racing question

[SIL02SVT]

There is a guy from my town that has a 00' F150 extended cab that he says is bone stock with a 125 shot of nitrous and a different suspension that wants to race me in my L. Can i beat him if he is just stock or with 125 shot of nos can it not be stock. also my truck is completly stock. let me know thanks.

[TXLIGHTNING]

There is a guy from my town that has a 00' F150 extended cab that he says is bone stock with a 125 shot of nitrous and a different suspension that wants to race me in my L. Can i beat him if he is just stock or with 125 shot of nos can it not be stock. also my truck is completly stock. let me know thanks. Go for it man! See what hes got. I think you should pull him. :tu:

[SIL02SVT]

Go for it man! See what hes got. I think you should pull him. :tu:
see thats what i was thinking but he wants to put a 100 bucks on it, so either he's lieing about being stock, or he is a dumb ass i don't know. what do you think.

[TXLIGHTNING]

You may come out 100 bucks richer. Either hes trying to bluff you out of a race because he knows he will loose, or he is lying about being stock with only nos. Its all up to you. Keep us updated if you do race him. :beer:

[SIL02SVT]

You may come out 100 bucks richer. Either hes trying to bluff you out of a race because he knows he will loose, or he is lying about being stock with only nos. Its all up to you. Keep us updated if you do race him. :beer:
Yea i'll keep you updated but i didn't hink you could hit a stock L with 125 shot of nos more less a stock f150 extended cab. I figured it would mess up the head or something right. but yea i'll keep ya posted i'll probally race him anyway ahaha whats a 100 bucks anyway. thats like 1 1/2 tanks of fuel. :burnout: he's done for haha.

[TXLIGHTNING]

Yea i'll keep you updated but i didn't hink you could hit a stock L with 125 shot of nos more less a stock f150 extended cab. I figured it would mess up the head or something right. That would be a question for Terry. He will know if the internals on a Ext cab F150 will hold up to a 150 shot. I think that it may be possible.

[SIL02SVT]

That would be a question for Terry. He will know if the internals on a Ext cab F150 will hold up to a 150 shot. I think that it may be possible.
Thats what i was saying earlier today i was asking what would be needed to put nos on my truck in the nitrous thread and he or wes said that 75shot would be ther biggest they would put on a stock lightning block or stock tune. Our L blocks are different then a stock F150 right.
TERRY HELP!!!

[TXLIGHTNING]

I believe that they use the same block and rods, but different pistons on our trucks. Is it a 4.6L or 5.4L. Our trucks are supercharged so we cant run very much nos without stronger internals. But a non supercharged truck could possibly run more nos.

[WA 2 FST]

It is easier/safer to run more nitrous on a naturally aspirated motor than it is one with a supercharger. So, yes he can run a 100-125+hp shot on a stock 5.4 2v block.

I think you'll beat him, even if you're stock. You have a gearing advantage for sure, even if the power is the same. Plus, your truck is lighter than his extended cab. Now, if he's lying and he has a lot of motor work done + the nitrous... who knows? But a stock L will run mid-13s. His truck stock will not run better than high-15s (probably low-16s). No way a 125hp shot is worth 2 full seconds in a 1/4 mile.

[TXLIGHTNING]

It is easier/safer to run more nitrous on a naturally aspirated motor than it is one with a supercharger. So, yes he can run a 100-125+hp shot on a stock 5.4 2v block.

I think you'll beat him, even if you're stock. You have a gearing advantage for sure, even if the power is the same. Plus, your truck is lighter than his extended cab. Now, if he's lying and he has a lot of motor work done + the nitrous... who knows? But a stock L will run mid-13s. His truck stock will not run better than high-15s (probably low-16s). No way a 125hp shot is worth 2 full seconds in a 1/4 mile. +1 :tu:

[SIL02SVT]

Thanks wes i'll race him and see what happens and i'll let you guys know.

[L8 APEX]

It is probably a 4.6 truck if it is his trans will break before he goes that fast. Stock pistons are cast crap in those engines. 4.6 or 5.4 makes about a half second difference. You should mop the house with him if you have a basic pulley and tune.

[wesman]

Thats what i was saying earlier today i was asking what would be needed to put nos on my truck in the nitrous thread and he or wes said that 75shot would be ther biggest they would put on a stock lightning block or stock tune. Our L blocks are different then a stock F150 right.
TERRY HELP!!!


Keep in mind he has a 8 cyl that isn't reaching near the combustion temps that you are with a 8cyl with boost on top. You can run a 125-150 shot, for a while......it all depends on what your goals are. If you want to win a few races and don't mind paying the piper when the time comes, go for it, throw a 150 shot on there.

--wes

[SIL02SVT]

It is probably a 4.6 truck if it is his trans will break before he goes that fast. Stock pistons are cast crap in those engines. 4.6 or 5.4 makes about a half second difference. You should mop the house with him if you have a basic pulley and tune.
Well terry how much would you charge me for say a 4# pully and a new tune, or do i have to have a chip before you can put a tune on?


Keep in mind he has a 8 cyl that isn't reaching near the combustion temps that you are with a 8cyl with boost on top. You can run a 125-150 shot, for a while......it all depends on what your goals are. If you want to win a few races and don't mind paying the piper when the time comes, go for it, throw a 150 shot on there.

--wes
No thanks i hardly ever race these are just like once in a while things so i don't need that 150 shot id rather loose then mess the L up.

[Sixpipes]

I remember racing a couple of Chevy 454SS at both Ennis and Denton Dragway. Both were modified and running 150 shot and I outran them easily with just a mild tune and aftermarket air filter. Should be no contest. :cool:

[GoldLS1]

I remember racing a couple of Chevy 454SS at both Ennis and Denton Dragway. Both were modified and running 150 shot and I outran them easily with just a mild tune and aftermarket air filter. Should be no contest. :cool:


How fast is ur truck?? I know one that ran those tracks pretty often... high 6s or 7 flat in the 1/8th. Nice truck very sleeperish for the motor (not a 454). Put down I think 685 to the rears on the dyno. Still had A/C, radio... full weight daily driver.

[SIL02SVT]

How fast is ur truck?? I know one that ran those tracks pretty often... high 6s or 7 flat in the 1/8th. Nice truck very sleeperish for the motor (not a 454). Put down I think 685 to the rears on the dyno. Still had A/C, radio... full weight daily driver.
Lol my first race was to one of those 454's and got my ass handed to me well it wasn't that bad it was still bad. but he said it was almost stock before we raced then afterward he said he had alot of money in it. I'm affraid thats what this guy is doing. I think someone with a modded out L should come up to sherman and race the guy....it would be a quick 100 bucks for ya. haha

[L8 APEX]

Stock 454SS trucks ran somewhere in the high 16's in the quarter and made only 240hp or so. Pooling a 6 sec truck with the original 454SS is like calling JLP's truck a Lightning:rolleyes: .
The 1990 454 SS 454ci Bigblock produces
at stock 230 horse power and 385 pounds of torque.

In 1992 the engine was reworked and tuned
to 255 horse power and 405 pounds of torque

[Sixpipes]

How fast is ur truck?? I know one that ran those tracks pretty often... high 6s or 7 flat in the 1/8th. Nice truck very sleeperish for the motor (not a 454). Put down I think 685 to the rears on the dyno. Still had A/C, radio... full weight daily driver.

High 6's is a caged truck and I can tell you it is not a stock block 454SS. Both the guys I raced were pretty much stock trucks with 150 shots. That is the point of reference for this thread; stock with spray. My truck at the time I raced these guys was a low 13 truck, and like I said, it was no contest. I may even have a vid of the white one I raced at Ennis back in 2000. I know I have the slip somewhere.

I have a bunch of LS1 victory slips as well.:evil

[SIL02SVT]

I have a bunch of LS1 victory slips as well.:evil
:rll: :rll: :rll: :rll: I wish i had some LS1's under my belt i'd be more confident racing.

[Sixpipes]

:rll: :rll: :rll: :rll: I wish i had some LS1's under my belt i'd be more confident racing.

Here's kind of what it looks like. :D

http://talonclub.com/movies/MVC-879W.MPG

[RSVT]

Here's kind of what it looks like. :D

http://talonclub.com/movies/MVC-879W.MPG

+1 i have a couple of LS1(Z28) under my belt also, u should be able to beat him off the line , go for it:D :nana2

[wesman]

Here's kind of what it looks like. :D

http://talonclub.com/movies/MVC-879W.MPG


heheh.....good work Dennis

[wesman]

How fast is ur truck?? I know one that ran those tracks pretty often... high 6s or 7 flat in the 1/8th. Nice truck very sleeperish for the motor (not a 454). Put down I think 685 to the rears on the dyno. Still had A/C, radio... full weight daily driver.


Sounds like fun.....I'll turn the wick up and see what JDM built.....is the posters truck red? Maybe we can trick him :rll::beer:

--wes

[Flats Man]

Another thing on this guy's F150 is that I don't believe the F150 got PI heads until 2001! I am pretty sure he is running the old heads if he is stock and that puts him down to about 300 at the wheels with a 100 shot at most! I had a little Eaton blower on a stock 4,6 with all the bells and whistles and only made 287 rwhp! lol I couldn't get out of the 14's!!

[SIL02SVT]

Na my truck is silver but he said he smokes L's all the time so anyone with a L could come and serve him up.

[L8 APEX]

I think 99 was the PI year, it was for stangs anyway and the L had them

[Mark #2]

Na my truck is silver but he said he smokes L's all the time so anyone with a L could come and serve him up.
I have a reasonably fast silver one.;)

[Flats Man]

I think 99 was the PI year, it was for stangs anyway and the L had them

That is very true but I am pretty sure that the 97-2000 F150 had the old heads and got the PI's in 2001. I know that I had to go to a 2001 F150 intake manifold in order to match up with the PI heads that I bought.

[GoldLS1]

Stock 454SS trucks ran somewhere in the high 16's in the quarter and made only 240hp or so. Pooling a 6 sec truck with the original 454SS is like calling JLP's truck a Lightning:rolleyes: .
The 1990 454 SS 454ci Bigblock produces
at stock 230 horse power and 385 pounds of torque.

In 1992 the engine was reworked and tuned
to 255 horse power and 405 pounds of torque


Terry:rolleyes: whos pooling a 6sec 454SS w/ a stock one, whos even talkin about a stock one?? Sixpipes was talkin about modded ones and so was I. I said the motor was NOT stock (it was a H/C 502 w/ a 150or200 shot depending on the night). Right now its under the knife doin TTs lookin for 1100 or bust!!

And no LS1s arent GOD (tho they are pretty stout). I raced a black L on Hwy360 w/ my Z28 and it was damn close. I had full bolt ons and a big cam. It ran under 7.5s in the 1/8th but up top my 4200 stall slowed me down. Btw anyone on here w/ a Black L remember racing a Gold Z28 Camaro a few months back??

[02SVTKID]

Yea man that was me,,,, i raced ya a while back funny that i remember it, prolly cause ur car sounds mean. I remember messing with ya it was fun. :tu:. It wasnt even cold out it was a warm summer night. Its pretty sweet how your on this site.

[GoldLS1]

Yea man that was me,,,, i raced ya a while back funny that i remember it, prolly cause ur car sounds mean. I remember messing with ya it was fun. :tu:. It wasnt even cold out it was a warm summer night. Its pretty sweet how your on this site.


Whats all done to your truck?? Hell yeah it was fun, you suprised the hell outa me :eek: ... Wish I coulda ran into ya after I got the new cam, maybe I coulda pulled on ya or if ya wouldnta shut down around 100 ;) . Nice ass truck tho man.

Btw heres a clip of the new cam I put in... http://video.ls1tech.com/video/272c3be9-d56d-4ec3-8d61-f7c177c3b120.htm
Damn I miss that car.

While Im at it heres to Ls racin...
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/7e511ef2-b725-4041-8274-9809001fe936.htm

[02SVTKID]

:eek: damn, thats a huge cam. I might have hesitated to race ya again lol. So you have an L now?? I havent really read the posts and its cool u live in arlington. Im thinkin we should have another meet in arlington at the hooters then go to the track after before it closes for the winter.

[GoldLS1]

Yeah I stepped it up a little had a 224/230 581/579 112lsa when I raced you. New cam was a 238/244 608/612 110LSA. Sad part is in that vid it was idle'n at 1000, w/ a tech II we dropped it down to 725 and it was just SICK.

And the camaro was totaled in a freak accident... I decided I wanted to replace it w/ a moderately fast truck and I always wanted BOOST, then I remembered yours SO.... I now own an 04 DSG L w/ 13,500 on the clock and counting by the 350ish weekly.

I miss hearin the lope and the shakin of the camaro but the whine of the L makes up for it. BTW... you never said your mods, PM me PLEASE.

