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StormShadow
03-26-2008, 06:22 PM
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TXLIGHTNING
03-26-2008, 06:26 PM
Terry 's trying to be sneaky lol.

RSVT
03-26-2008, 06:35 PM
ill take the kooks before u get rid of it....:evil

ZeusSVT
03-26-2008, 06:41 PM
Terry 's trying to be sneaky lol.

http://www.frisco-online.com/forum/i/expressions/popcorn.gif

charlie
03-26-2008, 06:47 PM
ill take the kooks before u get rid of it....:evil

Crap! You beat me to it. :tex

03LightningRocks
03-26-2008, 06:49 PM
:popcorn

98Cobra
03-26-2008, 07:49 PM
Isn't the title a salvage title now?

FRDRCING
03-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Some one is going to get a nice truck, Hope it stays local and in a good home.

GoldLS1
03-26-2008, 09:54 PM
:popcorn

tiffo60
03-26-2008, 09:55 PM
Isn't the title a salvage title now?

no

03LightningRocks
03-26-2008, 10:07 PM
How does the salvage title get awarded to a vehicle? If the damage from the theft was a total loss, would the insurance report the loss on an Oasis report? If a vehicle is totaled, I thought the vehicle gets a salvage title. It might be interesting to see the Oasis report on it.

BC Lightning
03-26-2008, 10:31 PM
Terry 's trying to be sneaky lol.

its been for sale for a month or two

and it has a clean title

Silver_2000
03-26-2008, 10:39 PM
If I was to guess :evil

It has a lot to do with if the vehicle has a loan on it ...

An oasis report is a ford report - Unless ford did work on it it wouldnt who anything
I dont think I ever took the truck to Ford so - Its likely nearly blank

03LightningRocks
03-26-2008, 10:45 PM
Hmmm... I wouldn't mind having another Lightning, but buying that one would be like marrying a prostitute. Every time I drove it, I would think about all the other guys that have screwed around with it.

L8 APEX
03-26-2008, 11:17 PM
I am drowning in debt and trying to get back on top. It has a clear title and everything is looking right. Most is better than an 04 since the bumper cover and lights are brand new, not a single rock chip or scrape on it. New ground effects, new tires, new BedRug, 100 bucks in SilverStar bulbs etc..
I planned on keeping it but this year has not gone my way at all. My new job has cut hours and budgets. It adds up to a 15K pay cut. My apt lease went up 100 bucks. I owe the IRS 4 grand I wasn't expecting. My emergency root canal cost me 2,165 out of pocket. The guy that went in half on my enclosed trailer called a month ago asking for me to buy him out of it so another 3,500. I spent a lot more restoring the truck than I had planned on. I bought most of the parts new from the dealer and had them do all of the paint work. I bought new keys, remotes, locks etc... I changed the plugs, fuel filter and caught the maintenance up.
So I put it in the Trader as I didn't want to put it on this board since it was stolen and fixed. The bad guys just took some parts off it lights seats and wheels etc. It was not wrecked into a pole, no frame damage, not aburn out or flood vehicle so I think it is still worthy of a clear title. Hope that explains the situation well enough.

03LightningRocks
03-26-2008, 11:52 PM
Terry....on the taxes, Try making an offer in compromise to the IRS. They actually have a form for it. It is based on a formula that figures income and what not. It won't hurt to try. I did this a few years ago and paid around ten cents on the dollar. You can also file for extensions through September and then ask for a payment plan at that point. I have been paying my taxes at the end of the year for so long, I almost forget about the April deadline...LOL.

ZeusSVT
03-27-2008, 08:50 AM
I am drowning in debt and trying to get back on top. It has a clear title and everything is looking right. Most is better than an 04 since the bumper cover and lights are brand new, not a single rock chip or scrape on it. New ground effects, new tires, new BedRug, 100 bucks in SilverStar bulbs etc..
I planned on keeping it but this year has not gone my way at all. My new job has cut hours and budgets. It adds up to a 15K pay cut. My apt lease went up 100 bucks. I owe the IRS 4 grand I wasn't expecting. My emergency root canal cost me 2,165 out of pocket. The guy that went in half on my enclosed trailer called a month ago asking for me to buy him out of it so another 3,500. I spent a lot more restoring the truck than I had planned on. I bought most of the parts new from the dealer and had them do all of the paint work. I bought new keys, remotes, locks etc... I changed the plugs, fuel filter and caught the maintenance up.
So I put it in the Trader as I didn't want to put it on this board since it was stolen and fixed. The bad guys just took some parts off it lights seats and wheels etc. It was not wrecked into a pole, no frame damage, not aburn out or flood vehicle so I think it is still worthy of a clear title. Hope that explains the situation well enough.


