OK guys, what is the best home computer?

[J.D. Blackwell]

Fixing to close on my house this week. I was looking for a computer. I saw an infomercial on this the other night and it looks bada$$. www.tigertv.com

Now remember guys, I am a blue-collar Redneck that lives in Northeast Texas and I have no idea what any of that $hit means when someone says Gigabyte and stuff like that. Just a warning.

Thanks for any info,
XOXO

:hammer:

[cpeapea]

i always fancied dells for factory built machines, i prefer to build my own, but any factory direct machine is pretty good, ie dell and gateway. this machine looks pretty decent, but kinda pricey for me, but i do like the window. i put one on my water cooled pc with a black light, looks really cool

[J.D. Blackwell]

Originally posted by cpeapea
i always fancied dells for factory built machines, i prefer to build my own, but any factory direct machine is pretty good, ie dell and gateway. this machine looks pretty decent, but kinda pricey for me, but i do like the window. i put one on my water cooled pc with a black light, looks really cool


Pricey? I believe they only want $1599 for the package. I don't think that is pricey.

[Silver_2000]

If you buy a computer form Tiger TV do me a BIG favor and dont call me when it breaks... I have seen the too good to be true ads on Late night TV... I would stay away...

Doug

[J.D. Blackwell]

Originally posted by Silver_2000_;)!
If you buy a computer form Tiger TV do me a BIG favor and dont call me when it breaks... I have seen the too good to be true ads on Late night TV... I would stay away...

Doug


Will stay away then......Well what do you suggest?

[Crawford]

Justin,
Buy a Dell. They rock. End of story.

[tliss]

...XOXO



Hugs and kisses will get you nowhere with me, sugar! :nono:

I've got an HP Pavilion at home and a Dell workstation at work. Both are good machines IMO. My brother-in-law has a Sony Vaio desktop that kicks a$$ as well (he paid $3500 for it too!).

Tom

[Logan]

Buy Dell. Their service, support, prices and value for the money are hard to beat.

Take that from a guy who spends over $1.2 million a year with them...Well, not me personally, but my company. I only spend about $200k a year for my stuff.

[devildog92]

Originally posted by Logan
Buy Dell. Their service, support, prices and value for the money are hard to beat.

Take that from a guy who spends over $1.2 million a year with them...Well, not me personally, but my company. I only spend about $200k a year for my stuff.

I agree. I have a 2 Dells, and its nothing but quality. Other manufacturers actually GLUE their components together (I won't say which ones, sorry). Can't go wrong with that set-up.

[cpeapea]

oh i just saw the retail price, i also have a sony and it does kick major ass, it also has no proprietary crap hardware, except the sound card that doesnt work in linux but thats ok cuz you are a windoz user anyhow. the sound card is a built in(motherboard) aureal vortex which kicked ass when it came out, and still does a pretty good job.

[dboat]

But,
dude save your money and go get an emachine at Best Buy or Fry's.. they will do what you want and for a fraction of the price of a Dell, HP or Compaq.. you can get a whole system for about $500, with monitor and speakers and printer.. unless you are a power user, you will be fine with this..
Dana

Let the flaming begin:throw:

[Silver_2000]

Dana is the first one to ask the right question..

What are you gonna use it for ?

If you are gonna write a letter or 2, do email and surf porn the cheapest computer you can find will work fine.

If you want to do video editing or HEAVY graphics or something then get a better one. If you are gonna spend $500 or more to buy computer games then you need to spend $1500 or more to get a decent gaming computer.

I bought my first PC in 8 or so years and got a dell. BUT the deals they have on Sonys and some of the other BIG brands arent bad IF you are looking for a screamer.

Spend AT least 1/2 your money on the Video output. That means get a decent video card ( 64 mb of ram ) and a BIG monitor ( 19 inch or 17 inch if LCD flat panel ) . Very few people who have a good monitor and a fast internet connection think thier computer sucks. They rate the computer based on what they see and how fast it is .. The perception of speed is largely based on the internet connection speed.

[dboat]

Originally posted by Silver_2000_;)!
Dana is the first one to ask the right question..

What are you gonna use it for ?

If you are gonna write a letter or 2, do email and surf porn the cheapest computer you can find will work fine.

If you want to do video editing or HEAVY graphics or something then get a better one. If you are gonna spend $500 or more to buy computer games then you need to spend $1500 or more to get a decent gaming computer.

I bought my first PC in 8 or so years and got a dell. BUT the deals they have on Sonys and some of the other BIG brands arent bad IF you are looking for a screamer.

