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dboat
02-03-2008, 07:07 AM
I am always thinking about getting another Corvette (especially after going to the Auto Show last night)

So, if it was YOUR money, what would you do? Get a base Corvette and maybe throw a blower on it, get a Z06 Vette, or get the new ZR-1 Vette.. Remember, its your money... what would give you the best bang for your buck?

Also, when you vote, post up why you made the decision that you did.

Dana

tiffo60
02-03-2008, 08:50 AM
the ZR1 would be sweet to own but its 100k, you can get a Z06 for 68k, have the 427 and put a cam, Longtubes, some porting, and a tune and have the same power. :cool:




late edit: come to think about the ZR1 is stickered at 100k, so since its such a limited production the actuall cost maybe much much higher than that

L8 APEX
02-03-2008, 09:14 AM
zr1 is collectible but too much IMO. I would buy a used Z06 in the low 50's maybe one that has stuff on it already.

Silver_2000
02-03-2008, 09:30 AM
you can get a low mileage Z06 for under 40

And spend the rest of your money ( if you have any ) on go fast goodies
10 within 150 miles of you
http://www.cars.com/ (http://www.cars.com/go/search/search_results.jsp?ct=10&tracktype=usedcc&searchType=22&cid=&dlid=&dgid=&amid=&cname=&rd=&ddrd=30&zc=16501&makeid=9&modelid=86&pageNumber=&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE%20descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-z06%7CE-ALL%7CM-_9_%7CB-40000%7CH-%7CD-_86_%7CN-N%7CR-150%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE%20descending%7CQ-descending%7CX-popular%7CZ-16501&aff=national)

L8 APEX
02-03-2008, 09:48 AM
I was talking about the C6 Zo6 with the 427 engine.:tu: They are still in the 50-60's

GoldLS1
02-03-2008, 11:06 AM
I like plain vettes, but everyone and their brother has one. Even the Z06s aren't that rare around here. I think the ZR1 is overpriced and they should have went LS7 + turbo (LS3 + supercharger WTF?). Although, the sounds clips I have heard of the ZR1 are pretty beasty. But after owning a Lightning and a diesel, turbo's are the FI of my choosing. So in short Turbo Z06 FTW.

mustgofaster
02-03-2008, 11:09 AM
I'm not into the collectivity of the ZR1, so I'd get the Z06, add a good cam, exhaust & a power adder (as was mentioned already) and go smoke some ZR1 arse for a lot less $$$.
Just my .02 for what it's worth.

dboat
02-03-2008, 12:44 PM
I too was thinking of getting a low mileage C6 Z06.. there are a couple on Cars.com within 150 miles of me and they are both priced at $59k... one only has 3500 miles on it.. its silver too..

however, it you get a new base Vette and put a power adder on it.. get a few other body pieces and a few other things, I think you will easily be in Z06 or even ZR1 performance territory.. the base Vette has some other creature comforts the Z06 doesnt too..

But then again, it would only ever be a Vette and not a Z06 or a ZR1.. hmmm

Dana

slick-svt
02-03-2008, 12:48 PM
Put that money in my Gen 1 and buy another bow.......:tu:

WA 2 FST
02-03-2008, 03:28 PM
Once you modify anything, the collectability of it goes down the proverbial "chute".

I don't have $100+k to spend on a new car, so the ZR1 is out.

Now, if I had the 100+k to spend on either of the 3 choices, I'd get the ZR1. Who cares that GM didn't put a turbo on the 427. This is a 100% street-legal "race car" for all intents and purposes that puts out 620hp, and will hook up 0-60 in 3.0 seconds. That is nuts.

Go take a ride in a Lingenfelter 427 twin-turbo and you will understand why GM didn't go that route. It is a complete waste of power until you're going 100-110. It certainly cannot do 0-60 in 3+ seconds, even on 345mm wide drag radials. My 346 twin turbo will crush those cars to 100mph on the street.

Most likely the LS3+supercharger was deemed more durable as well. I digress, except to say there is a point of not only diminishing returns, but where you have just turned an incredibly capable car into a "dyno queen."

The C6 Z06 is just flat out a bargain. 505hp and mid-11 quarter mile stock (driving like grandma) for $66-68k...all with a warranty. That's tough to beat.

The C6 coupe with a power-adder will not have a warranty, unless you do something from a company like Lingenfelter...and even then you will no longer have the factory warranty on the engine/driveline. However, a twin-turbo package from LPE will most likely be faster than the Z06 or the ZR1 for less $$ (certainly less than the ZR1). Not to mention, insurance will be less, and you'll truly have a "wolf in sheeps clothing."

You couldn't go wrong with any of these choices. If you want to buy something that gets lot of looks and has a corner on the market of exclusivity, then don't even look at a Corvette. You want a Viper, a Porsche or a Ferrari.