I don't need another lightning Terry, but if you got some free time some time, I do need some trouble shooting done on my truck for this lean problem I have had lurking around for a few months now. With your knowledge, it's probably an easy fix and some easy cash. :tu: I haven't been WOT in this thing in forever because i can't figure out what's wrong with it. :confused:

RSVT
03-28-2008, 05:48 PM
I don't need another lightning Terry, but if you got some free time some time, I do need some trouble shooting done on my truck for this lean problem I have had lurking around for a few months now. With your knowledge, it's probably an easy fix and some easy cash. :tu: I haven't been WOT in this thing in forever because i can't figure out what's wrong with it. :confused:

i already tried setting a day & time with him, so can tune my truck also, but it seems he thinks we are cheap bastards........but i guess he only helps who he wants to:nono:

GoldLS1
03-28-2008, 07:46 PM
i already tried setting a day & time with him, so can tune my truck also, but it seems he thinks we are cheap bastards........but i guess he only helps who he wants to:nono:

I'M A CHEAP BASTARD... damn proud of it too!!
No comment on the last statement.

slick-svt
03-28-2008, 08:25 PM
I'M A CHEAP BASTARD... damn proud of it too!!
No comment on the last statement.
I'm also a CB I just bought a tuner and did it myself and I'm please with the out come, plus I didn't feel like drive to the Dallas area, I'm sure Terry would do an awesome job, but chit man gas is killin me......:eek:

GoldLS1
03-28-2008, 09:17 PM
I'm also a CB I just bought a tuner and did it myself and I'm please with the out come, plus I didn't feel like drive to the Dallas area, I'm sure Terry would do an awesome job, but chit man gas is killin me......:eek:

I think thats the best way to do it. You have control and there is always help out there if you get stumped. You want to make changes to your tune or change parts... your out NOTHING to change the tune!!

Mark #2
03-28-2008, 09:21 PM
I'm also a CB I just bought a tuner and did it myself and I'm please with the out come, plus I didn't feel like drive to the Dallas area, I'm sure Terry would do an awesome job, but chit man gas is killin me......:eek:

What exactly did you purchase that allows you to tune?

BC Lightning
03-28-2008, 09:25 PM
but chit man gas is killin me......:eek:

tell me about it I drive from downtown dallas to down town ft worth at least twice a day, summer 3-5 do to trauma season, bought my Tahoe brand new Oct 5, 07, already have 16,000 miles on it :eek:

slick-svt
03-28-2008, 09:31 PM
What exactly did you purchase that allows you to tune?
Predator hand held tuner.

Mark #2
03-28-2008, 09:35 PM
Predator hand held tuner.
You are not tuning, just adjusting.

slick-svt
03-28-2008, 09:37 PM
You are not tuning, just adjusting.
Well sorry bout that....well then I guess I'm adjusting, don't think I'll spend 5k to do tuning......:icon_mrgreen:
I'm very happy with all of the adjustments that I have made.....my main concerns were a/f ratio and timing.

Mark #2
03-28-2008, 09:42 PM
Well sorry bout that....well then I guess I'm adjusting, don't think I'll spend 5k to do tuning......:icon_mrgreen:
The reason I asked is that I have been considering Tuning versus adjusting.
Nothing wrong with adjusting, much better than not doing it.:tu:

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slick-svt
03-28-2008, 09:48 PM
The reason I asked is that I have been considering Tuning versus adjusting.
Nothing wrong with adjusting, much better than not doing it.:tu:

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How much of a difference is there.....does tuning give alot more hp verses adjusting??

