Will the Tuna return for next year?

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Here is a poll for you.. The Tuna has $8 million reasons to return, but does he have the fire in him to do it at least one more time?

Dana

[Sixpipes]

Yes, but TO will not... I personally wish they both would leave. :cool:

[RSVT]

Here is a poll for you.. The Tuna has $8 million reasons to return, but does he have the fire in him to do it at least one more time?

Dana

yes, he will return, he still gots the NCAA draft, and free agents, and then the guys thats didnt get drafted and he can still trade players, so i think he'll give it another shot with this, and let Tony Romo start to see what he can do from the start of the season instead of starting at the mid of the season

[BC Lightning]

yes, he will return, he still gots the NCAA draft, and free agents, and then the guys thats didnt get drafted and he can still trade players, so i think he'll give it another shot with this, and let Tony Romo start to see what he can do from the start of the season instead of starting at the mid of the season

Like I said in the other post I would really suprised if Tuna stays, even at the beginning of the season it was predicted he would leave, and frankley I wish he would

Yes Tony Romo is a step up, but still has a long way to go, but with his ability to make things happen I think T.O. will stay at least one more year, however like Tom stated earlier, now there is alot more video out on Romo and I don't think he will have quite the spark he did when he took over

I heard on 103.3 that Jerry Jones wants to try and switch to a 3 running back rotation with JJ, Barber and Tyson

[WA 2 FST]

I heard on 103.3 that Jerry Jones wants to try and switch to a 3 running back rotation with JJ, Barber and Tyson

:rolleyes: Great, more Jerry meddling in the game. That (and to an extent the salary cap) is what brought the organization down from its pinnacle in the mid-90s.

Heck, they can probably draft someone better than all 3. Running backs need carries. 8-9 a game for 3 guys isn't going to work, no matter who it is back there.

[Shiner1]

Yes, but TO will not... I personally wish they both would leave. :cool:

+1

[Tex Arcana]

Listening to the talking head and analysts, including the gang on NBC5, the consensus is Fishhead staying for another year, and T.O. as well. Hell, as Drew Pearson said it last nite, T.O.'s last interview after the game was not only subdued, it showed a man who was positively HUMBLED. And a humble man is worth 10 overconfident ones; so I agree with DP that TO should come back, with Tuna, because now Parcells has a very good wide reciever (who managed to lead the league in touchdowns with a bum hand) who is now humbled and willing to not only listen, but to play with the team.

As for Parcells: if he comes back with a tweaked offensive line, and is able to pick up a GOOD safety or two, the tools are there for a better run. Ditch Dreadsoe, get a vet who's not only willing to backup but work with the starter, teach Julius Jones how to block, and work Miles Austin into the starting recieving corps, and I think we'll do well. Oh, and get another defensive end, in case Ellis isn't able to come back.

[Tex Arcana]

:rolleyes: Great, more Jerry meddling in the game. That (and to an extent the salary cap) is what brought the organization down from its pinnacle in the mid-90s.

Heck, they can probably draft someone better than all 3. Running backs need carries. 8-9 a game for 3 guys isn't going to work, no matter who it is back there.

Actually, Jerry wasn't the first to say that, he's just parrotting back what Parcells has wanted from the beginning of the season.

If you look at the stats, JJ and MB ran for a total of almost 1700-1800 yards combined--that would kill a single running back (Earl Campbell, anyone?).

I have to agree with Parcells (and he's not the only one, look around the league): two or three RBs are the way to go. The players are all so much bigger and stronger, that a single RB getting the lion's share of carries is dead meat. Tyson's pretty good, 'cept he tends to drop the ball; JJ is fast, and should run the outside routes; and MB has moves that would make Emmitt proud. Combine them, and you have an effective overall running game, with a better chance to keep them all healthy.

Now to fix that offensive line...

[bluesvt]

Romo needs to go, I can not stand that guy. I am prob the only one thinking this but we need a new QB. I like Tuna, but I could care less about the Boys it's all about the Pats. :beer: :D Just clarifying I did not jump on the Pats bandwagon I have liked them for about 12 years now.