[TP Derrick D]

Stock 454SS trucks ran somewhere in the high 16's in the quarter and made only 240hp or so. Pooling a 6 sec truck with the original 454SS is like calling JLP's truck a Lightning:rolleyes: .
The 1990 454 SS 454ci Bigblock produces
at stock 230 horse power and 385 pounds of torque.

In 1992 the engine was reworked and tuned
to 255 horse power and 405 pounds of torque

Those 454SS were all the rage when they came out then Ford came out with the Lightning in '93 and it was Light(s/ning) out for the 454SS. It completely went away. By the way Sixer, GoldLS1 don't think your L could beat a LS1, he don't think my Stang could beat one and its in the 600hp+ range and 1200 pounds lighter than an L. GM guys....

[BC Lightning]

What about the GMC Typhoon and Cyclones

[GoldLS1]

Those 454SS were all the rage when they came out then Ford came out with the Lightning in '93 and it was Light(s/ning) out for the 454SS. It completely went away. By the way Sixer, GoldLS1 don't think your L could beat a LS1, he don't think my Stang could beat one and its in the 600hp+ range and 1200 pounds lighter than an L. GM guys....


Ahhh come on now :bs ... dont bring up old news. I didnt say your stang couldnt beat a stock LS1, bolt on LS1, cammed LS1, H/C LS1, nitrous'd LS1, S/C LS1 or even a Turbo LS1 (even tho I know of many SI LS1s runnin 10s... does urs run 10s even w/ 600hp??). We could say well I know someone that could beat it and blahhhh blahhhhh back and forth all day. If you read above youd see about my cam only camaro runnin dead even w/ a pulley, exhuast, tuned L. I own a L and I was even suprised how peppy they were.

But everyone knows stock for stock the camaro takes the lightning if both are driven balls out, everytime (given no driver error, traction lost, breakage!!).

Both are great vehicles... cant we all just get along!! :banana:

[Sixpipes]

But everyone knows stock for stock the camaro takes the lightning if both are driven balls out, everytime...

I for one didn't know that...:evil

[SIL02SVT]

I for one didn't know that...:evil
Lol me either I was under the impression the L would take a stock F-body if it were stock.:hammer:

[BC Lightning]

But everyone knows stock for stock the camaro takes the lightning if both are driven balls out, everytime (given no driver error, traction lost, breakage!!).


Sorry Newb, but in my 6 years of owning 1 gen 1 and 2 gen 2's, a 1994, 2001 and 2004 L, I have had many races with many LS1 based cars Corvettes, Camaros, Trans AMs, I knew lots of good friends that had them and had plently of stock for stock runs, and I never lost to a LS1 based car from a dig, hell back when my 04 L was bone stock I let a buddy race it against my Coevette and still beat my vette, on the highway is a different stroy

[GoldLS1]

I for one didn't know that...:evil

My bad... youve been informed :D .

Really tho... stock Ls run what mid to high 13s...
Camaros run on avg low to mid 13s... however w/ a skilled driver they have ran 12.9xs and 12.8xs BONE STOCK.

Im not bashing or taking sides, like I said I like em both, Ive owned them both.

[GoldLS1]

Sorry Newb, but in my 6 years of owning 1 gen 1 and 2 gen 2's, a 1994, 2001 and 2004 L, I have had many races with many LS1 based cars Corvettes, Camaros, Trans AMs, I knew lots of good friends that had them and had plently of stock for stock runs, and I never lost to a LS1 based car from a dig, hell back when my 04 L was bone stock I let a buddy race it against my Coevette and still beat my vette, on the highway is a different stroy

Hummm funny Ive just the opposite experiences owning camaros 7yrs (4yrs w/ mine and 3 years w/ my parents/sisters LT1). Either way it doesnt matter. Each to their own. Ive own both and I think they are very close but I believe my camaro was faster when stock.

BUT no more flame wars please. I didnt join here to flame over the LS1 vs Fords debate. Im merly stating my honest opinion/experiences... dont hate me cuz ive always been a GM guy and fell into the dark side :evil .


Btw BC thanks for pointing out my NEWB status, like I or anyone else didnt know (38 posts) :D .

[TP Derrick D]

Hummm funny Ive just the opposite experiences owning camaros 7yrs (4yrs w/ mine and 3 years w/ my parents/sisters LT1). Either way it doesnt matter. Each to their own. Ive own both and I think they are very close but I believe my camaro was faster when stock.