Mark #2
03-28-2008, 10:13 PM
How much of a difference is there.....does tuning give alot more hp verses adjusting??

Probabaly not, with a good tune.
The tuners have the knowledge after 9 years on these trucks.

03LightningRocks
03-28-2008, 10:21 PM
How much of a difference is there.....does tuning give alot more hp verses adjusting??

Your predator is putting a tune on your truck. Whoever you purchased the predator from built a tune and put it on the predator. The adjustments your making are slight changes to the A/F and timing that are so small as to not really have much of an affect on the way the truck runs. Mark went out and purchased tuning software so that he now has the tools to actually build a tune from the ground up. I don't know which software he has. But anyway, this was the distinction he was making. He has the tools to actually tune the vehicle. You have a device that allows you to put a tune made by someone else on the vehicle.

I think the gist of it is...He is better than you...LOL.:cool:

ZeusSVT
03-29-2008, 07:15 AM
I'M A CHEAP BASTARD... damn proud of it too!!
No comment on the last statement.


I'll comment on the last statement...:icon_eek:. I have pm'd him twice trying to get something done to fix my truck because I don't want to take it to local shops. Terry seems to be "the one" when it comes to working on lightnings around here. He made mine run perfect after I bought it last year. It's been getting these bank 1 and 2 lean codes, and was still getting them the day it was in the driveway when he tuned it. I have checked all the vacuum lines that I have the ability to get to. But if I get in it WOT the SES light automatically comes back on. So I haven't been able to do that in a few months because I don't wanna damage anything. And I'm no cheap bastard when it comes to quality work. I'm willing to cough up whatever it takes to get it fixed, by a good person. If anyone knows alot about pulling the S/C and all that to get to that one hose in the back, that seems to be the last thing I could probably check (vacuum related) before having to get more in depth, then shoot me a pm. I'll gladly pay my dues for your time and work. :tu:

-Michael

GoldLS1
03-29-2008, 08:25 AM
I'll comment on the last statement...:icon_eek:. I have pm'd him twice trying to get something done to fix my truck because I don't want to take it to local shops. Terry seems to be "the one" when it comes to working on lightnings around here. He made mine run perfect after I bought it last year. It's been getting these bank 1 and 2 lean codes, and was still getting them the day it was in the driveway when he tuned it. I have checked all the vacuum lines that I have the ability to get to. But if I get in it WOT the SES light automatically comes back on. So I haven't been able to do that in a few months because I don't wanna damage anything. And I'm no cheap bastard when it comes to quality work. I'm willing to cough up whatever it takes to get it fixed, by a good person. If anyone knows alot about pulling the S/C and all that to get to that one hose in the back, that seems to be the last thing I could probably check (vacuum related) before having to get more in depth, then shoot me a pm. I'll gladly pay my dues for your time and work. :tu:

-Michael

Have you checked to see the routing is correct on the vac lines. Mine was doing something similar (as far as WOT + light) when I put the stock s/c back on and had the vac hoses backasswards. I think there were only about 2 connections right :rll:. Loped like a bitch tho on stock cams!!

Don't let all the wires and hoses complicate the s/c removal... its a pretty straight forward process. There some good write ups out there that are step by step. My only tip is to take a pic of the wiring and hoses so you know what color goes where (or you could label them).

ZeusSVT
03-29-2008, 09:00 AM
Have you checked to see the routing is correct on the vac lines. Mine was doing something similar (as far as WOT + light) when I put the stock s/c back on and had the vac hoses backasswards. I think there were only about 2 connections right :rll:. Loped like a bitch tho on stock cams!!

Don't let all the wires and hoses complicate the s/c removal... its a pretty straight forward process. There some good write ups out there that are step by step. My only tip is to take a pic of the wiring and hoses so you know what color goes where (or you could label them).


