View Full Version : Terrell Owens Gone
FRDRCING
03-05-2009, 12:54 AM
Finally TO is out of Dallas
Wht95Lightning
03-05-2009, 06:15 AM
Bout damn time. :hammer:
dboat
03-05-2009, 07:27 AM
Bad move, IMHO:mad:... I would have at least kept his for his last year of his contract... but we shall see..
Dana
BC Lightning
03-05-2009, 08:23 AM
Another bad move by the Cowboys :hammer:
dboat
03-05-2009, 08:44 AM
I will say that while I dont agree with the move.. IF, and its a big if, they can really open holes for their running backs, and Roy Williams, Jason Whitten, the other spare receivers can keep the defense honest enough, they might be able to pull it off.. but the TO factor on the field just didnt let the opposing defenses focus on the run game or the other receivers.. but we will need Felix Jones, Marion Barber, Jason Whitten, Roy Williams, to be healthy every single game.. and we know that is hard to do.
Dana
Beaudee
03-05-2009, 09:00 AM
Bad move, IMHO:mad:... I would have at least kept his for his last year of his contract... but we shall see..
Dana
Send him back to Philthadelphia and let the fans there take care of him:rll::throw:knanaOr keep him here and a good Texas old fashioned ass kicken would fix his attitude.Perfect example of how J.Jones hires the rif raff to save a buck and put it all into the new stadium in the worst traffic area.Dallas will never win another S. bowl with that jackass running the show.BLAHHHHHHHHHH
BC Lightning
03-05-2009, 10:41 AM
I will say that while I dont agree with the move.. IF, and its a big if, they can really open holes for their running backs, and Roy Williams, Jason Whitten, the other spare receivers can keep the defense honest enough, they might be able to pull it off.. but the TO factor on the field just didnt let the opposing defenses focus on the run game or the other receivers.. but we will need Felix Jones, Marion Barber, Jason Whitten, Roy Williams, to be healthy every single game.. and we know that is hard to do.
Dana
Exactly, I see none of them starting every game next year healthy
The way Marion Barber runs I'm surprised he hasn't had concussion yet, Roy Williams was a disappointment to say the least, Jason Witten can't carry the load by himself
So who does that leave us with, cause were not getting a first round pick in the draft thanks to the Roy Williams deal
And everyone keeps talking about T.O.'s attitude?? I'm yet to see anything that would "break up a team". What other receivers are going to put up the numbers that T.O. did
In2deep
03-05-2009, 10:54 AM
No way to open up a new stadium, Owens was the crowd pleaser and its way to late in the free agent market to replace him with anybody worth a damn!!
dboat
03-05-2009, 12:16 PM
What other receivers are going to put up the numbers that T.O. did
Patrick Crayton:rll:
ADale13
03-05-2009, 12:36 PM
i heard they released Roy Williams too??
dboat
03-05-2009, 12:42 PM
i heard they released Roy Williams too??
yes, the safety not the wide receiver..
ADale13
03-05-2009, 12:44 PM
yeah i didnt read into it much. i was wondering why they would pick him up one season and release him the next. so its the safety... gotcha.
BC Lightning
03-05-2009, 01:15 PM
A few interesting stats from ESPN:
T.O.
Rec.69
Rec. yds.1,052*
Yds./rec.15.2
Rec TD 10*
All Other Dallas Reciever
Rec. 73
Rec. yds. 1,050
Yds./rec. 14.4
Rec TD 8
*Led team
**Jason Witten, a tight end, has 81 receptions for 952 yards.
Anf you all are still saying this was a good idea?? To get rid of a guy who is putting up better numbers than all the combined Wide Recievers
Every player interviewed on TV or over the phone this morning said they wanted him back and there wasn't any drama in the locker room
0'Lightning
03-05-2009, 02:14 PM
Wish we could get rid of Jerry instead, there's more drama coming from him then any one on the cowboys IMO. With out Jerry we might have a good staff where players would listen to the couches rather then thinking that Jerry calls all the final shots. We defiantly should have kept TO, he’s come a long way in the maturity department since he got signed with the cowboys.
In2deep
03-05-2009, 06:33 PM
Cowboys-jerry=suberbowl
BC Lightning
03-05-2009, 07:29 PM
I don't think Jerry is a bad owner, most wouldn't have spent half as much as he has, but as GM he is malng bad moves, and getting rid of TO doesn't cure anything
If Romo can't throw to a reciever that put up the stats like TO did, and to it under pressure, how will he do it now with Roy Williams or Patrick Crayton
Another bad move by the Cowboys :hammer:The cowboys middle name is "bad news" as in Jerry Jones is the worst GM in the NFL. Kind of like a lawyer having himself for a client.
99WhiteBeast
03-06-2009, 03:48 PM
Only time will tell if this is a good move or not.
