Pain at the Pump.

[L8 APEX]

My butt is lighter this week. I filled up the Lightning Sunday night at $72 bucks. Tonight I had to fill up the F250 $145 bucks. The L is averaging 12-13 mpg and the F250 is closer to 15mpg. Another $217 dollar fuel bill for this week:icon_eek:. I may need to get me a Fukus in a hurry... I feel like I get a speeding ticket every time I fill up:tex

[my2002lightning]

It's only money. :tex:cool:

[Wht95Lightning]

$100 a barrel for crude. :crying:

[ZeusSVT]

$100 a barrel for crude. :crying:

Yeah I noticed prices were going up yesterday again too when I filled up. It hasn't cost me over 70 in a few weeks, and I hit 70 yesterday.

All so these sons of b!*ches can have crazy stuff like this built over seas.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4249163.html

[slick-svt]

I am also looking to buy a focus in the future, (an svt ).....:tu:

[dboat]

Yeah I noticed prices were going up yesterday again too when I filled up. It hasn't cost me over 70 in a few weeks, and I hit 70 yesterday.

All so these sons of b!*ches can have crazy stuff like this built over seas.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4249163.html

its projected that Dubai will run out of oil in the ground around 2016. So they are positioning themselves now to be the number one vacation spot in the world. So the money they are making now is being invested in projects like this and the man made islands to be able to provide jobs and income in the future. They are not like the other Arab states around them..

[GoldLS1]

My butt is lighter this week. I filled up the Lightning Sunday night at $72 bucks. Tonight I had to fill up the F250 $145 bucks. The L is averaging 12-13 mpg and the F250 is closer to 15mpg. Another $217 dollar fuel bill for this week:icon_eek:. I may need to get me a Fukus in a hurry... I feel like I get a speeding ticket every time I fill up:tex

I fill ya Terry.... altho the dodge is only running me around $110 to fill up and the SS is only around $45!! It still sucks. I would have thought your F250 would get better than 15??

[Sandman]

its projected that Dubai will run out of oil in the ground around 2016. So they are positioning themselves now to be the number one vacation spot in the world. So the money they are making now is being invested in projects like this and the man made islands to be able to provide jobs and income in the future. They are not like the other Arab states around them..

Article on what you can expect.

http://www.dubai-architecture.info/DUB-GAL1.htm

[dboat]

Article on what you can expect.

http://www.dubai-architecture.info/DUB-GAL1.htm

Sandman, thanks.. the article ended with "what is going on over there".. one word... capitalism..

Dana

they are also getting a Formula One race too that will race around the marina.

Nice..

[ZeusSVT]

Article on what you can expect.

http://www.dubai-architecture.info/DUB-GAL1.htm


Yeah its a pretty impressive place. Stayed at the Ritz Carlton there a couple of years ago. Definitely a place I will go again.

[Beaudee]

Gettin freakin rediculous @ the pump.GxPOju00YRQ Get ready for the thieving folks.

[dboat]

:rll::rll::rll:

next mod for the L..


Dana

[L8 APEX]

Holy inflation Batman! It is 3.45 today at the truck stop! It was 3.14 a few weeks ago.

[TXLIGHTNING]

Holy inflation Batman! It is 3.45 today at the truck stop! It was 3.14 a few weeks ago. Damn prices keep going up and down weekly :flaming:

[dboat]

Damn prices keep going up and down weekly :flaming:


and not just by a few cents. :throw:

[L8 APEX]

Yeah my pay damn sure doesn't change with the price of fuel:flaming:. I need to move some vehicles for a customer and at 3.50 a gallon it is an expensive task.

[Wht95Lightning]

$3.15 per gallon for the CHEAP stuff. :Bullshit

[L8 APEX]

Diesel jumped to 3.69 at the truck stop! That is the cheapest you will find it in Dallas:icon_eek:.

[GoldLS1]

Diesel jumped to 3.69 at the truck stop! That is the cheapest you will find it in Dallas:icon_eek:.

I paid 3.80 today at a place in Coppell where they mark that shit WAY UP. Still its getting up there. WTF!?!?! Might have to start driving the SS. BULLSHIT.

[L8 APEX]

Another 6 cents in 18 hours. 3.75 a gallon at Flying J... I think I am about ready for that Focus. I wonder if all the small cars are going to start price gouging the used market?

http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm?state=TX

[L8 APEX]

Well as of this morning it is 3.77 another two cents in a few hours. Those bastards! I am going to wait until it hits 4 bucks a gallon and go to the dealer and trade it for a new diesel and get about twenty grand off:evil

[Ohmsby]

saw diesel in west Texas for $3.90 should be interesting to see the fallout

[dboat]

saw diesel in west Texas for $3.90 should be interesting to see the fallout

yep, but in W Tx. they are all running that red diesel in their trucks..

[Nuhklz]

40mpg and $18 for a fill-up with premium :icon_mrgreen:

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_1228.jpg

[L8 APEX]

I use to ride bikes but todays big city is to great a risk IMO. People are grade A stupid with the distractions of driving like phones, texting, Smart phones etc. I loved my sport bikes for only 10 grand you could buy a low ten second 45mpg road warrior.

[Beaudee]

4 bucks a gallon isnt a fear anymore,its already fact in some states.Gettin disgusting to fill up the L. anymore.Cant sell it,who can afford one as a daily driver.Wonder where i can leave it with the keys in it to make it dissappear.:rll::rll:

[dboat]

4 bucks a gallon isnt a fear anymore,its already fact in some states.Gettin disgusting to fill up the L. anymore.Cant sell it,who can afford one as a daily driver.Wonder where i can leave it with the keys in it to make it dissappear.:rll::rll:

I'll take it off of your hands real cheap.. :evil

[Beaudee]

Naaah,i be driven her if gas is 6 bucks a gallon.Wife took kid to school in the fog this mornin,Stealth DSG,Kooks Long tubes,Terry Enhanced,Magnaflow 15714 and 24 inch X 4 inch dia. chrome plated stainless tips,fog lights,makes her all worth it.Havent heard a better soundin,lookin L. yet:cool:Looks like back to overtime to pay for fuel,alcohol,and smokes in that order.

[98Cobra]

I have noticed that prices for a used SVT Focus have definately levelled off as of late...

[Beaudee]

I have noticed that prices for a used SVT Focus have definately levelled off as of late...

I have a gentleman who has a black one for sale.Only 42K i think.Not sure what year,04 i believe.Adult driven,no mods..I think he wants 10K.Very clean.P.M. me if interested.

[L8 APEX]

The problem is as I remember the SVT Focus got bad mileage in general.

[wesman]

The problem is as I remember the SVT Focus got bad mileage in general.

For a little car it's not too great.....21/28 is what it was rated at.

Hell, the wifes 7 series gets 20mpg in mix of city/hwy driving and it's a V8

--wes

[98Cobra]

The problem is as I remember the SVT Focus got bad mileage in general.

I think it depends on what you consider bad mileage. I think 20s for something small with decent HP is not bad. An 08 Civic Si isnt really any better.

[FRDRCING]

Holy inflation Batman! It is 3.45 today at the truck stop! It was 3.14 a few weeks ago.

It was $3.35 a week ago when I did not need gas. Stopped by QT to fill up today on the way home and saw the $3.45 :eek2:. I still remember the prices being around $1.50 or so when I started driving 12 years ago.

[wesman]

It was $3.35 a week ago when I did not need gas. Stopped by QT to fill up today on the way home and saw the $3.45 :eek2:. I still remember the prices being around $1.50 or so when I started driving 12 years ago.

The Shell station across the street right off of Stemmons Fwy/35 premium is $3.89 a gallon :eek::eek:


--wes

[FRDRCING]

The Shell station across the street right off of Stemmons Fwy/35 premium is $3.89 a gallon :eek::eek:


--wes

Wes

:eek:

[L8 APEX]

I am not going to roll a Fucus for 20mpg. Ehtan had one for 4 years I think it averaged high teens. A regular fucus will do 30 and the 08's are rated for 35mpg. Fuel economy has to be in the 30's for me to accept a little car. Otherwise my diesel gets 15mpg and a new half ton GM truck will get 17-21.

[TXLIGHTNING]

Fuel economy has to be in the 30's for me to accept a little car. :rll:It's hard for me to picture you in a small compact Terry http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/images/smilies/3gears.gif

[L8 APEX]

Diesel is 3.81 today at the truck stop. It is 10-20 cents higher everywhere else. I thought about a Toyota truck but they don't get 17-20 either. Like I said unless I am doubling my MPG it is not worth the change to me. In the Lightning the increase is only 4-5 bucks a fill up, but the diesel is getting to be 20-30 bucks more each time. It is hard to justify the upkeep of another vehicle to save a fist full of dollars. Biatch!

It comes down to miles driven as to where the payback is. 80% of my driving is recreational and I use a truck to haul the ATV, trailer and stuff so I car would sit parked most of that time.
http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/26/MPW-13112

[Silver_2000]

Fuel economy has to be in the 30's for me to accept a little car. Otherwise my diesel gets 15mpg and a new half ton GM truck will get 17-21.

My Relatively big car with 300hp gets 22 all day long and will get 26+ on the highway

[Beaudee]

I work with several guys driven a 08 Toyota Yaris.14K out the door brand new tx ttl. and liscense.They are the cheapest,best fuel economy,most head/leg room for the buck these days.http://www.toyota.com/yaris/photo-gallery.html I was told they get 380 miles a tank and 25 bucks to fill up.I was impressed with the looks/value of the car.Most of my buds who get these drive ford powerstroke diesels.The savings in fuel pay for the car and then some.I am seriously considering one for a daily driver.Must be 20 of em in the lot @ work.

[L8 APEX]

Luckily my weekday commute is a short one about 8 miles each way. The Lightning is getting a consistent 12.5-12.8mpg so it still costs more to fuel than the diesel due to the lower MPG's. But it is a ton of fun. It is a shiny silver machine. I changed the original plugs yesterday and threw a new fuel filter in it. The filter was full of minute sediment. I will be buying gas from a different station and see if it clears up. The L fits in the garage so I sleep much better with all the crime these days.

[Mark #2]

Do the math, how many years does it take to pay back an increase of 15-20 MPG versus the cost of a new/used car?

~10 years for the K5, but YMMV.:icon_mrgreen:

[Beaudee]

Luckily my weekday commute is a short one about 8 miles each way. The Lightning is getting a consistent 12.5-12.8mpg so it still costs more to fuel than the diesel due to the lower MPG's. But it is a ton of fun. It is a shiny silver machine. I changed the original plugs yesterday and threw a new fuel filter in it. The filter was full of minute sediment. I will be buying gas from a different station and see if it clears up. The L fits in the garage so I sleep much better with all the crime these days.

The fill up too often with super unleaded and american gas gouging butt wipes takes all the fun out of driven the L..Always feel like i just got ripped @ every fill-up.:bs

[L8 APEX]

Do the math, how many years does it take to pay back an increase of 15-20 MPG versus the cost of a new/used car?

~10 years for the K5, but YMMV.:icon_mrgreen:
You are right Mark. I would say that if it keeps going up and you run high miles then it may make more sense. Esp if you are trading what you already have and not incurring a lot more debt. I know when I was driving 50K per year fuel savings and economy were very significant. I had an annual fuel bill around eight thousand dollars. A more efficient vehicle would have done the same miles for about 3 grand. A savings of 5 grand a year adds up quickly.

[dboat]

Do the math, how many years does it take to pay back an increase of 15-20 MPG versus the cost of a new/used car?

~10 years for the K5, but YMMV.:icon_mrgreen:

I went through this with the wife recently and she came to realize the breakeven point was 10 years, since she doesnt drive that much..

Doug, there is a very old thread on this where you did the math ... to show the real difference..

Dana

[Silver_2000]

I drove to Kennedale and back tonight
about 40 miles each way

Best MPG so far
15 gallons to fill up over 360 miles per tank ( over 400 at highway mileage )
the computer has been within a tenth every time I checked it

[Beaudee]

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dsign%2Bof%2Bthe%2Btimes%26y%3 DSearch%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26ei%3Dutf-8%26js%3D1%26x%3Dwrt&w=348&h=500&imgurl=static.flickr.com%2F1200%2F562729953_d43def cdf0.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fladybu g1016%2F562729953%2F&size=162.1kB&name=Sign%20of%20the%20Times&p=sign%20of%20the%20times&type=JPG&oid=932c51599460565c&fusr=Ladybug1016&tit=Sign%20of%20the%20Times&hurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/ladybug1016/&no=11&tt=44667 :eek: Bout sums it up.Between Every fill up seems to increase 10 cents a gallon

[Beaudee]

I drove to Kennedale and back tonight
about 40 miles each way

Best MPG so far
15 gallons to fill up over 360 miles per tank ( over 400 at highway mileage )
the computer has been within a tenth every time I checked it

Shame that car wont do whats the max on the speedometer.:icon_mrgreen:On a serious note what will it do.My GTO says 200 and she got loose after 140.Suppose to do 180.I didnt have it in me to go any faster,highway was rugged.2 things Texans cant do right,build highways and home foundations.

[99bolt]

Jetta Tdi, 40 plus average mpgs, 50 plus on the highway. My oneway commute is 450 miles, been looking at these for for a traveling vehicle.

[GoldLS1]

$3.99/gal.

[Silver_2000]

Shame that car wont do whats the max on the speedometer.:icon_mrgreen:On a serious note what will it do.My GTO says 200 and she got loose after 140.Suppose to do 180.I didnt have it in me to go any faster,highway was rugged.2 things Texans cant do right,build highways and home foundations.

it loves the highway

I havent had it over 110 yet
Some evening I plan to take it down to George Bush to test it out

[L8 APEX]

Flying J went DOWN two cents to 3.87 today:tex

[03LightningRocks]

My 250 is almost sitting on empty and every time I think about filling it up I get pissed off. Maybe it's time to buy a daily driver that won't cost me a months mortgage payment with each fill up. Almost 4 bucks a gallon is B.S.!!!!

I have been wanting a Harley for a couple years now. I bet I could cover the payment in what I save on gas....at least during the warm months.

[wesman]

My 250 is almost sitting on empty and every time I think about filling it up I get pissed off. Maybe it's time to buy a daily driver that won't cost me a months mortgage payment with each fill up. Almost 4 bucks a gallon is B.S.!!!!

I have been wanting a Harley for a couple years now. I bet I could cover the payment in what I save on gas....at least during the warm months.

Heck, I can't imagine diesel fill ups.

I filled up the wifes BMW on Wed and tried to top off the Viper and it was $100.00 and the Viper wasn't even over 3/4 tank.

I filled up the Srt-10 yesterday and topped off the wifes BMW and it was $100.00 again.

I had to stop at $100.00 because that's when the pump stops.

I apparently should have gone into the oil business when I grew up instead of the dang telecom business.

--wes

[wesman]

May drop the Viper and the L and get this....who cares how much gas is :evil:evil

http://www.gtrnissan.com/?Site=nissanusa&Area=GT-R_Home

--wes

[TXLIGHTNING]

May drop the Viper and the L and get this....who cares how much gas is :evil:evil

http://www.gtrnissan.com/?Site=nissanusa&Area=GT-R_Home

--wes 480hp 430tq, 193MPH top speed. Not bad at all.

[wesman]

480hp 430tq, 193MPH top speed. Not bad at all.

Edmunds just tested one in Cali, ran an 11.4@120 spinning all four out of the hole.