Yeah I have thought about just ripping sh!t out and learning myself. lol. Just afraid if I get some of it off, may not get it back together. Then I'd really be screwed until I could get some one to work on it. I don't know the exact routing, but most looked ok when I went over everything. That one at the back just has me scratching my head though. Wish I had tiny hands so I could just reach back and see if it has a problem or not. I'm workin with JJ from WMS to try and get things right on it. He's far away from texas, but local work just seems to be proving nearly impossible. :tex

-Michael

L8 APEX
03-29-2008, 09:27 AM
Mike, It isn't in the tune so that won't help. I was about to say bring it on over but seeing as you are joining the bash Terry side of the thread I think not. Guys I work a full time job, I work on 2-3 trucks every weekend. I do all I can on my two days off. I have to pick and choose what I do with the little time I have. For years I have been cheap labor or tried to compete on parts. It is not worth my weekends to be the cheapest anymore. I get emails and PM's from folks wanting me to straighted out other tuners bad tunes, work etc. Then I read threads like this and it makes me want to hang up my tools and go enjoy my weekends instead of working 7 days a week only to get bashed anyway. see ya:santa2

ZeusSVT
03-29-2008, 10:15 AM
Mike, It isn't in the tune so that won't help. I was about to say bring it on over but seeing as you are joining the bash Terry side of the thread I think not. Guys I work a full time job, I work on 2-3 trucks every weekend. I do all I can on my two days off. I have to pick and choose what I do with the little time I have. For years I have been cheap labor or tried to compete on parts. It is not worth my weekends to be the cheapest anymore. I get emails and PM's from folks wanting me to straighted out other tuners bad tunes, work etc. Then I read threads like this and it makes me want to hang up my tools and go enjoy my weekends instead of working 7 days a week only to get bashed anyway. see ya:santa2


Not joining the "bash Terry group" by any means. I know you are good at what you do, and respect that. It just sucks when you email some one a couple times and don't even get a response saying "we'll get around to it", even after a few weeks. I like the work that you do, and am willing to spend the money to get things done. I will always come to you, where ever you are at in the metroplex without a problem, and have done so in the past. There is no issue with that at all. I have even given you more dinero than you had requested for your work, twice since the first time we met. I emailed JJ simply to try and get more info because I wasn't getting a response here. This was the first reply I have gotten in some time, and now its a backlash because of some comments that I made in this thread. :confused: I know how it is to put in a full work week and then get pulled into other work on your days off. Hell it's the weekend and I am at work now. It happens to me EVERY week, but AT work. 60, 70 + hours a week most times. That's what I get for working in Telecom though. At least we're fortunate enough to have jobs though, with the economy headed down hill like it is. I know several who don't have jobs now due to layoffs, and can't seem to find people hiring right now either.

I am going to the auto show next Saturday, (but definitely not taking the L down there). So saturday afternoon maybe eveningish, and sunday all day, are open. Like I said before, I'll come to you if you have time. Even if it means meeting where your working on some one else's truck, that's not a problem. Shoot me a pm if so, if not I am sure we can work out another day some time.

And if you thought there was negativity about your work in my previous comments, then an apology is due. Don't hang up the tools....:icon_eek:. lol. The work that you have done for me since purchasing the truck has been superb, and I am sure many many others speak the same. Damn this turned into an essay.

I'm done now. :d :D

-Michael

L8 APEX
03-29-2008, 10:23 AM
0171 0175 or such lean codes don't mean didly, they are the most common nuisance codes in all of Ford history and don't affect the operation of the truck whatsoever. I have been installing engines and doing more critical work by priority.
Take today for example. I bought a new Xcal tuner and had 50 bucks in header gaskets shipped from JDM for jobs this weekend. I fronted the 400 bucks in parts and went to bed early. I get up at 7am and drive 25 miles across town to Donnie's garage ready to pull headers and replace gaskets and tune a Lightning. Well, there ain't nobody over here but the dogs and me... So here I am wasting another weekend with a box full of parts I charged and no customer here to buy them. This happens at least once or twice a month. It wears very thin. I am tired of putting out my money for parts and driving across town to sit and stare at the walls:bs

Silver_2000
03-29-2008, 10:28 AM
0171 0175 or such lean codes don't mean didly, they are the most common nuisance codes in all of Ford history and don't affect the operation of the truck whatsoever. I have been installing engines and doing more critical work by priority.
Take today for example. I bought a new Xcal tuner and had 50 bucks in header gaskets shipped from JDM for jobs this weekend. I fronted the 400 bucks in parts and went to bed early. I get up at 7am and drive 25 miles across town to Donnie's garage ready to pull headers and replace gaskets and tune a Lightning. Well, there ain't nobody over here but the dogs and me... So here I am wasting another weekend with a box full of parts I charged and no customer here to buy them. This happens at least once or twice a month. It wears very thin. I am tired of putting out my money for parts and driving across town to sit and stare at the walls:bs

That sucks - Im embarrassed that folks here would have as little consideration as that.