I don't think you can compare his stats to the rest of the team. Who is in there 99% of the time?
Who drops the ball on critical 3rd down conversions?
I agree about the TO factor and that opposing defenses have to consider him a threat at any time- that's a loss.
I lost all faith in him stirring it up 3 days before a critical game this year forcing the team focus away from the game with all his 'me' antics.
WA 2 FST
03-06-2009, 09:36 PM
A few interesting stats from ESPN:
T.O.
Rec.69
Rec. yds.1,052*
Yds./rec.15.2
Rec TD 10*
All Other Dallas Reciever
Rec. 73
Rec. yds. 1,050
Yds./rec. 14.4
Rec TD 8
*Led team
**Jason Witten, a tight end, has 81 receptions for 952 yards.
Anf you all are still saying this was a good idea?? To get rid of a guy who is putting up better numbers than all the combined Wide Recievers
Every player interviewed on TV or over the phone this morning said they wanted him back and there wasn't any drama in the locker room
I don't know whether it was a good move or not, but I'm glad to see him, Tank Johnson and Pacman Jones gone. You cannot count on people like that every day you go to work. TO didn't get into off-the-field trouble, but give me a break... it was a friggin' circus every week he has been here. That is a _huge_ distraction, even for the best of professionals, and even moreso for the younger players.
Certainly they are not as talented now at receiver, but the other receivers' numbers will certainly go up (by default possibly) b/c he's gone. How many times do you think another guy was open, but TO got the ball thrown to him b/c he is the biggest whiner a QB has to listen to?
Another thing... they didn't win one playoff game with him on the field. Now you could say that about a lot of the guys (all of them, actually), but they also aren't the distraction TO is. He may not have broken up the locker room, but there is no doubt the guy was a distraction to the team... from the overdose last year, to his constant public whining and complaining. Good riddence. They'll plug in someone else and we'll see what happens. It won't be easy, but "easy" wasn't getting them anything but a 9-7 record in the first place.
WA 2 FST
03-06-2009, 09:40 PM
I don't think Jerry is a bad owner, most wouldn't have spent half as much as he has, but as GM he is malng bad moves, and getting rid of TO doesn't cure anything
If Romo can't throw to a reciever that put up the stats like TO did, and to it under pressure, how will he do it now with Roy Williams or Patrick Crayton
I know this is going to sound like I'm just being a Romo fan, but most of the time he struggled was when he was lying flat on his back... getting hit all the time as he was making throws. The best QBs in the league cannot throw the ball well when they are getting put in a slingshot everytime they drop back to pass.
dboat
03-06-2009, 11:39 PM
I know this is going to sound like I'm just being a Romo fan, but most of the time he struggled was when he was lying flat on his back... getting hit all the time as he was making throws. The best QBs in the league cannot throw the ball well when they are getting put in a slingshot everytime they drop back to pass.
I agree 100% with you on this one.. he made his offensive line better because of his scrambling abilities.. with TO being gone, the O line which had shown it can run block (but not pass block) had better hope that all three running backs are healthy the entire year.. they will REALLY need Felix Jones to be able to play all year to provide the speed back to the offense.. it may be enough with the receivers they have and with a full off season hopefully, Roy Williams will be able to be integrated into the offense more than last season. IF Romo isnt put into too many "have to pass" situations, then he might even survive this next year..
Dana
BC Lightning
12-13-2009, 08:01 PM
Anyone still glad we got rid of TO?? :evil
Just proves that the problems are still there, and that you can't blame TO
WA 2 FST
12-13-2009, 08:44 PM
Yes, I can't stand T.O. They are money ahead, if nothing else...money that allowed them to make the D better (and it is).
Today they got beat by a better team. That happens. Next week will be the same story. If Folk was hitting routine FG's this year they'd probably be 9-4 or 10-3 at this point. He has killed them.
Not only that but the 4 in a row "off tackle right" calls at the goal line is absurd.
The end of the reign of the Pillsbury Doughboy is near. Bring on Shanahan or Holmgren.
gbgary
12-13-2009, 10:54 PM
Yes, I can't stand T.O. They are money ahead, if nothing else...money that allowed them to make the D better (and it is).
Today they got beat by a better team. That happens. Next week will be the same story. If Folk was hitting routine FG's this year they'd probably be 9-4 or 10-3 at this point. He has killed them.
Not only that but the 4 in a row "off tackle right" calls at the goal line is absurd.
The end of the reign of the Pillsbury Doughboy is near. Bring on Shanahan or Holmgren.
jerry jones would never let either one of those guys in the cowboys organization. they're both too strong and would want more control than he's ready to give up. jerry wants a puppet. being a Packers fan i hope wade hangs around for many more years.
