A handheld Lightning??

[dboat]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-lightning-the-ultimate-windows-phone-7-device-leaks-out/

Dana

[Sandman]

Yup. I think Windows Phone 7 might make a reasonable contender to the IPhone. It won't happen over night, but I think MS has some pretty cool ideas on this one. They are really focusing on trying to give a excellent user experience across the platform rather than a platform that is driven by the apps available for it.

I've already downloaded the sdk and the development fairly easy. They finally gave the windows mobile world a some of what the desktop world has had for years in terms of development.

[Silver_2000]

Windows mobile devices have generally sucked - all of them
The sync software sucked - back in the day windows mobile drove people to Palm since palm worked

In my opinion it will be VERY difficult to shoehorn Windows 7 into a mobiile device and then let others make the device and be profitable

The apple advantage is that Apple designed and is the ONLY one building the devices AND they designed the OS to run on a mobile device, they didnt take a bloated OS device and shave stuff off till it fits in a mobile device

then there is the cool factor

Look at the Zune - its crap - the hardware is crap - the software is crap - its NOT a cool looking device that makes you want to pick it up, and finally it was priced within 10-20% of the competition which for what it is is TOO high

[Sandman]

Yeah, heard those arguments before, but I don't think they hold up.

BTW, WP7 was built from the ground up for a mobile platform, and while MS isn't owning the hardware itself, there will be minimum requirements. Don't count MS out just yet ;)

[Silver_2000]

Yeah, heard those arguments before, but I don't think they hold up.

BTW, WP7 was built from the ground up for a mobile platform, and while MS isn't owning the hardware itself, there will be minimum requirements. Don't count MS out just yet ;)

So you are saying the 8th or 9th version will be the one ...


3.1 Pocket PC 2000
3.2 Pocket PC 2002
3.3 Windows Mobile 2003
3.4 Windows Mobile 2003 SE
3.5 Windows Mobile 5
3.6 Windows Mobile 6
3.7 Windows Mobile 6.1
3.8 Windows Mobile 6.5
3.9 Windows Mobile 6.5.1
3.10 Windows Mobile 6.5.3
3.11 Windows Mobile 6.5.5

LOL :rll::rll:

Keep in mind Im a Windows Admin by Trade

[Sandman]

Ever hear of the Newton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_%28platform%29):rll:? Probably not. I think Apple worked on it for ~ 9 years.

Microsoft has been updating WM for about 9 years as well. Did they knock it out of the park, probably not. They didn't need to. At the time they had the market cornered. The Newton, Symbol.. come on. Palm? They barely keep their heads above the water. RIM was the only real contender, and they targeted a different audience. The IPhone really did jump start a revolution for the industry. So now, we'll see what MS is made of. Even now, there are plenty of applications where WM is far superior to the IPhone.

Don't get me wrong, the IPhone is a good device. Good hardware, sexy software, and a good user experience. I got one for my wife.

The thing about competition, it's usually the consumer that wins.

Keep in mind I'm a developer by trade.. My specialty, mobile devices :tu:

[Silver_2000]

all my Windows Admin buddies tried the WM devices and then dumped them ...some a couple of times - some of us go free ones - even then they weren't loved. More of a begrudging relationship

[98Cobra]

WM7 is not the same thing as Windows 7. What it is though, is a break from the old Windows Mobile ecosystem - because the OS is such a rewrite, existing apps that work on 6.5 will not work on WM7. Again, this is not shoehorning Windows 7 onto a phone, its completely different.

Also, I have a Zune HD (won it in a contest last year) and love it. Its infintely better than its predecessor. The only thing it has against it IMO is needing the Zune software to sync, which is the same crutch the iPod has w/iTunes.

[Sandman]

all my Windows Admin buddies tried the WM devices and then dumped them ...some a couple of times - some of us go free ones - even then they weren't loved. More of a begrudging relationship

Eh, different strokes for different folks.. maybe it's just the times. Until recently the hardware wasn't really there to really let the devices shine. I still have friends that happily run WM.


Also, I have a Zune HD (won it in a contest last year) and love it. Its infintely better than its predecessor. The only thing it has against it IMO is needing the Zune software to sync, which is the same crutch the iPod has w/iTunes. That's a nice device. I assume you use ZunePass as well? I really like ZunePass. Not sure why MS doesn't market it better.

[Shiner1]

What in the hell did you guys just say????:rll: All kidding aside. New gadgets are cool. I need a phone called a Lightning. The only thing better would be a another phone called the Lightning then I could get the original version and call it the Gen 1. :d

[98Cobra]

Actually I dont have a ZunePass - if I didnt have satellite radio in the cars I would though. Its a good deal.

[dboat]

What in the hell did you guys just say????:rll: All kidding aside. New gadgets are cool. I need a phone called a Lightning. The only thing better would be a another phone called the Lightning then I could get the original version and call it the Gen 1. :d

Since this offering is the first one, its a Gen 1... then when there is an upgrade you can then buy a Gen 2....

Dana

[Sandman]

Wouldn't be funny if it wasn't true.

http://i.imgur.com/RdcuT.jpg

[mikelemoine]

I used WM devices (Ipaq) for business for many years from the Aero 1550 with CE 2.0 to the later Ipaq devices with WM 5.x. I liked them all for what they were, but the Activesynch was always hit or miss.

The thing I really didn't like about WM devices was that switching hardware required different software, even if the OS was the same. For example if I had my work software running on a Dell handheld with WM 5.0 and switched to an Ipaq with WM 5.0, I had to get a different version of the work software to be compatible with the different units. The programs were processor specific, unlike PC Windows where Windows XP programs run on all XP machines (mostly). I suppose its the same with the other brands now, as you can't easily reload your apps from one device to another anyway.

It will be interesting to see what they come out with. At least it will push the other big guys to keep developing and competing so we can get new toys to play with.

[Sandman]

http://wmpoweruser.com/the-telegraph-microsoft-have-a-genuine-chance-at-challenging-apple/

[nateusmcsvt]

Wouldn't be funny if it wasn't true.

http://i.imgur.com/RdcuT.jpg

wow!:rll: