Shelbys suck

[L8 APEX]

Other than looking pretty and making blower whine, they are a waste of gas:evil
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[gagspa]

Did I misunderstand, or did they say that the best that they could do in the 1/4 was 12.8? :eek2: I don't believe that for a second.

[Beaudee]

I love the looks of the Shelbys.KR's are the top of the bunch.In a 1/4 mile i dont think a stock GT500 can get out of the 13's on a hot day. http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24223

[G'Lightning]

damn...did he say 82K for the KR?...Come on i love Ford but seriously. Cant hang with a Z06..probaly not a stock 08' vette either.

[Sandman]

Supposedly the 2010 Shelby GT500 is built off last years Shelby GT500KR.
http://jalopnik.com/5199679/2010-shelby-gt500-first-drive

Like the 2010 Ford Mustang GT, this new GT500 isn't an all-new car, but rather an extreme development of the previous platform. That old 2007 Shelby GT500 set the world alight with its 500 HP, 480 Lb-Ft 5.4-liter supercharged V8, offering an unprecedented level of straight line performance — running the quarter mile in the low 12-second range — for just $41,675. But it was a one trick pony, floating with dangerous imprecision around corners and offering very little feel on its way to spinning at the slightest provocation. Driving that car was an exercise in point and shoot: slam on the brakes, drive slowly around the corner, then stomp on the gas once the steering's pointed straight. According to both Ray and Ford representatives, I'm the only person in the world who actually liked its kill-you-at-the-slightest-mistake personality.

This 2010 model couldn't be any more different. Starting with the $79,995 2009 Shelby GT500KR, Ford's SVT engineering team set out to make a friendlier, faster package that could defy its muscle car roots and genuinely compete, in more than a straight line, with real super cars costing many times its $48,175 price tag. Compared to its predecessor, the new GT500 gains stiffer springs both front and rear along with firmer damping, intended to reduce roll in corners, dive under braking and squat under acceleration. New 19" wheels and bespoke Goodyear F1 Supercar tires boost grip. Revised aerodynamics mean downforce is up and drag is down. Thanks to a cold air intake and other tweaks, power and torque are up 40 HP and 30 Lb-Ft, respectively. Combined with a change in rear differential ratio from 3.31 to 3.55 and longer fifth and sixth gears, acceleration is improved from 4.6 to 4.3 seconds to 60 MPH and fuel economy on the highway is boosted 2 MPG to 22 MPG.

[L8 APEX]

I have seen two Roush 427's in Dallas this week a white one and a 2010 blue one.

[Shiner1]

damn...did he say 82K for the KR?...Come on i love Ford but seriously. Cant hang with a Z06..probaly not a stock 08' vette either.


Yep. When I bought my Taurus about a month ago there were 2 on the showroom floor. 82K!!

[Sandman]

I saw a KR in Denton on the showroom floor for that price. They said it had been sitting there for ~6 months.

[toddwarren]

Thats awful for the money!! heck with some slicks on the Harley I could give a stock one a run for its money!:eek:

[WA 2 FST]

MM&FF got an 11.9 @ 120+mph out of a stock 2010, I believe. Granted, that was back in the northeast, I'm sure.

12.8s is a poor driver, I think... but that's just me. I have never driven a stock one, and I'd imagine with 150rwhp less, I wouldn't be happy with mine either.

I drove my brother's '09 CTS-V the other day. That's a SWEET car.

Oh... and there is a local dealer offering an '09 KR for $68k now... still way too much $$, but not close to the $82k some are talking about.

[Ohmsby]

The Shelby is arguably the flagship of the Ford performance line and when weighed and measured finds itself wanting in both price and performance

Wes I know you have one of these in your stable and after the mod bug like most of your rides it is a respectable piece of Hot rod goodness but from the factory the Shelby name IMHO should warrant more performance

[WA 2 FST]

John,

I think comparing a 2-seat sports car to a 4-seat "pony" car is useless. The only reason they are testing these is b/c Ford decided to milk the public with the "KR" version, so the price is comparable to a Z06... but the '08 KR is slower than the standard '10 GT500 (of which a few, with just slicks bolted on are running high-11s bone stock).

Run a GT500 vs. a Camaro SS or Challenger SRT-8, which fully loaded all are in the same ballpark price-wise , especially given the latter two are being marked up over MSRP... and its a different game.