Imagine upping the boost via a boost controller for 3-4 more PSI ;)

--wes

[TXLIGHTNING]

Edmunds just tested one in Cali, ran an 11.4@120 spinning all four out of the whole.

Imagine upping the boost via a boost controller for 3-4 more PSI ;)

--wes Very nice :bows BTW: What is MSRP?

[03LightningRocks]

May drop the Viper and the L and get this....who cares how much gas is :evil:evil

http://www.gtrnissan.com/?Site=nissanusa&Area=GT-R_Home

--wes


I actually like the way that car looks.:eek: Typically I am anti-rice, but the American car companies haven't come out with a car I really go nuts over since 1967...LOL. As far as the milage goes, that wouldn't really be a problem with this car. I could get to my destinations quicker, which would mean the engine runs less time...which would translate into using less gas.:tex

[GoldLS1]

May drop the Viper and the L and get this....who cares how much gas is :evil:evil

http://www.gtrnissan.com/?Site=nissanusa&Area=GT-R_Home

--wes

Guy up at work has been looking into those... they are taking orders at the the big nissan place (I forget the name). They are getting a few where as the small dealerships aren't getting but 1 or 2. $5000 just to be put on the list and they are going to auction the first few they get in to the highest bidder (I think it was the first 2 or 3 shipments; around a dozen will be auctioned off to the rich). Then it'll go in order on that you put on the list. Least thats what he told me....

[03LightningRocks]

Guy up at work has been looking into those... they are taking orders at the the big nissan place (I forget the name). They are getting a few where as the small dealerships aren't getting but 1 or 2. $5000 just to be put on the list and they are going to auction the first few they get in to the highest bidder (I think it was the first 2 or 3 shipments; around a dozen will be auctioned off to the rich). Then it'll go in order on that you put on the list. Least thats what he told me....


Maybe I'll just wait it out...:cool:.

[mikelemoine]

Got my Amex statement and had $486 in fuel over the last 30 days. I think I could buy a compact car and fuel it for alot less. Tempting but just can't see trolling down 635 in a small car and getting run over by some soccer mom in an Expy yapping on her cell phone.

Might have to start male stripping on the weekends to pay for my fuel habit.:vomit:My six pack looks more like a keg.....

[Beaudee]

I saw on the news last night a barrel of oil is gona hit 200 bucks this year.Right now its 122 bucks and we are paying 3.75 for super 4.20 for diesel.200 bucks a barrel ought to double this.Btwn the new prisidential candidates and fuel we are doomed.:icon_eek:

[Beaudee]

Car insurance rates are doubling,utility rates are up,groceries are up,went to the pool store for chemicals and my god worse than filling up @ the pump..Seems everyone has there hands in the cookie jar.I just wonder when the ecconomy is gona have a blow-out.Chrysler is giving 2.99 a gal. gas cards for the purchase of new vehichles.:tex

[toddwarren]

If your car insurance rates are doubling you either have had a wreck or two, speeding tickets or bought after your credit score went in the crapper!!
I sell insurance and if you have good credit and a clean slate there is no good reason you are paying expensive auto rates! well maybe your young like my son then your screwed!

Now gas is threw the roof, medical costs through the roof ,heck groceries!!

What we need is to elect someone for president that comes in and raises all our taxes now:icon_eek: That would be the perfect storm for depression:crying:

[Beaudee]

If your car insurance rates are doubling you either have had a wreck or two, speeding tickets or bought after your credit score went in the crapper!!
I sell insurance and if you have good credit and a clean slate there is no good reason you are paying expensive auto rates! well maybe your young like my son then your screwed!

Now gas is threw the roof, medical costs through the roof ,heck groceries!!

What we need is to elect someone for president that comes in and raises all our taxes now:icon_eek: That would be the perfect storm for depression:crying:

It was in the news,and it was 3 states that doubled.Personally mine didnt double.Who can afford insurance and pay over 4 bucks a gallon for gas.Gas is the power of everything in rising costs.:vomit:Talon members get an Insurance discount?