Spend AT least 1/2 your money on the Video output. That means get a decent video card ( 64 mb of ram ) and a BIG monitor ( 19 inch or 17 inch if LCD flat panel ) . Very few people who have a good monitor and a fast internet connection think thier computer sucks. They rate the computer based on what they see and how fast it is .. The perception of speed is largely based on the internet connection speed.


maybe I am not as much of a dumba$$ as I thought I was..
I have DSL and a 17" lcd monitor.. I dont surf porn, but i do about 3 forums and a fair number of websites, along with MS Office.. so mine is great.. the wife built if for me.. its about her 5th one to build.. she works in IT.. I love her..

anyway, Doug is right.. buy it for what you are going to use it for.. just went through this with a co-worker.. saved him a bundle because he was gonna get all this stuff and all he was going to do was Word.. and he wanted a fast printer because he doesnt like to wait for the printout.. so he bought one of those cheap Samsung laser printers.. he loves it..

Good Luck
Dana

[Crawford]

Here you go:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/offers/specials_3x_special61.htm

$599... cant beat that!

[03sonicblue]

I love my dell!

[tliss]

Originally posted by Silver_2000_;)!
If you are gonna write a letter or 2, do email and surf porn the cheapest computer you can find will work fine.


There's porn on the Internet? I've been looking at the wrong web sites!! Damn these Lightning pages!:p

Tom

[dboat]

Originally posted by tliss
There's porn on the Internet? I've been looking at the wrong web sites!! Damn these Lightning pages!:p

Tom

Only at Dougs house...


uhhhh Righhht... LOL:d

[Silver_2000]

Originally posted by Crawford
Here you go:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/offers/specials_3x_special61.htm

$599... cant beat that!

Crawford found a good deal there for a first computer

Not sure if this link will work but I customized it a litlle

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?CS=19&kc=6V771&oc=D23TVF&view=1

For $60 I changed XP home to XP pro . XP pro is $200 if you want to upgrade later.... I also replaced the regular DVD with a CDR so you can write cds for $10 more.

Total after $100 mail in rebate is now $669... It is a heck of a system for $669 ...

You will NEED antivirus software and a good surge protector or a cheap UPS.

The monitor upgrade and memory upgrade end tomorrow...
Theer wiill be other deals but THOSE specific deal end tomorrow

Doug

[Logan]

Damn, that is a hella deal.

[Badcarma]

I built all of mine, except for my laptop, so I would have what I wanted on it.:)


My .02 Scott...........

[Wht95Lightning]

Originally posted by tliss
There's porn on the Internet? I've been looking at the wrong web sites!! Damn these Lightning pages!:p

Tom

Here ya go. Now you can have it all on the lightning pages.
http://webpages.charter.net/silverspurs21/SS/smiles/boobies.gif http://webpages.charter.net/silverspurs21/SS/smiles/whip.gif

[J.D. Blackwell]

Thanks for the info guys. You know I am not going to be doing nothing but checking e-mail and writin letters so I just need a simple computer.


Later
:beer:

[tliss]

Originally posted by Wht95Lightning
Here ya go. Now you can have it all on the lightning pages.
http://webpages.charter.net/silverspurs21/SS/smiles/boobies.gif http://webpages.charter.net/silverspurs21/SS/smiles/whip.gif

Cool! Every board needs a smiley with knockers!

Tom

[George G.]

Not that I would actually buy one, but apparently Wal-mart is selling a computer that AOL and some wack company called Linux got together and have a computer package for about 200 bucks. I think you have to supply the monitor. It comes with Lindows, instead of Windows. My company bought one to evaluate. It doesn't come with a floppy drive, we attempted to format it and install Windows but I don't think it was successful. It has since retired to the dungeon.

Lindows...what were they thinking?

[cpeapea]

dude linux rules if you have the patience to learn it, it has far more useabilitly most of the software for it is free, very powerful and harldy every crashes (my linux box has been up and running and never restarted for well over a year now). and its called X-windows. but its not for the faint of heart, very complicated.

also fyi, linux is not a company its an OS created by a bunch of hackers modeled after Unix, its also freeware

[StormShadow]

I went with the BobbyWade computer mod. He can tell you the specifics but all I know is that its a fast mother sucker!

[Wht95Lightning]

WTF? This thread is almost 2 years old. :confused:

[jim woods]

If you are just a simple user ,internet and general programs. I would get the computer from Sams club.Why there? They have a 6 month return policy,no restocking fee.You can return it on the very last day of the 6 month and just say you was trying it out and you will get a no hassel refund.This would be the best way to buy a computer for non savy computer person.

[LonghornLightning]

I'm all for building my own. Nothing beats these college prices either..
I would agree with everyone else is you're not building you own (using pricewatch.com) go with Dell b/c you'll always be able to take the person from india when you have problems 24/7. :d

if anybody wants something for cheap lemme know....I can only get 1 copy of anything and of course i've already used my windows..