Sounds like its time for me to rant again about how kids these days ..........

ZeusSVT
03-29-2008, 10:38 AM
0171 0175 or such lean codes don't mean didly, they are the most common nuisance codes in all of Ford history and don't affect the operation of the truck whatsoever. I have been installing engines and doing more critical work by priority.
Take today for example. I bought a new Xcal tuner and had 50 bucks in header gaskets shipped from JDM for jobs this weekend. I fronted the 400 bucks in parts and went to bed early. I get up at 7am and drive 25 miles across town to Donnie's garage ready to pull headers and replace gaskets and tune a Lightning. Well, there ain't nobody over here but the dogs and me... So here I am wasting another weekend with a box full of parts I charged and no customer here to buy them. This happens at least once or twice a month. It wears very thin. I am tired of putting out my money for parts and driving across town to sit and stare at the walls:bs

I feel the frustration and can see where that would wear thin. I haven't missed a time or cancelled on you. If people are doing that then they truly don't value the work that you do, and they're screwing it up for others..... :nono: If I wasn't here at work, i'd be there in 20 minutes, tops. Damnit. :D

Those two codes come in often and the truck seems to have a little hic-up in the idle at times. Maybe it is nothing, not sure. But they come in ALOT. Sh!t, it took me two months past my inspection date to get it inspected finally. I would drive cycle it and take it in to try to pass. Finally one day it didnt come back while they were driving it and they passed it. :hammer:

Speak of headers.... :evil

ZeusSVT
03-29-2008, 10:41 AM
Sounds like its time for me to rant again about how kids these days ..........


I think so too....people mess it up for others, and wasting valuable time in which others would love to have for their rides.....:flaming:

:popcorn

dboat
03-29-2008, 11:13 AM
Take today for example. I bought a new Xcal tuner and had 50 bucks in header gaskets shipped from JDM for jobs this weekend. I fronted the 400 bucks in parts and went to bed early. I get up at 7am and drive 25 miles across town to Donnie's garage ready to pull headers and replace gaskets and tune a Lightning. Well, there ain't nobody over here but the dogs and me... So here I am wasting another weekend with a box full of parts I charged and no customer here to buy them. This happens at least once or twice a month. It wears very thin. I am tired of putting out my money for parts and driving across town to sit and stare at the walls:bs

That is the the MOST INCONSIDERATE action I can think of.. In the future, get a deposit via paypal that is non-refundable.. if they arent there, too bad so sad, you lose your money.. I for one have always been there when I said I would.. and Terry has always been there for me too.. I always felt that it was the least that I could do. IMHO

Dana

GoldLS1
03-29-2008, 02:16 PM
That sucks - Im embarrassed that folks here would have as little consideration as that.

Sounds like its time for me to rant again about how kids these days ..........


Wait wait.... why is the "old" always blaming the "kids"!?!? Don't blame the kids blame the parents!! It's you "old" farts fault!!

And Terry: Why do you keep buying parts outa of pocket w/o an upfront payment if you've been burned so many times? First time shame on them, second time shame on you :nono:. Not bashing you... just curious. As for the ass that made an apointment and didn't show, I can only hope there was a good excuse...

Silver_2000
03-29-2008, 02:24 PM
Wait wait.... why is the "old" always blaming the "kids"!?!? Don't blame the kids blame the parents!! It's you "old" farts fault!!

Any "kid" old enough to drive a lightning is old enough to be responsible for his/her own actions

Its just like the whippersnappers to blame someone else....:evil:nono:

mxracerzero
03-29-2008, 02:32 PM
How about blaming the F tards that mess it up for everyone else and not the "kids" or "old farts". Because people of all ages do stupid chit that pisses every one off.