BC Lightning
12-14-2009, 12:20 AM
I would still rather have TO over Roy Williams, the money they wasted on Roy could have been used to better the defense, plus they would have had draft picks. Having Miles Austin on one side and TO on the other would be dangerous for defensive secondaries.
Yes, is Folk hadn't of missed the field goal it might have been tied at the end of regulation, and probably could have been wins earlier in the season
Just frustrated that this is going to be another year without a playoff win :hammer:
In2deep
12-14-2009, 01:15 AM
I thought they should have never got rid of T.O... I cried when he was released.. I love u T.O... Come Home
BC Lightning
12-14-2009, 09:21 AM
I thought they should have never got rid of T.O... I cried when he was released.. I love u T.O... Come Home
His reality show is better than anything else out on TV now
99WhiteBeast
12-14-2009, 03:37 PM
That have lost a vertical passing game without TO but he's gone and won't be back. We have have other threats but with the predictable play calling we won't be fooling many defenses.
The cowboys have a lot woes besides the deep passing game. IF and a big IF make to the playoffs they will not make it far putting up 10 to 20 points a game:mad:
WA 2 FST
12-14-2009, 04:01 PM
They don't have a vertical passing game b/c their O-line is not great at pass blocking. Does Tony Romo _ever_ have the kind of time Rivers does? No, he's always having to bob-n-weave after 3 seconds. You can't run a lot of vertical routes when your QB is getting flushed, if not sacked.
I think they have plenty of speed at WR, and guys that have above-average hands. It's hard to speak for the route-running b/c that takes more than the average eye to be able to see problems there. Most of that probably depends on how the defense plays you anyway (physical, bump-n-run vs. zone or soft, man-to-man).
Going into yesterdays game, I read and heard a stat that said the Cowboys offense had piled up more yards in the first 12 games than ANY offense in the history of the franchise. That's amazing. What they don't have is much finishing power inside the opponents' 30 yd line. Thus, they don't score points like they should.
toddwarren
12-14-2009, 04:47 PM
The team plays with no sense of urgency, the opponenet the last two weeks acted like they wanted to win a little worse than we did.
Wade Phillips is a Buffoon, soft man, who is non insprational.
Jerry Jones is a great owner who SUX as General Manager.
Nick Folk has lost his mojo and this was apparent back 4 weeks prior, but they let him hang around and cost us a couple games thinking he would come back.
The defense cant stop anyone when it is nut cutting 4th quarter time.
Gee I feel better now, have a nice day guys!:icon_eek:
dboat
12-14-2009, 08:33 PM
They don't have a vertical passing game b/c their O-line is not great at pass blocking. Does Tony Romo _ever_ have the kind of time Rivers does? No, he's always having to bob-n-weave after 3 seconds. You can't run a lot of vertical routes when your QB is getting flushed, if not sacked.
I think they have plenty of speed at WR, and guys that have above-average hands. It's hard to speak for the route-running b/c that takes more than the average eye to be able to see problems there. Most of that probably depends on how the defense plays you anyway (physical, bump-n-run vs. zone or soft, man-to-man).
Going into yesterdays game, I read and heard a stat that said the Cowboys offense had piled up more yards in the first 12 games than ANY offense in the history of the franchise. That's amazing. What they don't have is much finishing power inside the opponents' 30 yd line. Thus, they don't score points like they should.
The team plays with no sense of urgency, the opponenet the last two weeks acted like they wanted to win a little worse than we did.
Wade Phillips is a Buffoon, soft man, who is non insprational.
Jerry Jones is a great owner who SUX as General Manager.
Nick Folk has lost his mojo and this was apparent back 4 weeks prior, but they let him hang around and cost us a couple games thinking he would come back.
The defense cant stop anyone when it is nut cutting 4th quarter time.
Gee I feel better now, have a nice day guys!:icon_eek:
Well you are both right because going into yesterdays game they had the 3rd rated offense.. I dont blame Romo, he is moving the team.. but 4 runs off right tackle at the goal line aint getting it done.. the Offensive Coordinator is wearing the emporers clothes in that everyone seems to know what we are doing.. if the Boys were smart, they would hire Charlie Weiss since he was dumped by Notre Dame and make him the OC..
Dana
99WhiteBeast
12-14-2009, 09:59 PM
I agree with your comments on the O-line Wes and those that the defense is better. On paper they are good team but I heard a stat today that is mind boggling.
They have allowed 24 3rd down conversions when the opponent needed 10+ yards to convert- that is horrific:icon_exclaim:
WA 2 FST
12-14-2009, 11:49 PM
I agree with your comments on the O-line Wes and those that the defense is better. On paper they are good team but I heard a stat today that is mind boggling.
They have allowed 24 3rd down conversions when the opponent needed 10+ yards to convert- that is horrific:icon_exclaim:
Wow... yeah, that's horrible. Yikes!
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