[bobbywade69]

I can also help you out too! I can build one on the side if you would like and also have all the programs you will need. I just build one for Adam last week, he got a pretty damn fast one for under 800 bucks! It is a P4 3.4Ghs 800 front side bus, with 1g 400mz ddr, 125ddr 8x agp video, 80g hard drive, dvd burner and pretty nice case.:tu:

[LonghornLightning]

I can also help you out too! I can build one on the side if you would like and also have all the programs you will need. I just build one for Adam last week, he got a pretty damn fast one for under 800 bucks! It is a P4 3.4Ghs 800 front side bus, with 1g 400mz ddr, 125ddr 8x agp video, 80g hard drive, dvd burner and pretty nice case.:tu:
:eek2:

:bows Building or finding someone you know to build one is the best way. Stays up to date for longer, cheaper to build...just better all around, I can't see myself every buying a packaged computer unless it's for my woman some day ;p

[Silver_2000]

:eek2:

:bows Building or finding someone you know to build one is the best way. Stays up to date for longer, cheaper to build...just better all around, I can't see myself every buying a packaged computer unless it's for my woman some day ;p

I disagree 100%

There is no way you can match the value $ for $ of a decent PC made by Dell.

The ONLY way the build your owns even come close is by using hardware you already own and by stealing software or using freeware. Windows XP Home is $200 by itself. And you have to assume your time is free - LOTs and LOTS of your time is free. Many times if you have hardware incompatibilities you end up eating the part that doesnt work or eating the restock fee.

If something goes wrong the vendors point fingers at each other.

Ill be happy to do a line by line comparison with anyone ....
Doug

[bobbywade69]

Building a computer doesn't take that much time I can build one in about 3-4 hours with all programs and updates installed, I've build 100's of computers and only had 3 hardware conflicts ( because the part was bad). Yes you can get a dell cheaper that can almost match a built computers speed, but a built computer has soo many more upgrades, performance and compatility than most manifactored computers. But everyone has there own opinions.:D

[REXRENEGADE]

Dell XPS ! :tu:

[my2002lightning]

:ron::cool:

[StormShadow]

Apu on the phone :hammer: Keep the jobs in America.:flaming:

[Silver_2000]

Building a computer doesn't take that much time I can build one in about 3-4 hours with all programs and updates installed, I've build 100's of computers and only had 3 hardware conflicts ( because the part was bad). Yes you can get a dell cheaper that can almost match a built computers speed, but a built computer has soo many more upgrades, performance and compatility than most manifactored computers. But everyone has there own opinions.:D

You need to add up ALL the time and ALL the costs. All the HOURS spent researching which parts go with which and which are compatible - ALL the trips to frys or whereever to get that last missing piece. As far as upgrades and compatibility thats an old wives tale. Unless you buy a weird case or a small PC that is built into the monitor or something the PCs are built from largely standard parts. I upgraded the memory, video card and the processor in my Dell no problem. I also added a second hard drive. The CD drives would be an easy upgrade - What else is left ?

If you are doing it yourself and you enjoy it then great - Have fun -
But dont try to convince newbies that they will get a better PC experience - cheaper by building it themselves. Those days are gone.

[Silver_2000]

But Doug, look at this
"Dell moved product support for business accounts from India back to the U.S. It seems some customers were not happy with the prior arrangement.

Dell can assemble and ship a new computer for a customer in 24 hours. But it took six months for the company to get Karen Anderson's name right. Anderson, who lives in Calistoga, Calif., endured dozens of phone calls before Dell issued her a promised $200 rebate for a computer she ordered last October. Dell also gave her the wrong Internet service provider. And her printer broke. "I just want to scream when I see Dell's TV commercials," Anderson fumes."

Also, "Any improvements would be welcome news for Daniel Summars, a Lewisville, Tex. software engineer who says that over 24 months he had 21 part failures or replacements in the same Dell notebook model; Dell replaced it twice. "I submitted it to the Guinness World Records," he says. "

The article from Forbes.com : http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/0510/050_print.html

As I see it, Dell was trying to use a short-sighted, cut-throat, low-bid approach to the PC/laptop price-wars and it's finally biting them in the @ss! That's how Dell, et al. can offer those crazy-low prices on a "decent PC".http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Evidently, you get what you pay for.http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

And how does that compare with doing it yourself ?

Clearly the biggest PC vendor on the planet will have a few issues. But they dont get to be the biggest by screwing people over and over.

[Silver_2000]

Apu on the phone :hammer: Keep the jobs in America.:flaming:

Thats a great idea - All you have to do is get used to paying $2000 for a pc again and it could happen...

Support folks here have priced themselves out of the market and the customers - Thats US - Have made it clear that we really dont care - as long as its cheap...

[StormShadow]

Thats a great idea - All you have to do is get used to paying $2000 for a pc again and it could happen...

