Hey Mikelemoine!

[L8 APEX]

What kind of commercial door lock is this?
http://images.craigslist.org/0115010102030104042007102238d55ee8aed56cc95100bb49 .jpg

[Chris94L]

What door lock?

[Silver_2000]

its a hotel door

[danielvalles1]

Not that i hang out at high schools or anything but i remember when i played baseball in high school we had a lock just like that in the guys locker room:icon_cool:

[wesman]

HRMM....I'm looking to replace all the locks in the new house....I'm waiting for the answer to this one http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/735411.gif.......I can order whenever :evil

--wes

[L8 APEX]

The most important part of a door lock is the jamb. Make sure to reinforce it with metal and use 3" long heavy deck screws for the strike plate. I like Schlage locks but they have been sticky and temperamental at times for me.
This company is supposed to be VERY secure. Only dealers can make copies of keys and they want two forms of ID and a registration card to service keys or locks. Medco is also a good brand of lock. I would stay away from the Kwiksets as they have cheap cast bolts and are super easy to pick and bump open.
http://www.mul-t-lock.com/198.html
I haven't seen a good website for Medco.
Decent article not great.
http://www.rd.com/content/openContent.do?contentId=17441
Here is a nice long strike plate
http://hardware.hardwarestore.com/29-437-strikeplates/heavy-gauge-deadbolt-strike-660678.aspx
Schlage has a good selection of locks they even have a keypad over key for frequent users. Wes can have a busy house from time to time...
http://consumer.schlage.com/

[03LightningRocks]

HRMM....I'm looking to replace all the locks in the new house....I'm waiting for the answer to this one http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/735411.gif.......I can order whenever :evil

--wes


I like that smiley almost as much as this one :gatling:.

Wait...I just got an idea.
Dance doder...
I SAID DANCE!
:gatling: ............................ .....http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/735411.gif

[L8 APEX]

Look for grade 1 though most will be grade 2.

[L8 APEX]

hey Wes, Kwikset has a 980S series that looks decent. It is grade 1 and has some anti picking features.. I doubt they carry it in stores though? It look like you have to order them online or from a locksmith.
http://www.kwikset.com/Products/default.aspx/Details/980SGrade1Deadbolt/

[03LightningRocks]

I get a hoot out of guys who put top grade locks on a door with an inferior frame/jam. The lock can be the best in the world, but if I can kick the door jam out, I don't need to break the lock.

[L8 APEX]

Yep a jamb is the most important part. When I build my house it will have a full steel frame. Or at least a full length piece of steel on the striking side.

[Moonshine]

Or at least a full length piece of steel on the striking side.

Say, that's a good idea. Now why didn't I think of that? :rolleyes:

Ron, whenever you want to wear your leg out come kick on my doors. :evil

[03LightningRocks]

Say, that's a good idea. Now why didn't I think of that? :rolleyes:

Ron, whenever you want to wear your leg out come kick on my doors. :evil

Can you post what you did to secure them...or is it information that would require my early demise? I need to do something to strengthen mine. I have a monitored security system, but would like to make it take a bit longer getting in.


EDIT: LOL...I just read your post again. I believe I have my answer.

[L8 APEX]

He did his at the time of construction. It would take a little remodeling on an existing structure.

[03LightningRocks]

He did his at the time of construction. It would take a little remodeling on an existing structure.

I was pretty sure that would be the case. The standard builder method of door frame installation is somewhat of a joke.

[Moonshine]

When I started kicking doors I was amazed at how easily you can force entry into a "well-built" home. I vowed that when I built a house mine wouldn't succumb so easily, and it won't. :D But it would be a major PITA to try and modify/strengthen an existing structure without completely rebuilding the entry.

[03LightningRocks]

About a year ago I locked myself out of the house. I was barefoot, had no cell phone, no shirt on and had a great dane puppy standing beside me waiting to get out of the 100 degree afternoon heat. It was 2:30 and at least 4 hours before my daughter would be getting home from work. With no way of calling for help and not willing to bask in the heat, I gave the door a drop kick right beside the lock. It flew open instantly. The jam just gave right up. I reinforced it the best I could when I repaired it, but I still have very little faith in the security of the doors should someone want to come in bad enough. I will definitely be doing the custom steel reinforcement when I have a home built.

[mikelemoine]

What kind of commercial door lock is this?
http://images.craigslist.org/0115010102030104042007102238d55ee8aed56cc95100bb49 .jpg Is there a lock in this pic, oh yeah thats a Saflok hotel lock, one of our competitors. They are decent quality, but I'm biased...

You are correct, the door frame will almost always give before a lock fails. Problem is most house door frames are 1" and the strike is held in my small wood screws. Very weak. If you are serious about reducing the chance of it being kicked in, you pretty much need to get a commercial door frame (steel) or reinforce the home frame with extended strikes (longer to spread the force over a wider part of the frame) and extra long screws (to dig into the 2x4 studs behind the frame).

Mul-T-Lock and Medeco are sister companies to my company (ASSA ABLOY Hospitality), both are pretty high end and mostly commercial. Best bet for home use is to get a good quality lock that is resistant to bump keys, then focus on the frame/jamb. After that, they'll have to bust a window to get in...:icon_mrgreen:

A simpler method is to allow wasps to build a nest over your front door. If anyone kicks it, they will piss the wasps off:gatling:

[L8 APEX]

Thank you for your professional insight Mike that is what I wanted to know! That damn lock bumping and shaved key crap annoys the hell out of me. My old HOA was suing the builder for weak jambs. They set the frames wrong and all that held the striker was the trim molding. Damn, why do i feel like I am floating...

[Silver_2000]

While you are modifying your doors and jambs

Make sure you replace your windows with 3" thick lexan in steel frames

Doug

[L8 APEX]

That's a good one Doug. I like Brian's old quote. "Whatever they steal from my house they will have to carry through a window." I guess it is a pretty good limiting factor on how fast or how much stuff they can steal. Remember bad guys go for the easy score. The harder you make it the better off you are.

[Moonshine]

While you are modifying your doors and jambs

Make sure you replace your windows with 3" thick lexan in steel frames

Doug

In my next house I want electric hurricane shutters. Those things are way cool. Push a button and it's like Battlestar Gallactica sealing up for battle.

[dboat]

In my next house I want electric hurricane shutters. Those things are way cool. Push a button and it's like Battlestar Gallactica sealing up for battle.

I agree with this one 1000%.. am thinking of doing this if I get a weekend retreat, but may do this on the full time house too.