tuners.........

[01 bolt]

i want to do the 4lb lower pulley swap but the only thing holding me back. is finding an experienced tuner on lightnings. im not gonna just trust any shop to tune my truck. dont want to blow my engine. can some of you guys tell me where you got your truck tuned.

[Mark #2]

i want to do the 4lb lower pulley swap but the only thing holding me back. is finding an experienced tuner on lightnings. im not gonna just trust any shop to tune my truck. dont want to blow my engine. can some of you guys tell me where you got your truck tuned.
4lb doesn't need a tune IMO

[Ohmsby]

agreed.

But if you need a tune Terry is local and very capable. If he is not available have one of the other known tuners send you an SCT and some can tunes which will be safe for a 4 lb IMHO

[01 bolt]

well ive always been told if your going to do a lower pulley swap of any kind you need to get a pulley tune. so im gonna play it safe and do that. any good lightning tuners around dallas fort worth area?

[Mark #2]

well ive always been told if your going to do a lower pulley swap of any kind you need to get a pulley tune. so im gonna play it safe and do that. any good lightning tuners around dallas fort worth area?
You are safer on the stock computer IMHO.

[Ohmsby]

PS Mark has the fastest stock block in the club he knows a thing or two

[WA 2 FST]

well ive always been told if your going to do a lower pulley swap of any kind you need to get a pulley tune. so im gonna play it safe and do that. any good lightning tuners around dallas fort worth area?

Only guy I'd let tune my truck who is in the DFW area is Terry Cole. He's a well-known member here who has done countless of L tunes, from mild to wild combos and knows these trucks as well as any of the high-profile guys you read about in the rags.

There are a couple of decent mail-order shops I'd use, but no one else in the DFW area. The shops that tune Mustangs do _not_ always get it right with these trucks. Period.

[dboat]

Contact Terry Cole.. he did mine.. wouldnt want to trust anyone else.

[0'Lightning]

4lb doesn't need a tune IMO

REALLY:D?? I just put a #4 crank, and new plugs on my truck sunday and have been keeping it under 2200rpms untill i get a tune. Is really ok to go WOT??

I have a appt with terry around the 5th to get my tunes:tu:

[Mark #2]

REALLY:D?? I just put a #4 crank, and new plugs on my truck sunday and have been keeping it under 2200rpms untill i get a tune. Is really ok to go WOT??

I have a appt with terry on the 5th to get my tunes:tu:
Terry will give you a good tune, I have his tunes in my truck.
What plugs and what gaps?
Always run 93, detonation is the killer on these motors.

[0'Lightning]

TR6's gapped to .035

[0'Lightning]

sry :threadhijack my check engine light came on yesterday giving me codes po171 and 174. Could this because of the new pulley and not a tune?

[Mark #2]

No worries to get on it from 0-100, no kick downs.

[BC Lightning]

well ive always been told if your going to do a lower pulley swap of any kind you need to get a pulley tune. so im gonna play it safe and do that. any good lightning tuners around dallas fort worth area?

using the stock tune is very safe, the timing is very low considering what other guysrun with "dyno tunes" you can run for years on a 4# with stock tune and be safer than someone who has been re-tuned, only draw back is you wont see the full power of the 4#er

[Silver_2000]

4lbs doesnt require a tune - in fact I would run no tune or run one from Terry or maybe one other tuner -

I would MUCH rather run stock than some tune from an idiot "tuner "

As was stated here there is only one local source for Tunes worth a damn - thats Terry

[WA 2 FST]

sry :threadhijack my check engine light came on yesterday giving me codes po171 and 174. Could this because of the new pulley and not a tune?

Seriously doubt it. This is the Bank 1 / Bank 2 system lean codes. Most likely you have a vac line disconnected somewhere or an air leak somewhere from the MAF to the TB or a PCV valve/hose that is off or out of place.

[mikelemoine]

Seriously doubt it. This is the Bank 1 / Bank 2 system lean codes. Most likely you have a vac line disconnected somewhere or an air leak somewhere from the MAF to the TB or a PCV valve/hose that is off or out of place.

With that said...Stay out of the boost until you get that fixed. You can kill the motor fast if you're running lean.

[0'Lightning]

Well sunday I got a #4 crank TR6's and a new PCV, and last thursday I got new magnaflows mufflers on and have felt a slight rattle in my truck at idle ever since. Which makes me think i might have a exhaust or header leak? Could that throw the codes?

[WA 2 FST]

a leak at the header-to-head flange could definitely throw the code, but I doubt an exhaust leak downstream of the front O2s would cause this code.

I would make sure all the vacuum hoses are tight and seated properly, including the PCV hose.

[0'Lightning]

a leak at the header-to-head flange could definitely throw the code

I bet thats it then.

I do have bassani shortys that I have never tightend in the year I have owned the truck. Could the added amount of boost make the headers loosen more??