BUT no more flame wars please. I didnt join here to flame over the LS1 vs Fords debate. Im merly stating my honest opinion/experiences... dont hate me cuz ive always been a GM guy and fell into the dark side :evil .


Btw BC thanks for pointing out my NEWB status, like I or anyone else didnt know (38 posts) :D .

Yeah, newb,
I was trying to warn you a couple weeks ago that this is a FORD site, not GM, but oh no you would'nt listen.So take your meds as it comes to you. But you probably can make it right by changing your name and becoming a supporting member and not a yappity registered GM user. After that, then we can all get along.J/K you man, but at least become a supporting member , especially if you want to be taken serious.:tu:

[GoldLS1]

Yeah, newb,
I was trying to warn you a couple weeks ago that this is a FORD site, not GM, but oh no you would'nt listen.So take your meds as it comes to you. But you probably can make it right by changing your name and becoming a supporting member and not a yappity registered GM user. After that, then we can all get along.J/K you man, but at least become a supporting member , especially if you want to be taken serious.:tu:


Its aight... Im a GM guy, will always be a GM guy. Kinda funny side story... theres an older guy at my work (50s) hes our mechanic. He NEVER talked to me while I owned my camaro. He would say hi and THATS it for 5months. Well first day I drove up in the L, he talked to me for over an hr. Ever since then he bothers me daily about when im goin to mod it. I told him one day, how come you never talked to me b4?? He was like well I liked your car and it sounded good, but im a FORD GUY. Not sure what the hell that has to do w/ anything but there ya go.

Anyhow where do I sign up for a supporting member. Not because I want to be taken seriously tho (take what I say for whats its worth to you), but because Im not a moooch and know how much it takes to keep sites like this up and runnin. It better not be paypal tho cuz I cant remember my damn password.

See ya in another thread Im done w/ this one :postwhore !!

[TP Derrick D]

Its aight... Im a GM guy, will always be a GM guy. Kinda funny side story... theres an older guy at my work (50s) hes our mechanic. He NEVER talked to me while I owned my camaro. He would say hi and THATS it for 5months. Well first day I drove up in the L, he talked to me for over an hr. Ever since then he bothers me daily about when im goin to mod it. I told him one day, how come you never talked to me b4?? He was like well I liked your car and it sounded good, but im a FORD GUY. Not sure what the hell that has to do w/ anything but there ya go.

Anyhow where do I sign up for a supporting member. Not because I want to be taken seriously tho (take what I say for whats its worth to you), but because Im not a moooch and know how much it takes to keep sites like this up and runnin. It better not be paypal tho cuz I cant remember my damn password.

See ya in another thread Im done w/ this one :postwhore !!

Go to the top of each forum and in big yellow letters it says SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR TALON, I believe its only paypal but contact Doug and he may tell you whats up.

[Tex Arcana]

Sorry Newb, but in my 6 years of owning 1 gen 1 and 2 gen 2's, a 1994, 2001 and 2004 L, I have had many races with many LS1 based cars Corvettes, Camaros, Trans AMs, I knew lots of good friends that had them and had plently of stock for stock runs, and I never lost to a LS1 based car from a dig, hell back when my 04 L was bone stock I let a buddy race it against my Coevette and still beat my vette, on the highway is a different stroy

Truth...

[wesman]

Hummm funny Ive just the opposite experiences owning camaros 7yrs (4yrs w/ mine and 3 years w/ my parents/sisters LT1). Either way it doesnt matter. Each to their own. Ive own both and I think they are very close but I believe my camaro was faster when stock.

BUT no more flame wars please. I didnt join here to flame over the LS1 vs Fords debate. Im merly stating my honest opinion/experiences... dont hate me cuz ive always been a GM guy and fell into the dark side :evil .


Btw BC thanks for pointing out my NEWB status, like I or anyone else didnt know (38 posts) :D .

I'm with you that LS1's are decently fast stock, not so much from a dig, but run very well on the highway. I've had experience on both sides of the fence.

However if you think a LT1 will run with either in either situation sir, you have lost all credibility.

--wes

[SIL02SVT]

Alright guys follow up racing nov. 11th at the sanger track (north on 35) Terry i need to know what you can do for me for about 400 bucks i have extra this month let me know what the best upgrades for me will be, also is there anyway to join the talon club besides paypal (they aren't a NRA backer) I don't like ppl that don't back firearms anyway let me know terry i need it quick i want to kill this guy he is talking alot of ****.