[toddwarren]

Unfortunately I dont have any companies that recognize the greatness
of Talon yet! If you call me I can get some info and shop around for you
no obligation of course!

972-473-4600 #104

[Beaudee]

Unfortunately I dont have any companies that recognize the greatness
of Talon yet! If you call me I can get some info and shop around for you
no obligation of course!

972-473-4600 #104
I' ll stick with State farm.They replaced 2 wrecked cars,and fixed a foundation/slab leak for me and have always been good .Been with em over 20 years.When my daughter starts driven thats another story:eek:.Nice to meet you @ the track Todd:tu:

[SILVER2000SVT]

It was in the news,and it was 3 states that doubled.Personally mine didnt double.Who can afford insurance and pay over 4 bucks a gallon for gas.Gas is the power of everything in rising costs.:vomit:Talon members get an Insurance discount?

Those states where the prices have recently doubled are now more in line with the rest of the states. They should be thankful they have enjoyed abnormally low prices until now.

[tiffo60]

some food for thought


http://jval2k4.blogspot.com/2008/05/things-you-should-know-about-oil.html

[dboat]

some food for thought


http://jval2k4.blogspot.com/2008/05/things-you-should-know-about-oil.html

well written..

[Beaudee]

some food for thought


http://jval2k4.blogspot.com/2008/05/things-you-should-know-about-oil.html

Its official 4 bucks a gallon for super.I filled up today and the pump stops @ 75 bucks before the L. IS FULL.Half to swipe my card 2 times to fill up or get the attendant to O.K. more than 75 bucks:vomit:.I saw diesel for 4.55 @ a shell on Harry Hines:eek2:Im dumping all my airline stock.Airlines are gona take hard .Very depressing:confused:

[L8 APEX]

I saw premium for 4.49 Sunday. It is like driving around on race gas. I remember when some folks griped about me selling GT104 for 5.50 a gallon..

[Ohmsby]

I had a long day yesterday Drove from Denton to Llano then over to Mexia back to Hillsboro and then to Las Colinas for a late afternoon meeting and then back to the Crossroads Casa

Spent $154.00 in fuel what a Monday:eek:

Averaging fuel bills for my truck in the $700-$900 per month and with days like yesterday should not be hard to break the $1000 mark this month.

How cool is that its like having a second home

[Ohmsby]

PS. $38.00 to fill up the Toro:flaming:

[dboat]

Reading the prior posts, it makes me that much more glad that I work from home, and drive only a few miles locally to run errands. My longest trip is to the airport for which I am reimbursed for mileage by the company.. The L sat on its winter gas tank for over a month before I put any in..

I do honestly believe this will all pass because the economy can not support these expense levels over the long haul.

Dana

[Beaudee]

Reading the prior posts, it makes me that much more glad that I work from home, and drive only a few miles locally to run errands. My longest trip is to the airport for which I am reimbursed for mileage by the company.. The L sat on its winter gas tank for over a month before I put any in..

I do honestly believe this will all pass because the economy can not support these expense levels over the long haul.

Dana

I hope it passes.From the past prices usually go down after the summer.Given the fact that we are in some kind of ElNino weather pattern,another hurricane in the golf this fall would ruin us and fuel will even go higher..:eek:

[03LightningRocks]

I had a long day yesterday Drove from Denton to Llano then over to Mexia back to Hillsboro and then to Las Colinas for a late afternoon meeting and then back to the Crossroads Casa

Spent $154.00 in fuel what a Monday:eek:

Averaging fuel bills for my truck in the $700-$900 per month and with days like yesterday should not be hard to break the $1000 mark this month.

How cool is that its like having a second home

Try that times 8 vehicles two to three times a week. This sh!t is beginning to seriously cut into my bottom line.:flaming:

[Ohmsby]

maybe you could get them scooters with little trailers behind them....