I'm not in the market to make this type of decision at this time... I'm holding on to what I've got. Just did two 30-95mph punches on the way home from church today. I swear that takes all of 3 seconds per shot...the thing actually hooks up really well from a 2nd gear roll-on with temps above 60^F.

<---smiling from ear-to-ear

Moonshine
02-03-2008, 08:29 PM
Kinda' depends on whether or not you want to modify. If you've already decided to modify I'd go with a base C6 and add as much HP as you want. I got to drive a C6 Z06 and was impressed with the balance of power and handling from the factory. It struck me as being a very well balanced package from the get-go.

ZeusSVT
02-03-2008, 08:45 PM
I would have to say Z06. I love the look and the work put into the new ZR1 but I don't beleve I could ever see my self paying that much for a corvette. There are way too many almost new Z06's on the market to drop that kind of money on a car that doesnt really have that much exclusivity compared to other sports cars in its class. Kudos to chevy and those that don't have a problem dropping the money, but i'd say the Z06 is the bang for the buck at this time. :tu:

-Michael

WA 2 FST
02-03-2008, 11:16 PM
For $100k... what else can you buy that is remotely close to the ZR1 in showroom performance? Answer... nothing. Actually, you'll have to spend 2x that to approach the performance of this car with a factory warranty.

I guess let's wait and see what it actually runs on the track (drag, road course, and top-speed).

ZeusSVT
02-03-2008, 11:21 PM
I guess let's wait and see what it actually runs on the track (drag, road course, and top-speed).

A month or so and we should know, should be interesting.....:rolleyes:

03'svtlight
02-03-2008, 11:39 PM
here's an 03' ZO6 w/50k miles . Very clean theft recovery. Buy the car for $20k and spend $20k in mods.:cool:

99WhiteBeast
02-04-2008, 07:18 PM
If I had a base vette I don't know that I would add much to it. Maybe an exhaust kit but that's about it.

dboat
02-04-2008, 09:54 PM
If I had a base vette I don't know that I would add much to it. Maybe an exhaust kit but that's about it.

You havent been exposed to the dark side... there is so much stuff out there for them its not even funny..

Dana

David N
02-05-2008, 09:08 AM
just skip the vette and get a Viper....:evil:icon_mrgreen:

99WhiteBeast
02-05-2008, 09:00 PM
You havent been exposed to the dark side... there is so much stuff out there for them its not even funny..

Dana

I understand but it isn't cheap either. I've driven three different C6's (auto-stock, stick-stock, stick-lightly modified) and was thoroughly impressed with them all.

360hp to 400hp in a vette is just ridiculous in a good way. Its all about HP to weight ratio:cool::tu:

Lyfisin
02-07-2008, 11:16 PM
I'm really not planning on modding mine, but if I did, I'd want a stealthy one. That way anyone thinking they were going up against a base corvette would get a big surprise. :icon_mrgreen:

Mika
02-08-2008, 12:07 AM
If you can swing the price tag on the Z06, I say go for it. You won't find a better performance bargain with a warranty. Mika

WA 2 FST
02-11-2008, 05:12 PM
I'm really not planning on modding mine, but if I did, I'd want a stealthy one. That way anyone thinking they were going up against a base corvette would get a big surprise. :icon_mrgreen:

Twin-turbos are your friend. :icon_wink:

BC Lightning
02-11-2008, 10:32 PM
Twin-turbos are your friend. :icon_wink:

I know a buddy that was planning on putting a procharger on his C6 Z06 and could be talked out of it if some of you C6 vette guys want it :tu:

I voted for the ZR1 just because I like having things nobody else has, yeah I could buy a C6 Z06 and dump another $50,000 into the car and make it way more powerful than the ZR1, but with a limit of 2,000 total, that ZR1 will definately go up in value after a few years, espically when the number of them on the road keeps falling from owners wreckin them

Beaudee
02-11-2008, 11:40 PM
For the money they want for the hot Vetts now i would go Exotic Dana.:cool: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-Ferrari-360-Modena-F1-CD-No-Reserve-Auction_W0QQitemZ270210240961QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem270210240961

BC Lightning
02-11-2008, 11:45 PM
For the money they want for the hot Vetts now i would go Exotic Dana.:cool: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-Ferrari-360-Modena-F1-CD-No-Reserve-Auction_W0QQitemZ270210240961QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem270210240961

That car is 8 years old, to get a newer Ferrari 2005+ would still cost $100,000+ I'd rather have a more powerful, better handeling American made Corvette :tu:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-360-Spider-360-Spider-F1-Warranty-Flawless-Belts-Done-NO-TAX_W0QQitemZ230221234476QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 30221234476

WA 2 FST
02-11-2008, 11:46 PM
That's a pretty car, but I'm sorry... I would not pay near $100k for something that does not have a warranty and literally costs $1k for a tune up (yes, that is correct).