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Actually, Jerry wasn't the first to say that, he's just parrotting back what Parcells has wanted from the beginning of the season.

If you look at the stats, JJ and MB ran for a total of almost 1700-1800 yards combined--that would kill a single running back (Earl Campbell, anyone?).



I didn't say anything about 2 RB's, but you cannot give 3 equal carries consistently. There are just not enough snaps in the game. Period. In a game you're ahead most of the time, each would get 9-10 carries, max. In a game where you fall behind early, they'd be lucky to get 7. Ask _any_ RB who had a quality career if that is enough to get into the flow. It's not. You can watch as much film as you want, but you have to get a few carries typically to get a feel for what the defense is doing.

I understand a "3rd down back" and a "goal line" back, and to an extent that's what MB was, albeit a bit more than that. He'd rotate in for a full series here and there and Tuna would use whoever was having a better game for the majority. What works with 2 will not work well with 3. You might be able to get the 3rd guy a few carries here or there, but not even close to equal time.

_t.o._ "humbled" just kills me. Drew Pearson needs to put down his crack pipe on that one. Subdued? Yes, he was. Humbled. BS. Give it 48-72 hours.

[Tex Arcana]

I didn't say anything about 2 RB's, but you cannot give 3 equal carries consistently. There are just not enough snaps in the game. Period. In a game you're ahead most of the time, each would get 9-10 carries, max. In a game where you fall behind early, they'd be lucky to get 7. Ask _any_ RB who had a quality career if that is enough to get into the flow. It's not. You can watch as much film as you want, but you have to get a few carries typically to get a feel for what the defense is doing.

I understand a "3rd down back" and a "goal line" back, and to an extent that's what MB was, albeit a bit more than that. He'd rotate in for a full series here and there and Tuna would use whoever was having a better game for the majority. What works with 2 will not work well with 3. You might be able to get the 3rd guy a few carries here or there, but not even close to equal time.

_t.o._ "humbled" just kills me. Drew Pearson needs to put down his crack pipe on that one. Subdued? Yes, he was. Humbled. BS. Give it 48-72 hours.


I dunno, if you're spreading 40 carries about, I can see it working, but that may be way too many to consider.

We'll have to wait and see, but I'm stickin' to my guns: they'll both be back.

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I dunno, if you're spreading 40 carries about, I can see it working, but that may be way too many to consider.


Give me more than 1-2 examples of games where there were 40 carries this year (if there were that many). Typically they are ~30-33... if they are ahead early in the game. If they get behind then for the last half of the 3rd and the entire 4th quarter there might be 5 carries total and the total carries ends up being in the 20-25 range.

Very seldom did one back get more than 20 and the other get into double-figures.

Add a 3rd back in there, and it shrinks it all considerably.

As far as Tuna + t.o., I hope at least one is gone.

[Tex Arcana]

Give me more than 1-2 examples of games where there were 40 carries this year (if there were that many). Typically they are ~30-33... if they are ahead early in the game. If they get behind then for the last half of the 3rd and the entire 4th quarter there might be 5 carries total and the total carries ends up being in the 20-25 range.

Very seldom did one back get more than 20 and the other get into double-figures.

Add a 3rd back in there, and it shrinks it all considerably.

As far as Tuna + t.o., I hope at least one is gone.


That's why I said, "...but that may be way too many to consider." :tongue:

[WA 2 FST]

I looked it up anyway.

411 total carries by RB's (all, including Thomson and Polite) = 25.7/game
20.5 carries in losses, 29.7 carries in wins.

3 backs? No way. Reinventing the wheel at this point is ridiculous. You can have 2, but still it will almost never be split evenly (this happened 2x this year when Barber and Jones were within a couple of carries of each other _and_ both were in double digits...otherwise, there was a significant disparity b/w them). Keeping the lead guy (whoever it is) is understandable and smart. Landry did that with Dorsett and prolonged his career, for sure.

Also, the biggest complaint about the offense this year (although it scored a LOT of points, so its hard to complain about it in general) was that they didn't throw it enough. As Romo gains experience, I have a feeling they'll open it up even more passing the football, meaning less carries. Total plays will probably not go up by any real measure, so carries will most likely go down.

