garment!

http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/graphics/swatches/00039.gif

Now, when it comes to woodland camoflage patterns, I'm all about Mossy-Oak Breakup. knanaI'd wear a home-made ghillie suit deer-hunting, but we have to wear blaze-orange in addition by state regs.

Ronald

microsuck
03-20-2006, 07:21 PM
it works REALLY good though.

gbgary
03-20-2006, 09:54 PM
i think it's kinda cool looking but that's just me. goes with the new, computerized, army theme.

microsuck
03-20-2006, 10:21 PM
I think of LEGO men everytime i see it.

Shiner1
03-21-2006, 09:21 AM
I think it does a great job of breaking up the out line of the object/soldier and that's what it's all about.

Wht95Lightning
03-21-2006, 09:23 AM
It works and that's what matters. I'd rather look silly and avoid taking fire than be the poster boy for mossy oak and be taking small arms fire from a 12 year old with a AK.

SpeedyBolt
03-21-2006, 10:55 AM
I think that the MARPAT of the Marines does a good job of breaking up the soldier. The CADPAT of the Canadian army is BAD ASS!!

The Army's ACU pattern dosn't look like it would blend in with anything though.

Here's an example of the Army's ACU (All terrain combat uniform)

my2002lightning
03-21-2006, 06:25 PM
Gary,

I think you may have misunderstood my post. Whatever conceals and works the best in the respective surroundings - go with it. Just like how I respect the AK for what it does in the harshest of environments.

My Mossy-Oak comment was strictly meant regarding woodland concealment.

Ronald



It works and that's what matters. I'd rather look silly and avoid taking fire than be the poster boy for mossy oak and be taking small arms fire from a 12 year old with a AK.

Wht95Lightning
03-21-2006, 11:37 PM
Sorry, the mossy oak comment wasn't directed at you Ron. I just used that as an example because I see it EVERYWHERE, it's way over used.
I saw a set of Radians hunter ears in mossy oak the other day. Come'on, they're the size of a hearing aid. Why do they need to be camo? :rolleyes:



Gary,

I think you may have misunderstood my post. Whatever conceals and works the best in the respective surroundings - go with it. Just like how I respect the AK for what it does in the harshest of environments.

My Mossy-Oak comment was strictly meant regarding woodland concealment.

Ronald

L8 APEX
03-22-2006, 01:42 AM
It was designed to hide from computers more than people, night vision and thermal, digital imaging equipment etc. Discovery channel had a show about it and it did reduce the image found by a good margin.

microsuck
03-22-2006, 01:46 PM
I agree with everything but the thermal part.

SpeedyBolt
03-22-2006, 04:05 PM
It was designed to hide from computers more than people, night vision and thermal, digital imaging equipment etc. Discovery channel had a show about it and it did reduce the image found by a good margin.
Damn, I would have liked to have seen that show. Maybe they will replay it sometime in the near future.

my2002lightning
03-22-2006, 04:54 PM
I thought this was an interesting read regarding the DoD's direction on camouflage technology: http://www.special-operations-technology.com/article.cfm?DocID=874

Quote:

While few items are lower technology than the burlap or jute used in ghillie suit design, the future of camouflage appears to lie at the opposite end of the technology spectrum. Specifically, multiple service elements within DoD are focusing on the possibilities of personnel camouflage through the use of nanotechnology.

As an example, personnel from the Air Force’s 311th Human Systems Wing point to a range of cloaking technologies that will allow individuals to camouflage to match their environments. One representative effort is reportedly exploring composite fused carbon nanomesh for signature management and night vision cloaking. Army planners are also exploring nanotechnology as they look toward the future of camouflage. In a recent program briefing on the Army’s future warfighter technology, Jean-Louis “Dutch” DeGay from the Natick Soldier Systems Center explained that, “The reason that this [mockup] system is black is that we’re not so concerned about camouflage in the 2020-2025 timeframe because we are now looking at ‘cameleonic’ camouflage. If I have a nanomachine embedded in a textile I now have the ability to either mirror the environment that the individual soldier is walking around in or I can program onboard camouflage. So no longer do we have to carry two, three or four different sets of camouflage. The soldier carries one set and I can now configure the onboard camouflage system to the environment that I’m in, or, as we affectionately call it, ‘The Predator Effect,’ where the soldier becomes a mirror walking around inside the battlespace.”

When achieved, it promises to be the ultimate expression of Sun Tzu’s vision of hiding “in the most secret recesses of the earth…”:bows