I've said it plenty of times. You don't buy a Corvette so you can be the only one to have one (although I'm sure a lot of people do...they are just mistaken). You buy one for performance. Even if there are plenty of them around, they still look good, and they are at the top of performance for the $$ if you want a 2-seat sports car.

Either of the 3 options is great, IMHO.

I know that if I get a nice raise :icon_wink: in the next year or two, I would have to seriously consider a new 550hp CTS-V. For $62-65k, that is tough to beat as well.

Uh, Ford... are you still sleeping?

Beaudee
02-12-2008, 08:49 AM
I just always liked the Ferrari,Nice Spyder BTW Mike.A nice exotic can be found for the same $ as a new hot Vett.Deff. turn more heads.What was that car in the commercial during the super bowl :bows.

BC Lightning
02-12-2008, 10:20 AM
I just always liked the Ferrari,Nice Spyder BTW Mike.A nice exotic can be found for the same $ as a new hot Vett.Deff. turn more heads.What was that car in the commercial during the super bowl :bows.

The new Audi, that thing looked mean as hell :evil

Beaudee
02-12-2008, 10:34 AM
The new Audi, that thing looked mean as hell :evil

Is a cool looking car. http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1300595935&vw=g&b=0&pos=11&p=audi+2008+r8&fr=yfp-t-304 http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1300595935&vw=g&b=0&pos=11&p=audi+2008+r8&fr=yfp-t-304 http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1300595935&vw=g&b=0&pos=11&p=audi+2008+r8&fr=yfp-t-304

Beaudee
02-12-2008, 10:44 AM
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1300595935&vw=g&b=0&pos=11&p=audi+2008+r8&fr=yfp-t-304:rolleyes: Sorry for jacking your thread Dana,but something to look @ before you drop so much $. Heck i dont know you insert these y-toube links but heres a better one on the car. K--YrNIvkkA

Beaudee
02-12-2008, 11:15 AM
Im probally gona get hammered for throwing these cars in a vette thread.The prices are double what you get with a vett as far as H.P. style etc..I always say go big or go home.:icon_mrgreen:

Silver_2000
02-12-2008, 12:56 PM
the you tube button only works for you tube videos
doesn't work for yahoo videos

Just click the you tube button and paste the last part of the url between the you tube tags

in the example above its K--YrNIvkkA


paste that between the you tube tags

WA 2 FST
02-12-2008, 02:23 PM
Yeah, that R8 is an awesome machine. I assume its ~$100k?

Lyfisin
02-13-2008, 05:19 AM
Twin-turbos are your friend. :icon_wink:

I believe it. And 'if' I ever did anything, that would be the route I would take. :burnout:

gbgary
02-13-2008, 10:12 AM
I just always liked the Ferrari,Nice Spyder BTW Mike.A nice exotic can be found for the same $ as a new hot Vett.Deff. turn more heads.What was that car in the commercial during the super bowl :bows.


maintainence on an exotic will kill you. vettes are the best bang-for-the-buck performance car around. prices are cheap, they're tougher, with relatively inexpensive parts/service compared to exotics.

dboat
02-14-2008, 10:34 AM
Being a Ferrari F1 fan, I would love to own one. (hmm, wonder if they would exchange my left testicle for one, since I am beyond child bearing age:evil)

but as in the second Ferrari ebay post, I think the maintenance alone without anything extra would eat my lunch.. whereas the Vette is going to be a lot more affordable,, I am not saying cheap, but more affordable. I was in Florida yesterday and was driving by a car lot and saw a 2005 base Vette for under $20k. You could put another 20 into it and have a personalized monster, but I think I would prefer the Z06. I am going to wait another year to see how much the prices drop.. I think they will continue to drop for another year or two as more of them hit the market and it becomes saturated.. then the market will bottom out and stabilize.. the markets for Ferraris never seem to go down or bottom out though..

Dana

BC Lightning
02-14-2008, 10:43 AM
Being a Ferrari F1 fan, I would love to own one. (hmm, wonder if they would exchange my left testicle for one, since I am beyond child bearing age:evil)

but as in the second Ferrari ebay post, I think the maintenance alone without anything extra would eat my lunch.. whereas the Vette is going to be a lot more affordable,, I am not saying cheap, but more affordable. I was in Florida yesterday and was driving by a car lot and saw a 2005 base Vette for under $20k. You could put another 20 into it and have a personalized monster, but I think I would prefer the Z06. I am going to wait another year to see how much the prices drop.. I think they will continue to drop for another year or two as more of them hit the market and it becomes saturated.. then the market will bottom out and stabilize.. the markets for Ferraris never seem to go down or bottom out though..

