Jared jewelers in Hurst, TX now posted 30.06 (No CHL Allowed)

[Wht95Lightning]

I took my wife's wedding set in for it's annual inspection/check-up today and was pretty disgusted when I saw the entrance. A legal 30.06 sign. We've been using this store for 10 years, now we're going to go somewhere else. A friend of my wife works there and has always given us great service. I'll go ahead and send the whole no-guns = no money emails, but I doubt they'll reach anyone that cares.

Several hours later....

Suprisingly, I got a fairly quick response. Not surprisingly, it's the typical sheeple speak.


Dear Mr. Miller,

Thank you for the quick reply. I will make sure that everyone I know is aware that if they choose to come to your store, that their safety rests in the hands of a total stranger standing by the door sending text messages on his cell phone.
There are plenty of jewelers that do not infringe on my legal rights. One of them will be getting my future business.

Regards,
Gary Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: jaredcr@jewels.com [mailto:jaredcr@jewels.com]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:12 PM

Dear Mr. Gary Jones,

Thank you for contacting us at Jared the Galleria of Jewelry. As part of corporate policy, Jared reserves the right to prohibit the carrying of firearms/weapons or dangerous ordinance of any kind, concealed or otherwise, on company property. The security personnel provided in our Jared stores, as a prerequisite of employment with Jared, have gone through extensive training and background checks. Any attempt to bring firearms/weapons or dangerous ordinance will result in arrest by the appropriate authorities and possible prosecution.

This policy was adopted to help provide a safe environment for our customers and our employees.

Sincerely,
Michael Miller

Customer Relations
Your customer service representative is: Michael Miller
Summary: Customer Relations at Jared

[L8 APEX]

An armed society is a polite society.
Let the rest of them keep their heads in the sand and pray they aren't shot in the ass while doing so.
To each his own, but like daddy said "I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six".:tex

[dboat]

What are the penalties for getting caught carrying in the store?


this is where the Kel Tec shines.. its small and very hideable.

Dana

[gagspa]

I'm afraid that we are going to see this more often. Most businesses that post the old ghostbuster sign still think that it is a valid sign. Someone will eventually start to spread the word that they need the 30.06 sign to make it effective to CHLers. Once the word gets out the signs will be everywhere. Hopefully by then Perry will have changed the law to allow you to carry anywhere, but I doubt it. It is unfortunate that businesses are dumb enough to think that the criminals will pay any attention to the posted signs. Only the law-abiding people will obey the sign.

dboat, If I remember correctly, a CHLer ignoring a 30.06 and therefore carrying in a prohibited area can be charged with a felony offense.

[SILVER2000SVT]

I don't think they realize how many customers they will lose by posting these signs. Whether it's enough to harm the business or not it will definitely be enough to make some negative impact.

How many customers will they lose by allowing CHL's to carry? Probably none. So even if you look past the blindingly obvious fact that only the law abiding citizens will pay attention to these signs and the criminals won't, the simple business decision would be not to purposely crap on your law-abiding customers because they will take their business elsewhere.

[PUMP]

The old saying "When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" applies to these businesses.

[L8 APEX]

When CHL first popped up in the 90's almost ALL businesses posted signs against this. After a few quiet years and a few lawsuits MOST of those businesses have removed them. I have not seen a bank with a CHL sign up in 6 years. I won't use a bank that does post one. It is my money until I get the deposit slip!
The catch is that if they post and prohibit CHL then they are legally assuming responsibility for your safety on their property. I heard there were some good lawsuits against these businesses so most removed the signs. It is very rare to run into a legal sign these days.
If you are caught then you were not concealing very well. You could simply be asked to leave or it could end in CHL suspension and serious charges. This is where sharp Jedi powers come into play.

[jeff56]

Not that I would recommend such a thing, but really - it is a CONCEALED handgun permit - if you are carrying concealed as required by law, who is going to know you are carrying. The only time this should ever come to light is if one were to have to do work when a robbery was going down, etc. If that was the case, a 30.06 violation is nothing compared to a) being alive, or b) saving the life of another.

Sure wouldn't think most DA's would go after that charge with great succes.