GoldLS1
03-29-2008, 02:48 PM
Any "kid" old enough to drive a lightning is old enough to be responsible for his/her own actions

Its just like the whippersnappers to blame someone else....:evil:nono:

Just like a gramps telling where we went wrong!! :tu:

RSVT
03-29-2008, 04:04 PM
Mike, It isn't in the tune so that won't help. I was about to say bring it on over but seeing as you are joining the bash Terry side of the thread I think not. Guys I work a full time job, I work on 2-3 trucks every weekend. I do all I can on my two days off. I have to pick and choose what I do with the little time I have. For years I have been cheap labor or tried to compete on parts. It is not worth my weekends to be the cheapest anymore. I get emails and PM's from folks wanting me to straighted out other tuners bad tunes, work etc. Then I read threads like this and it makes me want to hang up my tools and go enjoy my weekends instead of working 7 days a week only to get bashed anyway. see ya:santa2
I wasnt trying to bash on you, im just saying the truth, i asked you twice, once you told me you couldnt do at the monthly meeting, i asked you when was a good time and you Said " Never, You are a Cheap Bastard", So i took it as of you dont want to work on my truck

L8 APEX
03-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Because you are always asking 20 questions and never buy anything from me. You get it used or from some other tuner. Just like your tune you bought an LFP tune then when it runs like crap you want me to redo it. That mentality frustrates me to no end. If you want to be cheap fine, enjoy the crappy tunes and customer service from folks in Houston, New Jersey etc. Stuff is always cheaper when they don't have to back up what they sell FTF. I am tired of working all weekend and Sundays not to be appreciated.

RSVT
03-29-2008, 06:47 PM
Because you are always asking 20 questions and never buy anything from me. You get it used or from some other tuner. Just like your tune you bought an LFP tune then when it runs like crap you want me to redo it. That mentality frustrates me to no end. If you want to be cheap fine, enjoy the crappy tunes and customer service from folks in Houston, New Jersey etc. Stuff is always cheaper when they don't have to back up what they sell FTF. I am tired of working all weekend and Sundays not to be appreciated.

the tune came with xcal2 that i bought frm there........everything i have bought is new never used.....and the only thing i have bought frm you were used springs and used slicks w/rims, all i asked for was a retune with datalog & a/f and you said NO! Now thats crappy customer services and the only reason i asks questions is to do it myself, so you dont have to do the labor(which takes less your time), and jus tune the truck but NO im a cheap bastard....and i have always come to you or met you where you were at.....I have never had work from you done but I want you to tune it because everybody points to you saying your the man....and when i do go to you , you give me an answer of no....

dboat
03-29-2008, 07:05 PM
:popcorn

slick-svt
03-29-2008, 07:15 PM
Dam sucks being a cheap bastard.......I'm one also......:icon_mrgreen:

L8 APEX
03-29-2008, 07:18 PM
I have a shelf full of tuners, I am an SCT dealer, why not buy one from me? Why give LFP the 400 bucks. That is why I told you no you gave them 400 bucks for tuning.
You would have gotten better service if you bought a tuner from me. Better tunes for sure. Thanks for your contribution Dana. I am done with this tread:santa2.
There is a time to be cheap, when it comes to something where you may need someone's personal knowledge or abilities it costs a lot more doing it cheap the first time around.

RSVT
03-29-2008, 07:51 PM
why does it matter where i bought my stuff at, all im asking you was to tune, datalog, a/f the truck,.......you should of still treated me like a regular paying customer........When can i take my truck?:twitch:

Wht95Lightning
03-29-2008, 08:13 PM
why does it matter where i bought my stuff at, all im asking you was to tune, datalog, a/f the truck,.......you should of still treated me like a regular paying customer........When can i take my truck?:twitch:

You want service after the sale? Then buy the parts from the guy that's going to be servicing it. That's the way it works.

03LightningRocks
03-29-2008, 11:50 PM
You want service after the sale? Then buy the parts from the guy that's going to be servicing it. That's the way it works.


