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BC Lightning
10-19-2008, 03:45 PM
Apparently he won't give documents to prove where he is born, His Grandmother is saying Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Beaudee
10-19-2008, 03:52 PM
I heard there is a big controversy over that.http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/814125/barack_obamas_birth_certificate.html Who knows.They say he was born in Africa,but birth cert. apparently says Hawai.:eek: I didnt know his middle name was Hussein LOL...

BC Lightning
10-19-2008, 03:58 PM
I heard there is a big controversy over that.http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/814125/barack_obamas_birth_certificate.html Who knows.They say he was born in Africa,but birth cert. apparently says Hawai.:eek: I didnt know his middle name was Hussein LOL...

Grandma says Kenya, sis says one hosp. in Hawaii, NObama says another in Hawaii

another vid on the birth certificate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE

BradOcean
10-20-2008, 05:38 AM
Isnt it a requirement to be born in the States to be the pres?

dboat
10-20-2008, 08:17 AM
Isnt it a requirement to be born in the States to be the pres?

yes

WA 2 FST
10-20-2008, 09:39 AM
The American people deserve the truth on this one. I don't know who this Berg guy is, but he's just asked some honest (and not difficult) questions of his own Democratic party.

Show the documents. It's that simple. There doesn't need to be any red tape here. It's cut and dry.

Sounds like he's either a nationalized citizen (not natural born citizen) or he's an illegal... the latter of which means immediate deportation, IMHO.

If this thing really has any teeth to it (and the Supreme Court should be able to determine this), then they should either 1) suspend the election or 2) run Biden vs. McCain.

You'd think the Democratic Party would have enough pride in itself to get this right. I'm surprised the Clintons haven't jumped on this. The last thing they want is for Obama to sit in office for 8 years.

Silver_2000
10-20-2008, 04:43 PM
berg is a clinton supporter

and a trouble maker that likes talking on camera

He may be being ignored based on past experience

IT does raise some interesting questions


What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?
Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.

When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five of the years after the age of 14. An exception for people serving in the military was created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship, amendments since 1952 have eliminated these requirements.

Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen mother were US citizens if the mother was resident in the US for a period of one year prior to the birth of the child. Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen father acquired US citizenship only if legitimated before turning 21.

including whether McCain qualifies

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html


Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office.
Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states.

SNIP

Mr. McCain’s citizenship was established by statutes covering the offspring of Americans abroad and laws specific to the Canal Zone as Congress realized that Americans would be living and working in the area for extended periods. But whether he qualifies as natural-born has been a topic of Internet buzz for months, with some declaring him ineligible while others assert that he meets all the basic constitutional qualifications — a natural-born citizen at least 35 years of age with 14 years of residence.