I hear what you are saying everything has a fuel surcharge on it I can see it filtering through in cost to my customers.

Gas for the boat will surely hit $5.00 at the marina this year I don't know how many $700.00 fill ups I can stand. May have to make everyone paddle.

[03LightningRocks]

maybe you could get them scooters with little trailers behind them....

I hear what you are saying everything has a fuel surcharge on it I can see it filtering through in cost to my customers.

Gas for the boat will surely hit $5.00 at the marina this year I don't know how many $700.00 fill ups I can stand. May have to make everyone paddle.


I was thinking about a horse and buggy. My whole fleet needs upgraded. they are all older than 6 years and no depreciation value is left in any of them. I have put a motor in one of them. I am trying to delay replacing them in the hopes that a hybrid type service van becomes available. Our vans and trucks average 12 MPG. If I can double that number, my total fuel bill would drop back to 2006 levels. Not holding my breath on a double, but even 50% improvement would help.

[Ohmsby]

I was just at the McDonald's worldwide show in Orlando and Ford had an interesting little maintenance truck/van looking ride on display

Looked to be based on the hybrid escape drive train. I think the vehicle is sold currently in Europe

[Mark #2]

I was just at the McDonald's worldwide show in Orlando and Ford had an interesting little maintenance truck/van looking ride on display

Looked to be based on the hybrid escape drive train. I think the vehicle is sold currently in Europe

Ford has a Road Show at TI tomorrow, I'll look for it.

[Ohmsby]

See if they have anything on the Hydraulic Hybrid . Been doing a little reading this is an interesting departure from the status quo. Rumor has them developing this technology for launch before 2010

Rocks what about putting those tornado things in your existing fleet:D

[Silver_2000]

Rocks what about putting those tornado things in your existing fleet:D
I heard the tornados were made by Kel tec ..... :evil

[L8 APEX]

Be nice to the Vornado:bows

[Ohmsby]

I think you are correct Doug

[dboat]

I heard the tornados were made by Kel tec ..... :evil

+1:tu:

[03LightningRocks]

Not made by Kel-Tec, but they did copy the Kel-Tec version.

[L8 APEX]

100 bucks and some change to fill the Lightning up today.
I don't even want to think about filling the diesel. It sure ruins my mood when I think if how long I have to work to just buy gasoline. :mad:

[my2002lightning]

I saw diesel for $4.45/gal. and 92 for $3.93/gal. here yesterday.:tex

[L8 APEX]

Paid 3.95 today, 93 is 4.49 in Southlake.

[lenard_hester]

Recently my company moved from its office in north Irving to downtown Dallas, so my daily commute effectively tripled. I had switched at the time from commuting in the Lightning to commuting in my Mustang, but that wasn't much better. It got so bad that I traded my Mustang in last week for a Yaris. I think in the long run it will probbably be a good idea. The Mustang had 140,000 miles on it and got about 18 MPG, I filled up the Yaris on Saturday and it got 37 MPG. The good news however is that I still have the L and it is finally paid off, so I can still have some fun.

[dboat]

Recently my company moved from its office in north Irving to downtown Dallas, so my daily commute effectively tripled. I had switched at the time from commuting in the Lightning to commuting in my Mustang, but that wasn't much better. It got so bad that I traded my Mustang in last week for a Yaris. I think in the long run it will probbably be a good idea. The Mustang had 140,000 miles on it and got about 18 MPG, I filled up the Yaris on Saturday and it got 37 MPG. The good news however is that I still have the L and it is finally paid off, so I can still have some fun.

Probably a good move.. the numbers usually only work out in these situations on a new car is when you are in the position to trade or sell an old one at the end of its life.. IMHO

[lenard_hester]

Yeah, thats what I figured. My gas savings alone will pay for about a quarter of the monthly payment on the new car, and there is no telling how much longer the mustang would have lasted (although it did seem to be in really good running order)

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Yeah, thats what I figured. My gas savings alone will pay for about a quarter of the monthly payment on the new car, and there is no telling how much longer the mustang would have lasted (although it did seem to be in really good running order)

was there much of a difference in insurance costs?

