trailer brakes?

[slick-svt]

I still have the reciever hitch on my L and it has the regular 4 way flat plug and the other big round one next to it, is it already set up for pulling a trailer with brakes? Or do I have to have the brake set up inside the truck?
Thanks :)

[Chris94L]

You need a controller, and might have to install a relay but other than that it should be ready to go

[slick-svt]

Is that a big deal to put in? I just need it for about a week.

[PoorSvtman]

Is that a big deal to put in? I just need it for about a week.

if you dont have the wire harness that plugs in under the dash for the brake control i have one somewhere

[slick-svt]

I have a harness plug in the glove box came with the truck, could this be it?

[PoorSvtman]

I have a harness plug in the glove box came with the truck, could this be it?


more than likely

[slick-svt]

Yep that is it thats for reminding me I forgot that it was in there, so all I need is the controler?

[Cartel]

Should be all you need.

Not to hijack your thread but what kind of rise do yall use? Im pulling a small 4x8 uhaul next week and figured the L was too low. Iv got a 3/4 rise but im starting to think ill need at least a 2in?

[slick-svt]

I think mine is 3/4 rise and truck has 2 in drop shackles and it tows fine

[L8 APEX]

You have to add 2 fuses, two relays, and a controller and harness for the tow package. one relay and fuse is for trailer battery charge power. So you only have to have one of each for brakes.

[slick-svt]

I went today and checked out the set up, I know this sounds crazy but the guy said that the brakes work off the 4 way flat plug and you plug a controler in the lighter plug and adjust the gain from there? I said WTF? I have to get a 2 & 5/16 ball and I looked at all the trailers and they were the same. Sound weird??

[L8 APEX]

I have seen some boat trailers with a 5 way flat but they had hydraulic surge brakes and a reverse solenoid for backing up without engaging the brakes.
http://www.etrailer.com/faq/wiring.aspx
http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/dt/t1/20017_tn.jpg
One of these is needed to power the controller. It plugs right into the stock harness under the dash. You must have brake circuit input to work a controller. You can't just use a cig lighter plug for power.
http://store.towshop.com/store/more_info.asp?Product_ID=32&Category_ID=99
http://store.towshop.com/store/images/fordwireharness-_s.jpg

[slick-svt]

I think they called it a carousel brake, but it only used a 4 way flat. It was from the Home Depot rental stuff. I dont know maybe it didn't use brakes at all.

[L8 APEX]

Most rental trailers brakes are hydraulic surge self contained. Since most yokals don't have the electrics needed for temporary rental stuff. Surge systems have a resivour on the tongue and it looks huge and fugly.
http://centrevilletrailer.com/news-notices/images/1-surge-brake-actuator.jpg
http://centrevilletrailer.com/news-notices/surgebrake-troubleshootingtips.htm

[slick-svt]

You hit the nail on the head thats it, I was going to tow it with my L because my other is a 4.2 6-banger. Thanks for the info.

[L8 APEX]

If so then you don't need anything for brakes they are stand alone. Just trailer lights is all you need.

[slick-svt]

Cool thanks Terry, hope it'll stop with an rc-50 skid loader on it :confused:

[L8 APEX]

Their website says the machine is 6,200lbs with bucket and the trailer is likely 1,500 lbs itself. You are supposed to be weight distributing over 5000#'s. I would go slow and you may have to move the tractor around to take some weight off the tongue. I would be suprised if a rental place would let it out. When I rent them they even come out and look my F250 over and check GVWR on the door plate. Make sure you have 44psi in the F1's since they are essentially a heavy duty car tire they will be over their limits. Just watch the tongue weight and go slow or it will put you in a ditch. 7-8K lbs is a lot of energy behind you.

[Tex Arcana]

Their website says the machine is 6,200lbs with bucket and the trailer is likely 1,500 lbs itself. You are supposed to be weight distributing over 5000#'s. I would go slow and you may have to move the tractor around to take some weight off the tongue. I would be suprised if a rental place would let it out. When I rent them they even come out and look my F250 over and check GVWR on the door plate. Make sure you have 44psi in the F1's since they are essentially a heavy duty car tire they will be over their limits. Just watch the tongue weight and go slow or it will put you in a ditch. 7-8K lbs is a lot of energy behind you.

I yanked a Kubota backhoe/loader HD rental last summer without too much trouble, just needed the riser hitch; then again, I was going all of 2.5 miles. We also made sure to put the tractor back on the trailer a bit.

[slick-svt]

I plan to equalize the weight evenly, I wont be in any hurry going to rent it for seven days. Drivers these days just whip in front of ya and slam on the the brakes or do something stupid and your :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: out of luck