[Sixpipes]

11th at Denton? Dang, I need to get in a little track time myself. :evil

[L8 APEX]

400 will get you a pulley and a used programmer. That will pick up a stock truck 4-5 tenths set on kill. That is provided you have the traction... Drag racing is all in the first 60' more so on 1/8th mile tracks.

[GoldLS1]

I'm with you that LS1's are decently fast stock, not so much from a dig, but run very well on the highway. I've had experience on both sides of the fence.

However if you think a LT1 will run with either in either situation sir, you have lost all credibility.

--wes


Lets not speak of LT1s... They were nice when they came out but in hindsight the engineers def smoked crack while they created it. OPTI... WTF?? No room for headers. Reverse flow cooling system. No room to change the spark plugs.


Let me ask yall all this tho... how do ya say LS1s arent fast from a dig?? Are we talkin stock, slightly modified, or ??? Just curious no :throw: please.

[bluesvt]

From what I read I think stock. Not a :throw: but I raced a ws6 stock and he had T bars, exhaust and a lid I still took him from a 10 punch. This was prob 5 days after I got my truck. With the 6# tune and all I took a c5 on the street fairly easily the old man could not believe it. :d

[SIL02SVT]

Damn Terry thats it, Well maybe i can squeeze out $650-$675 outa my bank account what would that get me? and how much of a difference would that make?

[WA 2 FST]

400 will get you a pulley and a used programmer. That will pick up a stock truck 4-5 tenths set on kill. That is provided you have the traction... Drag racing is all in the first 60' more so on 1/8th mile tracks.

Terry, I know you have some programmers for sale, but I still have my SCT9100 available to offer as well. I don't know if this would be cheaper for someone like Kyle or not. I know I still need to get my Xcal over to you to flash.

[WA 2 FST]

Lets not speak of LT1s... They were nice when they came out but in hindsight the engineers def smoked crack while they created it. OPTI... WTF?? No room for headers. Reverse flow cooling system. No room to change the spark plugs.


Let me ask yall all this tho... how do ya say LS1s arent fast from a dig?? Are we talkin stock, slightly modified, or ??? Just curious no :throw: please.

I'm not on one side or the other (although I know TP Derrick doesn't believe me ;) ...it's all good, my friend!), but here is my experience.

Same track, same day (95^F heat)... stock 99L ... 13.9 @ 99mph, stock '02 L... 13.65 @ 101mph, ... stock '01 WS6 T/A (heaviest of all the LS1 F-bodies) with 6-speed... 13.5 @ 104mph. These were run at Ennis.

Now, who knows about the drivers' abilities. I know all these people, but this was not the same driver for each car. The '02L had a better 1/8mile time than the '01 WS6. With the 6spd, the WS6 is certainly less consistent on the launch than any auto trans vehicle, which certainly includes the L.

From a dig to ~80mph (2nd to 3rd shift) it is hard to beat an L (given vehicles with nearly equal power/weight ratios). But from a 50+mph punch, there is no way a stock L will outrun a stock LS1. Not unless the LS1 owner is in the wrong gear. Modify either and all bets are off. :)

[L8 APEX]

At a 100 degrees sure, what about 40 degrees and from 0-60 or 80mph, yer done son!

[tiffo60]

11th at Denton? Dang, I need to get in a little track time myself. :evil

count me in, my new tranny and stall should be in so nice day to break it all inknana

[WA 2 FST]

At a 100 degrees sure, what about 40 degrees and from 0-60 or 80mph, yer done son!

At 40^, a stock LS1 WS6 will run low, low-13s at over 106mph. I have yet to see a bone stock L do that at a track here in Texas.

We're saying the same thing... 0-60 or 0-80 the L is a tough race unless the other vehicle has a superior power/weight ratio. Power/weight being equal, it will take a good driver to beat the L.

[SIL02SVT]

So uhhh... Terry what would be the best set up for my truck on the 11th, I could probally put about 1k in it in the next 2 weeks what would be the best first mods?
Also where do you get the TALON stickers for your truck, and when i do get one can i get it made in any color i want or does it have to be blue?

Also does anyone know if you have to wear a helmet at this track sorry for the dumb question i've never raced on a actual track.