[03LightningRocks]

Holy crap!! You got 18MPG out of a Mustang with 140K on the clock??? Was it the 6 banger stang? My daughters 2003 GT was only getting 12 city and about 16 highway. She did the same as you...traded it in for a higher mileage vehicle.

By the by Dana...her insurance dropped about 25 bucks a month. She already had really low cost insurance(being female and all).

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By the by Dana...her insurance dropped about 25 bucks a month. She already had really low cost insurance(being female and all).

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This is always a part of the equation..

btw, Rocks.. do you run Mobil 1 in all of your fleet vehicles?

[03LightningRocks]

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This is always a part of the equation..

btw, Rocks.. do you run Mobil 1 in all of your fleet vehicles?

LOL...no. I run what ever the 29.99 oil change place puts in them. I do run Mobile one in my Lightning.

[lenard_hester]

was there much of a difference in insurance costs?
Not sure on that one, haven't got a change in price from the insurance company yet, however, I am sure at worst it will be the same.


Holy crap!! You got 18MPG out of a Mustang with 140K on the clock??? Was it the 6 banger stang? My daughters 2003 GT was only getting 12 city and about 16 highway. She did the same as you...traded it in for a higher mileage vehicle.

12 and 16, dang. No, it was a 96 GT, convertible at that. 18 is what I would get with about 80/20 split on highway/city. If I did highway only I would get 20-22.

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LOL...no. I run what ever the 29.99 oil change place puts in them. I do run Mobile one in my Lightning.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Product_Testing_Las_Vegas.aspx

Rocks, go watch this video.. the taxi guys in Vegas made the switch. They got an increase of over 2 mpg.. plus virtually no engine wear.. according to th taxi company, they saved over 300k per year.. you dont have that many vehicles, but every little bit could help.

Dana

[L8 APEX]

Post up a pic of your Yaris and a few of the detail$ if you don't mind. I saw they were 18-20 grand and quit looking.

[Mark #2]

I have a reservation on a Smart if anyone wants to offer me something for it.

[Beaudee]

Post up a pic of your Yaris and a few of the detail$ if you don't mind. I saw they were 18-20 grand and quit looking.

They where 14 grand out the door beginning of the year.Guess the word got out.:eek:

[L8 APEX]

If gas ever goes down. There will be a lot of cheap crappy cars out there.

[Beaudee]

If gas ever goes down. There will be a lot of cheap crappy cars out there.

I love all the gas savers especially when i do 130MPH flybys on em:icon_mrgreen:I know i got em good when they pull off the road from gettin the shit scared out of em:rll:

[lenard_hester]

Post up a pic of your Yaris and a few of the detail$ if you don't mind. I saw they were 18-20 grand and quit looking.
I paid 14,500 for mine, but it was a very stripped down model. No power windows, no power locks, standard transmission, but it is a sedan and not that strange looking coupe. There were only 3 of them on the lot. The guy said that with this last gas price jump they started selling like hotcakes. I will post a pic tomorrow after I can take one.


If gas ever goes down. There will be a lot of cheap crappy cars out there.
True, however, if prices do go back down, I will just start driving the lightning more.:icon_wink:

The whole point of me doing this was so that I could have my cake and eat it to. I have the Lightning for fun (what could be more fun) and I have the Yaris for the grind of the daily commute. My old commuter car didn't serve that purpose too well.

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Lenard,

are you going to pump up the volume on the stock stereo at least?

Dana

[lenard_hester]

By that do you mean put hundreds of dollars into it? Probabbly not. It gets pretty decent sound as is, it has a CD player and most importantly an auxilary input for my MP3 Player, so I should be good for now.

[lenard_hester]

Ok, here is a picture of it. I have lovingly named it the "Tic-Tac". If you see me on the road, please don't crush me.

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/uploads/689/SP_A0247.jpg