[L8 APEX]

Also a lot of employers these days have specific forms you have to sign acknowledging that they do not allow CHL on their premiss's even if left in your vehicle. All though it is legal in your state of employment they have covered their tails with this form. I digress back to Jeff's observations:tu:

[03LightningRocks]

The problem I see with these signs being posted is that the sign is basically telling the bad guys that the occupants on the premises are easy targets. Walking into my place of business with bad intentions could be real hazardous to ones health. Let's just say there are no 30.06 signs on my windows or doors.:evil

[dboat]

The problem I see with these signs being posted is that the sign is basically telling the bad guys that the occupants on the premises are easy targets. Walking into my place of business with bad intentions could be real hazardous to ones health. Let's just say there are no 30.06 signs on my windows or doors.:evil

Better yet.. why not have a sign that says, CHL encouraged.. :tu:

[BC Lightning]

Better yet.. why not have a sign that says, CHL encouraged.. :tu:

Thats what I'm thinking, knowing someone has been fingerprinted and had a federal background check and has a license to legally carry would give me more ease when going into somewhere that might be more prone to a robbery because of all the jewelry

I guess that might be part of the problem as well, most people aren't educated on what all of the requirments are to obtain a CHL and might think its a bunch of people carrying guns

[dboat]

Thats what I'm thinking, knowing someone has been fingerprinted and had a federal background check and has a license to legally carry would give me more ease when going into somewhere that might be more prone to a robbery because of all the jewelry

I guess that might be part of the problem as well, most people aren't educated on what all of the requirments are to obtain a CHL and might think its a bunch of people carrying guns

glad we agree on this.. I would hate to think that you are going to accuse me of being a male escort.. :evil

[L8 APEX]

The problem is no matter how clean a CHL holder may be. MOST are not trained to handle robberies and even fewer seek/maintain any tactical training and proficiency with their weapons. A third of the people that passed in my class could not load their own weapons, swept the instructor with the barrel and could not clear malfunctions on their own:tex. They paid so they passed...

[Silver_2000]

The problem is no matter how clean a CHL holder may be. MOST are not trained to handle robberies and even fewer seek/maintain any tactical training and proficiency with their weapons. A third of the people that passed in my class could not load their own weapons, swept the instructor with the barrel and could not clear malfunctions on their own:tex. They paid so they passed...
That shows that there is hope for me

[dboat]

That shows that there is hope for me

me too..

[BC Lightning]

The problem is no matter how clean a CHL holder may be. MOST are not trained to handle robberies and even fewer seek/maintain any tactical training and proficiency with their weapons. A third of the people that passed in my class could not load their own weapons, swept the instructor with the barrel and could not clear malfunctions on their own:tex. They paid so they passed...

I know they will let almost anyone take the class and shoot who pays, but I'm sure there are some who have some type of record causing them to fail and not get their license from Austin


That shows that there is hope for me

I passed :D

[03LightningRocks]

I am sure there are folks that pass the class that have no business possessing a weapon. The bad guys will take care of them for us.:evil The point of a CHL isn't so you can protect the public, it is for protecting yourself.
Having folks out there with CHL works similar to having an alarm on your car. The BG's usually go after the easy car, not the one that will cause all hell to bust loose. Here is what I was getting at with my comment about the BG's knowing your a soft target. Knowing that this jewelry store is legally posted 30.06, and knowing that law abiding citizens will usually abide by the law, the BG's know that anybody coming out of there with a bag full of expensive jewelry is not going to be able to put up armed resistance.
I am not really that concerned with the BG that decides to walk in there and rob the place. That is the jewelry stores problem....not mine. Now if during the robbery, the BG decides to start shooting people execution style, it becomes my problem. In a case like this, I would love to see 10 suns of bitches whip out guns and start firing at the BG. I don't care if they have tactical training or not. Somebody will get lucky and hit him. Before some dumski posts that someone might hit an innocent civilian, remember that I said the BG was shooting people execution style. Your screwed either way. I would rather take the chance with the ability to stop the killing.

[Moonshine]

Not that I would recommend such a thing, but really - it is a CONCEALED handgun permit - if you are carrying concealed as required by law, who is going to know you are carrying. The only time this should ever come to light is if one were to have to do work when a robbery was going down, etc. If that was the case, a 30.06 violation is nothing compared to a) being alive, or b) saving the life of another.

Sure wouldn't think most DA's would go after that charge with great succes.

+1. Another example of the written law vs. the law of the street. :rolleyes:

You know, there was a time in this state when it was illegal for cops to carry guns in certain places. And, like Jeff, I wouldn't recommend breaking the law, but if a written law doesn't pass the common sense test..........