something under the hood?

[Ohmsby]

Found this under the hood


2222

2223


:D I would like to thank the elves who helped (A pair of Steve's)

[tiffo60]

poonanny:d

looks good manknana

[FRDRCING]

Looks Good John, thouhgt you were going with a kb 2.6.

[Mark #2]

That boat money has to be running out by now.;)
Looks great.:tu:

[Ohmsby]

That boat money has to be running out by now.;)
Looks great.:tu:

:D The boat money was for the Gen 1 I have not justified this purchase but I will get back to you.

The sale of 2 KB 2.3 and 2 JLP sheetmetal plenums may have done it

The truck is running very good we need to do some Data Logging but it was a little chilly this evening.

[L-Fever]

I bow down to the mighty whipple! :bows

[Mark #2]

:D The boat money was for the Gen 1 I have not justified this purchase but I will get back to you.

The sale of 2 KB 2.3 and 2 JLP sheetmetal plenums may have done it

The truck is running very good we need to do some Data Logging but it was a little chilly this evening.

What are you using to data log?

[Ohmsby]

What are you using to data log?

SCT Live Link we are also logging the A/f through the same program

[Mark #2]

SCT Live Link we are also logging the A/f through the same program

SCT#2 or pro racer package?
What version of the software?

[Ohmsby]

SCT#2 or pro racer package?
What version of the software?

SCT 2 live load 3

[RSVT]

:bows Whipple, thats good under the hood

[Ohmsby]

:bows Whipple, thats good under the hood

mine is from eastern Europe it's POLISH.... ed:D

[99WhiteBeast]

I have whipple envy:d :bows:cool:

[my2002lightning]

Very nice, John. It goes well with your chromey Frankenstein wheels. :cool:

[whitelightning'02]

I have whipple envy:d :bows:cool:

+ 1

:beer:

[charlie]

I have whipple envy:d :bows:cool:

+2

[Sixpipes]

So I graduate to a built motor and a baby KB and everyone else moves up to the big dog blowers. I guess I will just have to be happy with my little weiner...



for a while. :evil

Very nice looking set up. :tu: :tu:

[GoldLS1]

The sale of 2 KB 2.3 and 2 JLP sheetmetal plenums may have done it


Glad I could help... Im working with Terry right now to find a date for the install. Nice meeting you btw, your trucks are sweet :bows .

[bluesvt]

So I graduate to a built motor and a baby KB and everyone else moves up to the big dog blowers. I guess I will just have to be happy with my little weiner...



for a while. :evil

Very nice looking set up. :tu: :tu:

At least you got rid of your Heaton. I'm still waiting for that day to come.
Looks bad a$$ John :bows

[RSVT]

seen that bad boy in person today looks a whole lot nicer in person, nice setup john, BTW do you have a SCT maf meter ba2400 for sale? Thanks alot for the rims man

[Beaudee]

:bows Time for roll bars.

[FRDRCING]

John both trucks sound and look good:tu:

[L8 APEX]

So I graduate to a built motor and a baby KB and everyone else moves up to the big dog blowers. I guess I will just have to be happy with my little weiner...



for a while. :evil

Very nice looking set up. :tu: :tu:
The Whipple is still the same displacement as the KB at 2.3 liters. It is mainly a looks swap. The KB 2.6 is the bad daddy I have seen them run 10's on 14psi street tunes with 1.77 60's. Show me a 10 second Whipple at 14psi:rolleyes: .

[Fuzion]

Looking at this thread makes me want one..... yea, that sounds good. Get me a black whipple and a custom made upper cog pulley.

Terry will have something to do in a year!

[Mark #2]

The Whipple is still the same displacement as the KB at 2.3 liters. It is mainly a looks swap. The KB 2.6 is the bad daddy I have seen them run 10's on 14psi street tunes with 1.77 60's. Show me a 10 second Whipple at 14psi:rolleyes: .

Terry, what do think about a 2.6 at 14psi on a stock block?

[Ohmsby]

I look forward to some track time to see what we can do with the truck. I wrestled with the KB 2.6 or Whipple and I made the choice.

No doubt several trucks are running really strong W/ the 2.6 but some guys are going 10's on an Whipple or 2.3 and a few Eatons. Like anything I think a culmination of efforts helps achieve success

[L8 APEX]

Everyone running 10's with KB and WHipple 2.3 are running over 18psi and 18-20 degrees of timing.
The 2.6 is a violent beast I think it would tear a stock block to pieces. The 2.6 is large and explosive. When I was tuning on Wes truck which has drag radials and traction bars. Even roll ons under 60mph were met with explosive tire spin. The 2.6 hits so hard when you tip in it, it is scary even for an experienced driver. The 2.3 stuff just pulls hard and sounds good, it is not violent and scary.

[Mark #2]

Everyone running 10's with KB and WHipple 2.3 are running over 18psi and 18-20 degrees of timing.
The 2.6 is a viloent beast I think it would tear a stock block to pieces. The 2.6 is large and explosive. When I was tuning on Wes truck which has drag radials and traction bars. Even roll ons under 60mph were met with explosive tire spin. The 2.6 hits so hard when you tip in it, it is scary even for an experienced driver. The 2.3 stuff just pulls hard and sounds good, it is not violent and scary.

I don't understand how a 13% increase in displacement on the blower would be so different, but that is just my opinion and physics?

