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L8 APEX
11-02-2008, 10:05 PM
What a fluke deal...
A 50 cal round came down through the roof of a motor home and shattered a ladies arm. The slug looked unscathed... I wonder where it came from. I bet they can track it. Not everyone is out there blasting 50cals...:icon_eek:

nacklas
11-02-2008, 10:06 PM
WOW!:icon_eek:

Wht95Lightning
11-02-2008, 10:54 PM
Oh crap.. :icon_eek:


There's a range very close to TMS called quail creek range. http://quailcreekrange.com/

tiffo60
11-03-2008, 09:14 AM
I can think of someone real close to there that has a .50 cal:D

RSVT
11-03-2008, 06:29 PM
I have a desert eagle .50 cal for a sale at the pawn shop if anyone is looking for one.

my2002lightning
11-03-2008, 07:41 PM
Did the news say if it was a .50 BMG or .50 AE? Big difference between the two rounds. I'm guessing .50 BMG given the injury.:icon_sad:

I hope the lady is alright given the situation.

Moonshine
11-04-2008, 08:20 AM
Looked like a .50 BMG from the news clip. Coulda' come from several miles away.

slick-svt
11-04-2008, 08:21 AM
Lookeed like 650 or 750 grain boat tail.....maybe match ammo

L8 APEX
11-05-2008, 10:09 PM
The guy owned up to the round. The shot came from 5 miles away. They are supposed to accept his apology and forgive him. There goes our 50 cal rights.:icon_rolleyes:

yadisisp2
11-05-2008, 10:19 PM
5 miles away? DAMN

WA 2 FST
11-05-2008, 11:04 PM
The guy owned up to the round. The shot came from 5 miles away. They are supposed to accept his apology and forgive him. There goes our 50 cal rights.:icon_rolleyes:

What? Was it an accident, or was he firing into the air? Certainly he wasn't trying to hit someone, but if it was a stupid act that lead to someone getting hurt unintentionally, that's still incredibly irresponsible and should be dealt with accordingly.

L8 APEX
11-05-2008, 11:07 PM
The guy is supposedly a competition shooter and was target practicing and over shot a target.
To me the round was coming down at a sharp angle and was not deformed by ricochet. It was obviously cranked off at a decent incline or off the end of a cliff.

GoldLS1
11-05-2008, 11:11 PM
The guy is supposedly a competition shooter and was target practicing and over shot a target.
To me the round was coming down at a sharp angle and was not deformed by ricochet. It was obviously cranked off at a decent incline or off the end of a cliff.

Yep... I think he was being a dumbass playing the "I wonder if" game. I'm all about guns, but shit like that pisses me off. No wonder "city folk" are antigun. I'm interested to see how this plays out....

WA 2 FST
11-05-2008, 11:12 PM
The guy is supposedly a competition shooter and was target practicing and over shot a target.
To me the round was coming down at a sharp angle and was not deformed by ricochet. It was obviously cranked off at a decent incline or off the end of a cliff.

Exactly what I was thinking, which makes it _not_ an accident for it to come down at that angle.

It's irresponsible owners who inadvertently help pass liberal legislation that will infringe on our 2nd Amendment rights.

Moonshine
11-06-2008, 09:08 AM
The bullet doesn't look deformed, but beyond that, for any of us to suggest that we know what he was doing is highly speculative. How about we wait and see what the investigation determines before passing judgment either way?

WA 2 FST
11-06-2008, 09:15 AM
Fair enough. :tu:

Silver_2000
11-06-2008, 10:54 AM
I read an article that said he turned himself in and said he was shooting at targets in front of a berm - That could have simply over penetrated the berm

98Cobra
11-06-2008, 03:26 PM
My friend says the end of the range faces away from TMS. So it would have to be a ricochet...

L8 APEX
11-06-2008, 03:44 PM
I don;t think a 180 degree ricochet would fly 5 miles. I don't think the round could hit anything and go 5 miles. It penetrated the trailer in a clean round hole. A tumbling/ricochet round would not make it a mile.;)

TXLIGHTNING
11-06-2008, 04:03 PM
I think the guy purposefully or by mistake fired one off in the air.

slick-svt
11-06-2008, 04:18 PM
I don;t think a 180 degree ricochet would fly 5 miles. I don't think the round could hit anything and go 5 miles. It penetrated the trailer in a clean round hole. A tumbling/ricochet round would not make it a mile.;)
It wasn't distorted or out of shape, a ricochet would have tumbled like hell and don't think it would have went 5 miles.....:nono:

99WhiteBeast
11-06-2008, 06:08 PM
Is there a link to the news article. I'm having a hard time following the angle deal from 5 miles away- didn't think there that much elevation out that way unless he was firing upward??

Moonshine
11-06-2008, 08:48 PM
Did a little playing around with my ballistic software, and even at a 30 degree elevation (generally considered the optimum elevation for maximum total flight distance) I can't get a .50 BMG 750 gr. A-Max to show a maximum range beyond 4.34 miles at any sort of reasonable velocity. Maybe he was shooting a bullet with a better ballistic coeffieicent, maybe he was shooting at considerably higher velocity than I calculated (2800 fps), maybe it wasn't his bullet. Time will tell. I would tentatively agree that it's exceedingly unlikely that the bullet richocheted or struck any kind of intermedite barrier and still remained aloft for that distance. But bullets can do some really weird and unexpected things.