Everything "Shelby" has been watered down since the '60s. In my mind its a gimmick to get the average yahoo to consider buying the car, nothing more, but then again I'm not very nostalgic.

However, if I had to choose one car it would not be the one I would have in my garage, though. I'd choose my Z06, or a new Z06.

[Sixpipes]

The KR is not built for driving. It is a limited production collector's car (500 units I think) for show guys. Anybody that buys one and puts a lot of miles on it is going to take a financial bath. It is a nice looking car though.

[Beaudee]

The KR is not built for driving. It is a limited production collector's car (500 units I think) for show guys. Anybody that buys one and puts a lot of miles on it is going to take a financial bath. It is a nice looking car though.

Copy that.I seen my buds gt 500 with tune,4 lb pulley,race gas/drag radials go down the track and ruin transmission,cluth problems with only a few passes/10k miles and some were in view of my tailgate.:rll:You can get a bunch more car for the money,not saying i dont love the looks and the shelby.As far as a racer forget it.Best Ford racer is the 03/04 Cobra,Terry can correct me if im wrong but 650+RWHP on a tuned pulleyed stock block can be a reliable dailey driver let alone a good racer.I think 03/04 was the best year for Ford with the Mustang and the Truck/ Lightning.

[BC Lightning]

GT500 with a 4.0L Whipple and built block


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V3nWSFsM1o&feature=player_embedded

[ZeusSVT]

Seen a 2010 GT 500 the other day. Damn that is a sexy car. :D

[WA 2 FST]

Stock '10 GT500 ... only mod is slicks. Here is the timeslip:

1.656/7.328/11.368/123.89 100% stock on slicks Napierville Dragway

So, I guess having the ability to bolt on some slicks and run low-11s is not very good. Granted, this is in really good air, but even in crappy air, its a high-11 second car with slicks, and a low-12 second car with stock tires.

Granted, the car is not cheap (can be had for low, mid-$40s brand new), but with the mod potential it is easy to make them go fast and do so very reliably. The motor will withstand more than the 4.6 Terminators. It's just a heavy car (so is the Challenger and Camaro) in comparison, but a significantly _better_ car with regards to build quality.

[toddwarren]

Well Wes yours is not stock, what will yours run then????

Dont tell me you still have not gone to the track at least once!

[WA 2 FST]

Well Wes yours is not stock, what will yours run then????

Dont tell me you still have not gone to the track at least once!

I have absolutely no time to go to the track. Every weekend is booked til my kids get out of high school... I have come to that conclusion. The ones that are not officially booked; well, I like to take some time off and relax doing other things.

Right now is the beginning of club volleyball season. Once that's over, summer baseball will start.

I'm not complaining. I actually enjoy it a lot... just doesn't leave any time for the track right now.

[Silver_2000]

Stock '10 GT500 ... only mod is slicks. Here is the timeslip:

1.656/7.328/11.368/123.89 100% stock on slicks Napierville Dragway

So, I guess having the ability to bolt on some slicks and run low-11s is not very good. Granted, this is in really good air, but even in crappy air, its a high-11 second car with slicks, and a low-12 second car with stock tires.

Granted, the car is not cheap (can be had for low, mid-$40s brand new), but with the mod potential it is easy to make them go fast and do so very reliably. The motor will withstand more than the 4.6 Terminators. It's just a heavy car (so is the Challenger and Camaro) in comparison, but a significantly _better_ car with regards to build quality.
Im confused

inst an 11.3 a low 11 ?
Or maybe you mean it will never run it here

[WA 2 FST]

Ok, mid-11s. It's an 11.3, which is faster than 11.5-11.6 which is a mid-11 in my book.

I should have said, "I guess that running 11.3s is not very good..." :)

Sorry... I'm just frustrated b/c the weather stinks and I'm tired of driving a slow truck around

[toddwarren]

Repo your sons truck from him (LOL) Hey you can buy one of these G1s around here for sale, and rod it up and be back in the game.

[WA 2 FST]

Yeah there are some neat G1's, and my son's G2 will wipe the floor with my Ram QC.

[L8 APEX]

The 09's I drove felt like mid 13 sec cars in Texas. They felt exactly like a 6 spd "Lightning" car. The lethargic feel, handling and braking is embarrassing. Especially to have the name Shelby on it...