:bows

98Cobra
03-30-2008, 12:52 AM
You want service after the sale? Then buy the parts from the guy that's going to be servicing it. That's the way it works.

I dont know that I would totally agree with that statement, since I would assume he is not wanting a free tune.

If it were me, I would charge a certain amount for a tune for customers that have bought parts from me, and a higher rate for people that went elsewhere for the parts but want my expertise.

Just my two cents.

Silver_2000
03-30-2008, 01:55 AM
Just like a gramps telling where we went wrong!! :tu:

You missed the whole whippersnapper reference

use the search and you will see that it was a joke

there were a whole bunch of terms we coined back then

GoldLS1
03-30-2008, 08:29 AM
You missed the whole whippersnapper reference

use the search and you will see that it was a joke

there were a whole bunch of terms we coined back then


I know what whippersnapper is.... my grandpa and his friends used to always use it when my generation did something bad (usually I heard it used when talking about driving; Damn whippersnappers keep cutting me off, them whippersnappers drive too fast, etc)!!

Silver_2000
03-30-2008, 10:50 AM
I know what whippersnapper is.... my grandpa and his friends used to always use it when my generation did something bad (usually I heard it used when talking about driving; Damn whippersnappers keep cutting me off, them whippersnappers drive too fast, etc)!!
Yes but it has special meaning here :evil:evil:rll:

Ohmsby
03-30-2008, 11:13 AM
I want in on this Terry bashing fo sho.

It's obvious that he cant keep any of our numbers to call us back. He even posted pictures of his poor database storage skills by letting it fall in a small puddle.

And on that subject only Tifton is a worse driver of an ATV. I mean who gets stuck in a four foot deep hole like that. All of us sport quad guys know to lean back and pin the throttle.:burnout:

I once left him in my shop with a hottie from Houston and he did not even share any pics he may have taken.:evil

Lets face it this guy is an A$$. I for one will not speak to him until the next time........

StormShadow
03-30-2008, 11:14 AM
I like to think of myself as more of a snapperwhipper

tiffo60
03-31-2008, 08:48 AM
I want in on this Terry bashing fo sho.

It's obvious that he cant keep any of our numbers to call us back. He even posted pictures of his poor database storage skills by letting it fall in a small puddle.

And on that subject only Tifton is a worse driver of an ATV. I mean who gets stuck in a four foot deep hole like that. All of us sport quad guys know to lean back and pin the throttle.:burnout:

I once left him in my shop with a hottie from Houston and he did not even share any pics he may have taken.:evil

Lets face it this guy is an A$$. I for one will not speak to him until the next time........

Dont make me come out and show you what that KTM can actually do:d

Ohmsby
03-31-2008, 09:03 AM
I will let you ride on the handlebars:eek2:

tiffo60
03-31-2008, 09:11 AM
I will let you ride on the handlebars:eek2:


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gbgary
03-31-2008, 11:38 AM
I like to think of myself as more of a snapperwhipper


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projlightning
03-31-2008, 11:39 AM
.....I'm a cheap bastard.....

sure are.....$10 supporting member fee....:evil

TXLIGHTNING
03-31-2008, 12:15 PM
That is the the MOST INCONSIDERATE action I can think of.. In the future, get a deposit via paypal that is non-refundable.. if they arent there, too bad so sad, you lose your money.. I for one have always been there when I said I would.. and Terry has always been there for me too.. I always felt that it was the least that I could do. IMHO

Dana+1 That is messed up :gatling: Terry's always been here for me, so I will always be there for him. :beer: Terry

Moonshine
03-31-2008, 01:41 PM
T,

It appears you're still having the same issues with people stiffing you on parts and/or not showing up for apppointments. As we've previously discussed, the only cure will be to have them front the money for the parts (+return/restock) fee, and a non-refundable service deposit that covers the first two hours of your work. Legit customers won't mind, and those that do mind are likely the folks who are stiffing you, so the loss of their "business" isn't a loss at all.