[Sixpipes]

So uhhh... Terry what would be the best set up for my truck on the 11th, I could probally put about 1k in it in the next 2 weeks what would be the best first mods?
Also where do you get the TALON stickers for your truck, and when i do get one can i get it made in any color i want or does it have to be blue?

Also does anyone know if you have to wear a helmet at this track sorry for the dumb question i've never raced on a actual track.

You'll need a helmet and the TALON sticker is worth a 1/10 at the track. :cool:

[wesman]

Lets not speak of LT1s... They were nice when they came out but in hindsight the engineers def smoked crack while they created it. OPTI... WTF?? No room for headers. Reverse flow cooling system. No room to change the spark plugs.


Let me ask yall all this tho... how do ya say LS1s arent fast from a dig?? Are we talkin stock, slightly modified, or ??? Just curious no :throw: please.


Stock, I thought that's what this discussion was about. I respect the LS1's, the run good for a small amount of money. If only they would have put them in a better built car.

--wes

[SIL02SVT]

Damit i don't have a helmet and i'm glad the talon sticker is worth that much at the track.:D

Terry chime in...

[tiffo60]

Damit i don't have a helmet and i'm glad the talon sticker is worth that much at the track.:D

Terry chime in...


if im there which i plan on being you can borrow my helmet

[RSVT]

ill be there, what time on the 11th?

[SIL02SVT]

ill be there, what time on the 11th?
Not sure of the time, When i get more details i'll let you guys know. Also tiffton i'd really appreciate that man.

[Lyfisin]

I didn't have a helmet last year and it's kind of a problem at least on the first pass because we were all in line together. To borrow a helmet, someone is going to have to bring an extra one, or they'll have to be near the front of the line and hand it off to you while you're near the end of the line.

I was able to run the first race without a helmet, but I had to dial in a 14.00 or I couldn't go down. Anything in the 13s required a helmet.

Interestingly enough, they didn't seem to say anything while we were doing test and tune. It was only when you had to put a dial in time that it was a concern.

[tiffo60]

I didn't have a helmet last year and it's kind of a problem at least on the first pass because we were all in line together. To borrow a helmet, someone is going to have to bring an extra one, or they'll have to be near the front of the line and hand it off to you while you're near the end of the line.

I was able to run the first race without a helmet, but I had to dial in a 14.00 or I couldn't go down. Anything in the 13s required a helmet.

Interestingly enough, they didn't seem to say anything while we were doing test and tune. It was only when you had to put a dial in time that it was a concern.

i have an extra he can borrow:tu:

[SIL02SVT]

i have an extra he can borrow:tu:
Sweet!!!! Terry was that quote earlier for the pully and the programmer alone or was that installed with a tune? If not anyone what a free 30pak and some cash I have a shop with lifts and every tool imaginable but its out in the middle of BFE and i don't know the first thing about installing pullys or anything of that nature... I was a sad ricer for about 4 years (99 Eclipse riced out)hahah but now i've moved up to the ranks of adult and bought something worth driving. HELP PLEASE!!!!

[GoldLS1]

Nice insight guys... preciate yall keepin it civil!!

Wes speakin of 1/8th mile times... I forgot a guy I went to high school w/ had a 02 L. Catback only it ran 9.0 in the 1/8th, my 98 Z28 w/ catback only (I had it less than a week!!) ran 8.7. Both full weight on street tires. I dont remember the mph or 60'. Had another guy there in a stock 01 WS6 that ran 8.9 w/ a spinning 60' (think his was like a 2.5 cuz we ALL laughed at him). I have it on video sumwhere, but cant find the tape.

Anyhow tho... I might have to go to a track to see what mine has in it bone stock (I think). I live about 8 miles from kennedale.

[GoldLS1]

Stock, I thought that's what this discussion was about. I respect the LS1's, the run good for a small amount of money. If only they would have put them in a better built car.

--wes

You mean you dont like rattles, squeeks, another misc sounds?!?!? I must say tho they are sturdy (seen two of them wrecked up close :( , one was my sisters LT1 and the other was mine :crying: ). They both held up EXTREMELY well in a rollover (4 revolutions, sisters car) and a high speed rearend + front impact.

[tiffo60]

Nice insight guys... preciate yall keepin it civil!!