This reminds me of the stock 10 second C5 Z06 runs posted from Atco with below sea level AD's....:evil
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[L8 APEX]

Now this is fast for under 40k...
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[WA 2 FST]

Comparing a new, showroom stock car to anything that was a "previous year model" is completely unfair.

If you don't like the Shelby, then you also think the Challenger SRT-8 and new Camaro with the LS3 suck too. The Shelby will waste both of those cars, and is cheaper to mod to go fast.

To me, when I think of "Shelby" I think of the old '66 2-seater "Cobras".

So call it whatever you want... and yeah, I'm sure the car I posted was run at a good DA. It's in Canada.

[98Cobra]

Plus, the 2010 cars are supposed to be quite an improvement over the 09, from what I have read.

[WA 2 FST]

Plus, the 2010 cars are supposed to be quite an improvement over the 09, from what I have read.

They are. 540hp (from the FRPP CAI and more aggressive tune) from the factory vs. 500hp. Plus since they utilize knock sensors, they can run a more aggressive timing/fuel map under more conditions, whereas on the '07-09, timing gets cut very quickly once temps rise. They also have more gear than the older cars. so its a win-win.

Making an '07-09 perform just like a '10 model is extremely simple and doesn't cost much at all. Granted, it would not be considered "bone stock" any longer, I understand that.

These cars in the hands of an average driver are running low-12s @ 117-118mph in all types of weather conditions. To give some perspective (since the GT500 is being compared to a 2-seater) ... my '02 Z06 ran 12.3 @ 116 stock (stock tires, too) and I paid $45k for it new back in Jan. '02.

I think this argument here would be a moot point if it were not for the "Shelby" name which has everyone's panties in a wad. honestly, I couldn't care less what they call it. It's the new version of the smash-hit, Terminator Cobra, and it responds exactly the same way, if not better, to modifications, while maintaining a far superior ride and build quality. And if anyone remembers those cars when they were stock; here in Texas you were lucky to run 13.0 @ 107mph in a bone stock Termie. A bone stock '07-09 GT500 will do that missing 2nd gear on the drive down the strip, and taking inflation into account, it costs the same as an '03-'04 Cobra...unless someone was foolish enough to pay a $10k premium over MSRP to have one of the first '07s out there.

[Silver_2000]

To give some perspective (since the GT500 is being compared to a 2-seater) ... my '02 Z06 ran 12.3 @ 116 stock (stock tires, too) and I paid $45k for it new back in Jan. '02.


So a Z06 has nearly doubled in price since 02 ? ( current base MSRP $74,285) :eek2:

[L8 APEX]

Yep, it is a whole different car. In the C5 they just did, heads, cam, exhaust, wheels, scoops. to a stock C5. The new C6 Zo6 has the 427, brakes, wide body kit etc...

[WA 2 FST]

Yep, it is a whole different car. In the C5 they just did, heads, cam, exhaust, wheels, scoops. to a stock C5. The new C6 Zo6 has the 427, brakes, wide body kit etc...

Yes, Terry is right... the C5 car was an upgrade over a stock C5, but nothing like the difference in a C6 vs. Z06 now. Also, the C5 Z06 stickered for ~$50-51k, which was still below a fully-loaded C5 'vert at the time.

[L8 APEX]

The only thing worse than a GT500 is a convertible GT500. :vomit::D

[WA 2 FST]

Thx Terry. I love you, too. :P

[L8 APEX]

Hey, everyone needs a bad weather car right:D. I blame your red parade mobile on your age:beer:.

[Beaudee]

Saw a new 2012 Shelby,i like the way the car stands.It was all stock,maybe a roush???Looks diff from the first models.Love the snake logo.what do they run in the 1/4 now??

[Silver_2000]

the new cobras seem pretty impressive

Wes needs to update his email address if he is going to subscribe to updates from this thread

[L8 APEX]

I have been eying the 2013 Shelby. The car has come a long way from 2007 when I built my first one. I bet they are still nose heavy and feel sluggish compared to a vette or such. But at least with 650hp they can roll it up faster. It has a lot of style and the seats are sweet.

[99WhiteBeast]

RIP Caroll Shelby

http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/05/legendary-racer-car-builder-ca.html