Silver_2000
03-31-2008, 02:31 PM
T,

It appears you're still having the same issues with people stiffing you on parts and/or not showing up for apppointments. As we've previously discussed, the only cure will be to have them front the money for the parts (+return/restock) fee, and a non-refundable service deposit that covers the first two hours of your work. Legit customers won't mind, and those that do mind are likely the folks who are stiffing you, so the loss of their "business" isn't a loss at all.

I think we have all had the same discussion with him ...

Another option is to buy the parts with owners credit card or have the owner buy the parts since he isnt making enough markup on the parts to make up for the no shows

ZeusSVT
03-31-2008, 04:53 PM
T,

It appears you're still having the same issues with people stiffing you on parts and/or not showing up for apppointments. As we've previously discussed, the only cure will be to have them front the money for the parts (+return/restock) fee, and a non-refundable service deposit that covers the first two hours of your work. Legit customers won't mind, and those that do mind are likely the folks who are stiffing you, so the loss of their "business" isn't a loss at all.


I think we have all had the same discussion with him ...

Another option is to buy the parts with owners credit card or have the owner buy the parts since he isnt making enough markup on the parts to make up for the no shows

I agree with both. Weed out the "cheap bastards"....not to quote any one. :evil Then the ones that truthfully want legit work done will have a greater opportunity to get Terry's quality mechanic time. :bows

RSVT
03-31-2008, 05:07 PM
All i asked for a was for him to tune my truck, thats it, i never left him hangin at a apointment, and i wasnt trying to bash on him......Now hes taking where he doesnt want to help me.....

RSVT
03-31-2008, 05:08 PM
sure are.....$10 supporting member fee....:evil

I havent renewed it, and your cheap bastard for buying a 7k truck and didnt get a Gen2 that cost 20k:evil

TXLIGHTNING
03-31-2008, 05:50 PM
Rule #1, don't piss your tuner off :nono:. Try sending him a bottle of Reserve or XR :evil.

L8 APEX
03-31-2008, 06:34 PM
Yep, the new guys don't remember the shit list or know my proclivity to hold a little grudge:evil.
It is tough on the parts to get a deposit cause most pay cash it isn't easy to drive across town just to get a deposit etc. Paypal charges heavy fees. I don't want to hassle or inconvenience folks like that in general. When I sell parts it helps make ends meet. It is not usually worth my time just to make a little labor here and there. It takes making some from parts and labor to be worth doing. But I am about done with it all together. It just isn't worth my sanity at this point. I will be a little tighter as to the jobs I want to take on going forward.

Mark #2
03-31-2008, 06:49 PM
Terry, Thanks for sending the recent tunes for the SCT2 that I purchased from you.

Running the LF2_shifts program now on the street, seems pretty good.

Mark

hotrodsbygeorge
03-31-2008, 07:08 PM
Do what I do...have them bring the car to you. Then never front more money then the car is worth :icon_mrgreen: Damn I wish some of my customers would jack me around on a bill I would own some nice cars. Mechanics liens are a wonderfull thing. JK all my customers are very cool but a man can dream can't he ?

GoldLS1
03-31-2008, 08:46 PM
I agree with both. Weed out the "cheap bastards"....not to quote any one. :evil Then the ones that truthfully want legit work done will have a greater opportunity to get Terry's quality mechanic time. :bows

Wait wait cheap bastards ARENT the ones stiffing Terry... its the unconsiderate bastards!! I mean wtf, some peoples words don't mean shit now adays. I'm a cheap bastard and I've done work with Terry a few times and I've always kept to what I've said. Don't confuse the two bastard types!! :tu:

RSVT
03-31-2008, 08:48 PM
Wait wait cheap bastards ARENT the ones stiffing Terry... its the unconsiderate bastards!! I mean wtf, some peoples words don't mean shit now adays. I'm a cheap bastard and I've done work with Terry a few times and I've always kept to what I've said. Don't confuse the two bastard types!! :tu:

+1:evil

ZeusSVT
03-31-2008, 10:13 PM
Wait wait cheap bastards ARENT the ones stiffing Terry... its the unconsiderate bastards!! I mean wtf, some peoples words don't mean shit now adays. I'm a cheap bastard and I've done work with Terry a few times and I've always kept to what I've said. Don't confuse the two bastard types!! :tu:


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