Wes speakin of 1/8th mile times... I forgot a guy I went to high school w/ had a 02 L. Catback only it ran 9.0 in the 1/8th, my 98 Z28 w/ catback only (I had it less than a week!!) ran 8.7. Both full weight on street tires. I dont remember the mph or 60'. Had another guy there in a stock 01 WS6 that ran 8.9 w/ a spinning 60' (think his was like a 2.5 cuz we ALL laughed at him). I have it on video sumwhere, but cant find the tape.

Anyhow tho... I might have to go to a track to see what mine has in it bone stock (I think). I live about 8 miles from kennedale.

my 2000 L went 8.56 in the 1/8th bone stock except for a K&N and 20in wheels

[BC Lightning]

Sayle (Band) ran a 13.1 in the 1/4 bone stock with street tires :cool:

[WA 2 FST]

Sayle (Band) ran a 13.1 in the 1/4 bone stock with street tires :cool:

Not at Ennis, and not in 95^F heat. ;)

I would never say a bone stock L can't beat a bone stock LS1 F-bod. The times I posted above show how close they can be. But that's why I only put stock in times run at the same track on the same day when comparing vehicles. Otherwise, we all have the slowest vehicles east of the Rocky Mountains, and those guys running at ATCO in NJ got all the fast vehicles from the plant. :)

[L8 APEX]

Auto vs auto also Wes, you and your 6K launching 6 speeds:nono: :D

[tiffo60]

Alright guys follow up racing nov. 11th at the sanger track (north on 35) Terry i need to know what you can do for me for about 400 bucks i have extra this month let me know what the best upgrades for me will be, also is there anyway to join the talon club besides paypal (they aren't a NRA backer) I don't like ppl that don't back firearms anyway let me know terry i need it quick i want to kill this guy he is talking alot of ****.

i just looked at the schedule for denton raceway and they show it closed on the 11th? Its open friday night the 10th, but not saturday

[03LightningRocks]

Not at Ennis, and not in 95^F heat. ;)

I would never say a bone stock L can't beat a bone stock LS1 F-bod. The times I posted above show how close they can be. But that's why I only put stock in times run at the same track on the same day when comparing vehicles. Otherwise, we all have the slowest vehicles east of the Rocky Mountains, and those guys running at ATCO in NJ got all the fast vehicles from the plant. :)


There where a few of out at Hallsville that day. If I remember right it was around 45 degrees. Someone out there was checking the DA and it was at 700 foot. All of us ran about 2-3 tenths better than our previous bests. Point is....yep...it was one of those days at the track when everything seemed to fall into place. Good traction, good track conditions and perfect weather. I guess you just had to be there...LOL.

Mid to high 13's where the 99-00 L's. And those numbers came from bullsh!t magazine publications. Many a stock L has cut 13.3x's to 13.49 right here in Texas.

Beats hell out of me if that's good enough to beat POS GM's or not. But then again, I was whipping vipers out at Ennis running mid 12's while they bragged about how fast they could run.

[SIL02SVT]

i just looked at the schedule for denton raceway and they show it closed on the 11th? Its open friday night the 10th, but not saturday
Tiff i asked the guy if it was denton or sanger and he said it was in sanger not denton so if you guys have ever heard of that track i guess thats where we'll be...But i'd appreciate it if you guys came out for some support....

[GoldLS1]

Anyone going out to kennedale tomorrow??

[tiffo60]

Tiff i asked the guy if it was denton or sanger and he said it was in sanger not denton so if you guys have ever heard of that track i guess thats where we'll be...But i'd appreciate it if you guys came out for some support....

get all the info you can, link to the website if possible, but atleast address and times

[Sixpipes]

The track is halfway between Sanger and Denton, but it is called the Denton Dragway. :cool:

http://www.dentondragway.com/schedule/novschedule.htm

[tiffo60]

The track is halfway between Sanger and Denton, but it is called the Denton Dragway. :cool:

http://www.dentondragway.com/schedule/novschedule.htm


thats the one i thought it was, but its closed that saturday:rolleyes:

[SIL02SVT]

thats the one i thought it was, but its closed that saturday:rolleyes:
Hmmm!!! well i'll just have to talk to the dude and see what he is talking about ok. Thanks again guys.

[SIL02SVT]

Alright guys 10th it is, Friday night Nov. 10th Denton raceway. see you guys there who ever is going.

[RSVT]

so its on the 10th, ill try to make it, i work a 13 hr shift on fridays

[SIL02SVT]

so its on the 10th, ill try to make it, i work a 13 hr shift on fridays
Na sorry bro the dude backed out...