[Tex Arcana]

I looked it up anyway.

411 total carries by RB's (all, including Thomson and Polite) = 25.7/game
20.5 carries in losses, 29.7 carries in wins.

3 backs? No way. Reinventing the wheel at this point is ridiculous. You can have 2, but still it will almost never be split evenly (this happened 2x this year when Barber and Jones were within a couple of carries of each other _and_ both were in double digits...otherwise, there was a significant disparity b/w them). Keeping the lead guy (whoever it is) is understandable and smart. Landry did that with Dorsett and prolonged his career, for sure.

Also, the biggest complaint about the offense this year (although it scored a LOT of points, so its hard to complain about it in general) was that they didn't throw it enough. As Romo gains experience, I have a feeling they'll open it up even more passing the football, meaning less carries. Total plays will probably not go up by any real measure, so carries will most likely go down.


Point conceded on the multi-back system. :tu:

Threw *too* much?? It didn't feel that way, seemed that they went to the pass much sooner in the last 5 games.

Come to think of it, I can think of one more significant change they need to make: replace Julius Jones. He just cannot find the hole and exploit it very well, most of his runs are the 2-yd variety that end up with him hitting a large body in the hole he was supposed to use, and falling on his butt. Yes, he can break a big gain once in a while, but that's nothing more than sheer speed and a hole big enough to drive our entire club thru. Rest of the time he's just falling down after an insignificant gain. Granted, given his speed, he should be an open-field runner, meaning he should be doing outside runs instead of between the tackles; on the other hand, I just don't think he's all he's been cracked up to be (Notre Dame players tend to be regarded as "great", but everything I've seen points to them being mediocre at best, and looking good because their opponents are just plain bad).

Id' like to see us trade JJ off, get a move up in the draft, and pick a GOOD running back, who can start immediately; or, better yet, some o-line guys and a safety or two.

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How about Michael Bush (I think that's his name) from Louisville? He's coming off a bad knee injury, so he might be had in a lower round. Same type of thing with that guy who played for the Univ. of Miami and is now a very good RB for the Bills. His name escapes me at the moment, but he's really good and Buffalo got him late b/c of his bad knee injury in his last college game.

No one in the Cowboys current backfield scares me. Should've taken Stephen Jackson when they had the chance.:rolleyes:

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I just read on NFL.com that Bill has a job waiting for him @ the Giants as a GM but r still awaiting the Giants head coach responds on if hes coming back or not

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I just read on NFL.com that Bill has a job waiting for him @ the Giants as a GM but r still awaiting the Giants head coach responds on if hes coming back or not

that may be true, but I doubt they pay GM's $8M a year.

[StormShadow]

How about Michael Bush (I think that's his name) from Louisville? He's coming off a bad knee injury, so he might be had in a lower round. Same type of thing with that guy who played for the Univ. of Miami and is now a very good RB for the Bills. His name escapes me at the moment, but he's really good and Buffalo got him late b/c of his bad knee injury in his last college game.

No one in the Cowboys current backfield scares me. Should've taken Stephen Jackson when they had the chance.:rolleyes:


Willis McGahee

[Tex Arcana]

I just read on NFL.com that Bill has a job waiting for him @ the Giants as a GM but r still awaiting the Giants head coach responds on if hes coming back or not

That was on the news last nite, and the Gnats turned him down, want someone younger. :rolleyes: I guess that means that fishhead is looking for a way out and back to New Yark Ceetay, so maybe counting the chickens is a tad premature. :(

[wesman]

It seems that 8 million reasons weren't enough to bring big Bill back, he officially retired from coaching professional football this morning


--wes

[Tex Arcana]

HOly carp... well, I guess it's for the better, if they can get a young, hungry, and disciplined coach in here. Tho, I get a funny feeling that Jerry's gonna step in and really run things into the ground. :eek2:

[Silver_2000]

is it too late tio vote on the poll ? :evil :evil

[BC Lightning]

Like I said earlier, I knew Tuna was gone before this past season started, and after watching him this season I not only knew he would be gone, but am glad to see him go