I need to do some research on the volume of air at various RPMs for the 2.3 versus the 2.6.

If the data doesn't scare me, I'll put a 2.6 on the stock motor and see what happens.;)
Remember when a 4lb lower pulley was death for a stock motor?

[tiffo60]

I don't understand how a 13% increase in displacement on the blower would be so different, but that is just my opinion and physics?

I need to do some research on the volume of air at various RPMs for the 2.3 versus the 2.6.

If the data doesn't scare me, I'll put a 2.6 on the stock motor and see what happens.;)
Remember when a 4lb lower pulley was death for a stock motor?

why weigh the decision, just do it:evil

[L8 APEX]

You know how a KB builds boost as RPM's increase, with the new inlet and rotor profile of the 2.6 it is there instantly and in copius amounts. The entire rear section of the blower is open to the rotors unlike the Eaton and KB2.3 which are top fed and shrouded by case.

[wesman]

Everyone running 10's with KB and WHipple 2.3 are running over 18psi and 18-20 degrees of timing.
The 2.6 is a violent beast I think it would tear a stock block to pieces. The 2.6 is large and explosive. When I was tuning on Wes truck which has drag radials and traction bars. Even roll ons under 60mph were met with explosive tire spin. The 2.6 hits so hard when you tip in it, it is scary even for an experienced driver. The 2.3 stuff just pulls hard and sounds good, it is not violent and scary.

I can say from personal experience this man speaks the truth :D

I've obviously had both the 2.3 and the 2.6. I can say that my butt dyno feels that the truck is faster and makes more power now at 14-15psi than it did with the 2.3L and a 60 shot at 18psi.

YMMV

--wes

[Sixpipes]

I can say from personal experience this man speaks the truth :D

I've obviously had both the 2.3 and the 2.6. I can say that my butt dyno feels that the truck is faster and makes more power now at 14-15psi than it did with the 2.3L and a 60 shot at 18psi.

YMMV

--wes

I am a fan of the a$$-0-meter. I believe it is more accurate than a G-Tech for sure and depending on how it is calibrated can be downright reliable when determining acceleration and other physics type stuff. :burnout:

[wesman]

I am a fan of the a$$-0-meter. I believe it is more accurate than a G-Tech for sure and depending on how it is calibrated can be downright reliable when determining acceleration and other physics type stuff. :burnout:

Indeed.....it's been calibrated within .0000001 of actual :D

Track data....:burnout:

Went 11.1's with 1.5 60' on 2.3L KB 18psi and a 60 shot at L-Fest
Went 10.8's with 1.7 60' on 2.6L KB 14-15 psi, no nitrous

I think we can all agree that conditions at TFC were not ideal.

I'll be finishing up a few fuel mods and getting it tuned soon, we'll see what it ends up making power wise.

I'm not here to argue Whipple vs KB. I chose KB for my reasons just as John chose Whipple for his. They are both bada$$ blowers and will make insane power and run good times. I don't think anyone chosing any of these blowers is making a bad decision, whether that's the KB 2.3, 2.6 or the Whipple.


--wes

[Ohmsby]

No denying the Vs. times from L fest to TFC but as stated the assometer is usually correct.

Wes's truck is going to go way fast W/ the right setup and good track conditions.


If I even sniff low 11's high 10's I will be happy and never mod my truck again:tex

[L-Fever]

No denying the Vs. times from L fest to TFC but as stated the assometer is usually correct.

Wes's truck is going to go way fast W/ the right setup and good track conditions.


If I even sniff low 11's high 10's I will be happy and never mod my truck again:tex

:rll::rll:

[Sixpipes]

Ahhhhhhhh, the old sniff test. I have failed every time I have taken it. http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/images/smilies/thumbup.gif

[Ohmsby]

Ahhhhhhhh, the old sniff test. I have failed every time I have taken it. http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/images/smilies/thumbup.gif

Using this method it allows me to run 11.9999 and still save face:D

[L8 APEX]

For Mark#2
The 2.6 takes air all the way from the back to the front of the rotors and then it dumps down through a plate to the intake. The 2.3 dump out the bottom of the case 3/4 way down the rotors via the triangle opening. Make sense?

[wesman]

No denying the Vs. times from L fest to TFC but as stated the assometer is usually correct.

Wes's truck is going to go way fast W/ the right setup and good track conditions.


If I even sniff low 11's high 10's I will be happy and never mod my truck again:tex


You sir are going to be one happy man.....sniff away:bows :burnout:

[L-Fever]

You sir are going to be one happy man.....sniff away:bows :burnout:

I think I will be keeping my back to the wall from now on!....:D

[Beaudee]

Hers one forsale on e-bay,its been there for a while.2.6K.B. with NOS.:eek: Love to take it for a test drive. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-F-150-Lightning-10-second-600-rwhp-2-6-Kenne-Bell-Nitrous-Lightning_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6219QQihZ001Q QitemZ110090569884QQrdZ1

[Ohmsby]

Hers one forsale on e-bay,its been there for a while.2.6K.B. with NOS.:eek: Love to take it for a test drive. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-F-150-Lightning-10-second-600-rwhp-2-6-Kenne-Bell-Nitrous-Lightning_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6219QQihZ001Q QitemZ110090569884QQrdZ1

I talked with that guy when I was buying a looking for a GenII in Dec. that thing has been poked more times than a prom date.