I checked the hoses and from what I could see they are on the barbs nice and tight. Hose to PCV is good and I know my mechanic checked them all sunday when he did the install.
Hes had 2 Gen2 L's in the past 7 years, just sold his 04'L for a 04'Cobra last week. Did all this work for me sunday for $100:icon_mrgreen:

[ZeusSVT]

I fought with these two codes for the better part of a year probably when I first bought my truck. The truck never ran bad or anything, just would get these codes from time to time. I chased down vaccum hoses, tune, all that crap. It ended up being that little hose on the top of the EGR had kinda melted a hole in it and was not that noticeable. Terry sealed it up one weekend when we were putting a fan and suspension on my truck and I haven't had issues since then.

[tucamote]

Any one have Terrys number I tried the one on his web site but that does not work anymore.

[TXLIGHTNING]

Any one have Terrys number I tried the one on his web site but that does not work anymore. PM sent.

[0'Lightning]

Seriously doubt it. This is the Bank 1 / Bank 2 system lean codes. Most likely you have a vac line disconnected somewhere or an air leak somewhere from the MAF to the TB or a PCV valve/hose that is off or out of place.


What about a leak between the MAF and the intake? I was looking at my new LFP intake and noticed it had a 1-2mm gap between the MAF adapter and the MAF. I was thinking it wouldnt matter because the air hasnt passed a sensor at that point.... dunno. Im outside now trying to figure it out.

What yall think??

[TXLIGHTNING]

What about a leak between the MAF and the intake? I was looking at my new LFP intake and noticed it had a 1-2mm gap between the MAF adapter and the MAF. I was thinking it wouldnt matter because the air hasnt passed a sensor at that point.... dunno. Im outside now trying to figure it out.

What yall think?? There is supposed to be a gasket there :icon_eek:

[Mark #2]

What about a leak between the MAF and the intake? I was looking at my new LFP intake and noticed it had a 1-2mm gap between the MAF adapter and the MAF. I was thinking it wouldnt matter because the air hasnt passed a sensor at that point.... dunno. Im outside now trying to figure it out.

What yall think??
Maybe on the gap, disruptive air.

What changed, a new PCV, maybe the wrong one?

[01 bolt]

sounds awesome..... how can i get a hold of this terry guy????? where is he located? correct me if im incorrect: i want to do the 4lb lower pulley swap. is this what is needed to be done?

1.buy the 4lb pulley and mounting set of course.
2.change plugs to ngk tr6's gapped at .34???
3.get the pulley tune from the man! (terry)

anything im missing????? please inform...

[TXLIGHTNING]

sounds awesome..... how can i get a hold of this terry guy????? where is he located? correct me if im incorrect: i want to do the 4lb lower pulley swap. is this what is needed to be done?

1.buy the 4lb pulley and mounting set of course.
2.change plugs to ngk tr6's gapped at .34???
3.get the pulley tune from the man! (terry)

anything im missing????? please inform... That's about it. You wont need a SCT maf or injectors for a 4# upgrade :tu:

[01 bolt]

awesome..... how can i get ahold of terry and where is he located???

[L8 APEX]

Here is the stock timing table. The PCM allows up to 19 degrees on stock tuning. Plus 01-up are half a point leaner stock, 03-04 are almost a full point leaner on a pulley. Chris' stock 03 dynoed at 13.0 af on a 4# stock tune.

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/spark.JPG

As for me I am 90% fed up with flaky appointments and am not going out of my way to schedule new work. I have a full time job and commitments most weekends. I am in the process of moving across town for the next three weeks.

I may start taking PayPal deposits on any future work. I have been no-showed stood up for the last time.

[toddwarren]

Welcome back ole wise swami! :icon_mrgreen:

[01 bolt]

well......... i will soon need a tune done to my truck. i wont stand you up terry. sounds like your a good guy. from what i hear.

[slick-svt]

Terry would be your best bet, he has forgotten more the we'll ever learn. I put a 6lb on mine and used a Diablo predator tuner made 400hp and 500tq at the wheels. I also have a C&L upper and a single blade throttle body. There is a dyno shop in the Benbrook area called Simple Quick Racing where I had mine done I was able to do any adjustment before anything cratered. I think I paid 100.00 for two trucks on their dyno.

[Silver_2000]

Since Terrys forum contains some good info I added it back to the home page, but since he is doing the work part time did not reopen the section for new posts.