Dana

I read articles all of the time about 60+ year old men and women having kids, just food for thought

I have seen C6 Z06's go for around $45,000, my buddy got his silver C6 Z06 around that price, when he picked it up from the original owner, the car had never been WOT

dboat
02-14-2008, 10:47 AM
I read articles all of the time about 60+ year old men and women having kids, just food for thought

I have seen C6 Z06's go for around $45,000, my buddy got his silver C6 Z06 around that price, when he picked it up from the original owner, the car had never been WOT

Thats what I am talking about.. just wait a year and I am thinking under 40k.

Dana

BC Lightning
02-14-2008, 10:52 AM
Thats what I am talking about.. just wait a year and I am thinking under 40k.

Dana

I'm guessing that a “pretty clean" Z06 will hit $40,000 and plateau, but that is still a very good price for that car especially since they started out around $80,000

dboat
02-14-2008, 10:54 AM
I'm guessing that a “pretty clean" Z06 will hit $40,000 and plateau, but that is still a very good price for that car especially since they started out around $80,000



Yep, but I am thinking under 40k with the state of the economy and all..

Beaudee
02-14-2008, 11:06 AM
Being a Ferrari F1 fan, I would love to own one. (hmm, wonder if they would exchange my left testicle for one, since I am beyond child bearing age:evil)

but as in the second Ferrari ebay post, I think the maintenance alone without anything extra would eat my lunch.. whereas the Vette is going to be a lot more affordable,, I am not saying cheap, but more affordable. I was in Florida yesterday and was driving by a car lot and saw a 2005 base Vette for under $20k. You could put another 20 into it and have a personalized monster, but I think I would prefer the Z06. I am going to wait another year to see how much the prices drop.. I think they will continue to drop for another year or two as more of them hit the market and it becomes saturated.. then the market will bottom out and stabilize.. the markets for Ferraris never seem to go down or bottom out though..

Dana You would be suprised what a human can do to save a buck:evilOwning an exotic would deff. make you learn the maintenance fast.You would have to learn it from the top down,but what else are toys for.Besides ZO6's dont float mg275_wWQp0 What a tow truck driver :hammer: Vett is deff. more bang for the buck,sure like that Ferrari logo though.

dboat
02-14-2008, 03:30 PM
I love that Ferrari logo too.. I was willing to give a precious body part but not the money. :evil
I dont know that I would ever trust myself to work on a car worth that much either, besides washing and waxing.

If that had been my Z06, I think I would have been crying.. dang..

Dana

Lyfisin
02-26-2008, 08:08 AM
Twin-turbos are your friend. :icon_wink:

Nothing like doubling the cost of your car. 725 HP though. Wow!

http://www.lingenfelter.com/C6LS2Lingenfelter427CIDTwinTurbo725HP.htm

WA 2 FST
02-26-2008, 09:15 AM
Yeah, that's crazy HP.

However, in my honest opinion (and this is not b/c I don't have a 427), unless you are going to bolt slicks to that thing and drag race at the track on a consistent basis, there is just no need for it.

Get the 366 cube version, and if you want to make a little more power, add a boost controller.

I will race any of the 427 cars on the street to 110mph and will beat them every time. I've ridden in two of them. They will spin the tires in 3rd gear, lugging the motor at ~3000rpm. So traction is completely non-existent, even with drag radials on good concrete. Now, top-end they are crazy fast.

BC Lightning
02-26-2008, 11:09 AM
Yeah, that's crazy HP.


I will race any of the 427 cars on the street to 110mph and will beat them every time. I've ridden in two of them. They will spin the tires in 3rd gear, lugging the motor at ~3000rpm. So traction is completely non-existent, even with drag radials on good concrete. Now, top-end they are crazy fast.

I remember reading a thread a guy posted about his Lingenfelter 427 TT C5 Z06 and said it pulled harder from 150 - 200mph+ than 80 - 150mph

WA 2 FST
02-26-2008, 11:21 AM
Yeah, there's no doubt about that. It's a traction issue. There was one LPE 427 TT car that ran high-8s @ 150+mph (on slicks), but this isn't the regular 427 TT, either. That car made over 1000rwhp. It belonged to a guy in Dallas, too. Not sure how you could ever really drive that thing aggressively on the street.

Honestly, my car at 615rwhp/600rwtq feels faster once you get deeper into 3rd gear (~85-90). With my G-tech it says 0-60 in 3.48 seconds, but the fun is just getting started past that. LOL I've never had it over 165, and probably never will but I believe LPE when they say the car will do 200.

I'm sure the 427 cars will do well over that, if they could stay on the ground.