[TXLIGHTNING]

Since Terrys forum contains some good info I added it back to the home page, but since he is doing the work part time did not reopen the section for new posts. I noticed that Doug. Nice move :tu:

[BC Lightning]

Well I'm headed down to PSI this weekend to drop off my buddys truck to get tuned and some other stuff installed to it (fiberglass rear leafs, metco lowers, QA1s up front, possibly a 2.3 Whipple, and do other maintence items)

I've heard nothing but amazing things about Pat and PSI

[0'Lightning]

Well I'm headed down to PSI this weekend to drop off my buddys truck to get tuned and some other stuff installed to it (fiberglass rear leafs, metco lowers, QA1s up front, possibly a 2.3 Whipple, and do other maintence items)

I've heard nothing but amazing things about Pat and PSI

+1, I hear PSI is the bomb

[BC Lightning]

+1, I hear PSI is the bomb

I talked to Pat, and he said he might be able to drive up from Houston to dyno tune a few trucks. Ill talk with him again about it this weekend when I drop the truck off. If we get enough people we could have an entire day booked for him

[TP 112]

that would really save me a trip down there,but if not i will make the drive again well worth it.

[01 bolt]

once i do order and recieve the 4lb lower pulley. where is a good place to get it installed??? ive been told to do it myself but im no mechanic.

[CWJameson]

So could a 2000 Lightning run a 80 MM MAF and a 4lb lower pull reasonably safe on stock tuning?:icon_confused:

[tiffo60]

So could a 2000 Lightning run a 80 MM MAF and a 4lb lower pull reasonably safe on stock tuning?:icon_confused:


no:nono:

[Mark #2]

no:nono:
Ran a 90 MAF and a 4 lb on the stock 2000 tune.
Dyno charts proved that it was much safer than the chip I had it.

[charlie]

It was safer because of the fat AFR command @ high loads on the stock tune. And the not so aggressive timing

[CWJameson]

so it works on 01-04

but the 80mm maf and stock tuning shoudln't peg should it?

[Mark #2]

So could a 2000 Lightning run a 80 MM MAF and a 4lb lower pull reasonably safe on stock tuning?:icon_confused:

Yes

[CWJameson]

Thanks! ill try it and ill try to figure out how to data log... so i can double check :>

[01 bolt]

when getting a tune from terry do you have to bring any kind of handheld tuner with you? such as diablo, sct, etc......

[ZeusSVT]

when getting a tune from terry do you have to bring any kind of handheld tuner with you? such as diablo, sct, etc......

If you don't have one already. He can probably sell you a new one with his tunes.

[FRDRCING]

I would say if Patrick can come up here that would be a sweet deal. But if you make the trip down there to have him tune your truck, you won't regret the trip.

[BC Lightning]

I would say if Patrick can come up here that would be a sweet deal. But if you make the trip down there to have him tune your truck, you won't regret the trip.

My trip down to houston got postponed till next weekend, Pat at Quality needed the trailer i was going to borrow, so I will talk with Pat at PSI about a weekend trip up here to Dallas to tune a few trucks

[0'Lightning]

My trip down to houston got postponed till next weekend, Pat at Quality needed the trailer i was going to borrow, so I will talk with Pat at PSI about a weekend trip up here to Dallas to tune a few trucks

Any idea what they would charge to write some tunes?

[TXLIGHTNING]

Any idea what they would charge to write some tunes? It would prolly depend on how many trucks show if he makes the trip. The more trucks the cheaper the price.

[BC Lightning]

It would prolly depend on how many trucks show if he makes the trip. The more trucks the cheaper the price.

yup, the more trucks the cheaper, the only down side would be the amount of time he could spend per truck, the more trucks the less time, I forgot how much Jim charged when he came for a dyno tune day at Wells after Fun Ford Weekend at Ennis

Like I said I will talk to Pat and see if this is even a real possibilty, he said it might be on the phone last week, but things can always change

[tiffo60]

Ran a 90 MAF and a 4 lb on the stock 2000 tune.
Dyno charts proved that it was much safer than the chip I had it.

thats a 90mm though, an 80 will peg, I have done it............

[0'Lightning]

Terry sent me a cold tune this morning, wow what a difference!

[01 bolt]

ok so i do need a handheld tuner to give him. sorry for the dumb questions guys im a newb. what is a cold tune?

[BC Lightning]

ok so i do need a handheld tuner to give him. sorry for the dumb questions guys im a newb. what is a cold tune?

Last I heard Terry still had some handheld tuners.

Cold tune pulls the timing out of the une so that it is safer to run WOT in cold temps, since the cold air makes our trucks run lean

[01 bolt]

i see. thanx..... what does terry like tuning with???? any certain tuner?

[TXLIGHTNING]

i see. thanx..... what does terry like tuning with???? any certain tuner? SCT X-Cal only :tu:

[01 bolt]

plan on going to ennis on the 27th. 1st time to quarter mile. i ran a high 8.8 in 1/8 at kennedale. truck is stock. what kind of numbers should i expect? 13.9, 14.1 area? hopefully i stay in 13's. i will have new nitto drags on and ngk tr6's installed by then. what kind of preperations should i do to the truck before going? i thought maybe an intercooler cleaning?

[01 bolt]

wow..... this topic got quiet fast....... anyone there lol???????

[tiffo60]

I'll be at pinks the week before so that will be my trip to ennis for the month

[01 bolt]

have you ever ran the quarter? what mods are done to your truck?