Support folks here have priced themselves out of the market and the customers - Thats US - Have made it clear that we really dont care - as long as its cheap...

With all of the people on wellfare we can't get some of them to answer the phone and transfer the cutomer around untill the hang up for x amount of dollars? (I know this is unrealistic but It kills me to call in to tech support every day and have the ones who answer not know what the heck you are saying and end up sending you to different departments untill you get frustrated and hang up and try again hoping that you get someone who speaks English.)

[dboat]

My personal computer is one that my wife built. She did spend some time on it and I have had very few problems with it. But the best deal we have ever gotten was on an emachine that the wife uses. It has been rock solid and never missed a beat. The price was the best at the time and we would buy another. I dont think she will do another buildup again.
Dana

[Logan]

But Doug, look at this
"Dell moved product support for business accounts from India back to the U.S. It seems some customers were not happy with the prior arrangement.

Dell can assemble and ship a new computer for a customer in 24 hours. But it took six months for the company to get Karen Anderson's name right. Anderson, who lives in Calistoga, Calif., endured dozens of phone calls before Dell issued her a promised $200 rebate for a computer she ordered last October. Dell also gave her the wrong Internet service provider. And her printer broke. "I just want to scream when I see Dell's TV commercials," Anderson fumes."

Also, "Any improvements would be welcome news for Daniel Summars, a Lewisville, Tex. software engineer who says that over 24 months he had 21 part failures or replacements in the same Dell notebook model; Dell replaced it twice. "I submitted it to the Guinness World Records," he says. "

The article from Forbes.com : http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/0510/050_print.html

As I see it, Dell was trying to use a short-sighted, cut-throat, low-bid approach to the PC/laptop price-wars and it's finally biting them in the @ss! That's how Dell, et al. can offer those crazy-low prices on a "decent PC".http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Evidently, you get what you pay for.http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

How is anything biting Dell in the ass ye ol underinformed individual?

Nevermind slaughtering the competition, exceeding all of wall st's predictions quarter after quarter, shipping over 110,000 PC's A DAY, not including servers, notebooks, or electronics, being the ONLY profitable computer manufacturer, employing over 50,000 people worldwide, over 35,000 in the states alone, opening a new call center in OK and a manufacturing facility in NC.

Out of all that, yep, there's a dumbass or two who'll manage to SCREW UP their PC or stick a penny in their printer no matter how stupid simple you make it. Figures it takes a hick to point out a few failures out of literally millions of satisfied customers.

Whatever. Get a life.

I mean that in the nicest possible way. Yeah. That's it.

[Logan]

PS - Don't make me do it.

[True Blue Aggie]

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

[03LightningRocks]

http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif I'll go grab the popcorn.... :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:


I'll buy the beers.....:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Silver_2000]

PS - Don't make me do it.

Quickly running to change passwords on the server and the forum before Logan goes completely postal....

Where is that backup button.... :d

[my2002lightning]

Hmm... you move to Round Rock and defend Dell like you're fighting at the Alamo for you're life! That's interesting. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Who signs your pay-checks?

I'll refrain from any of your "hick" retorts, for now.http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif



How is anything biting Dell in the ass ye ol underinformed individual?

Nevermind slaughtering the competition, exceeding all of wall st's predictions quarter after quarter, shipping over 110,000 PC's A DAY, not including servers, notebooks, or electronics, being the ONLY profitable computer manufacturer, employing over 50,000 people worldwide, over 35,000 in the states alone, opening a new call center in OK and a manufacturing facility in NC.

Out of all that, yep, there's a dumbass or two who'll manage to SCREW UP their PC or stick a penny in their printer no matter how stupid simple you make it. Figures it takes a hick to point out a few failures out of literally millions of satisfied customers.

Whatever. Get a life.

I mean that in the nicest possible way. Yeah. That's it.

[Silver_2000]

Hmm... you move to Round Rock and defend Dell like you're fighting at the Alamo for you're life! That's interesting. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Who signs your pay-checks?

I'll refrain from any of your "hick" retorts, for now.http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

Its no secret that Logan and Michael Dell are VERY close ...

[L8 APEX]

I have a Dell CPx laptop I bought referbed from Computer Concepts in Carrolton. I have put a dozen keyboards in it. But I bought a referb so maybe I deserved it. I never heard any probs with PC's though. Dell is a great LOCAL company I would support them. Even though I use Toshiba laptops for work now. Maybe Logan can get Dell to support PR with a few units:twitch: . Or get my brother a decent job down there.

[Tex Arcana]

You need to add up ALL the time and ALL the costs. All the HOURS spent researching which parts go with which and which are compatible - ALL the trips to frys or whereever to get that last missing piece. As far as upgrades and compatibility thats an old wives tale. Unless you buy a weird case or a small PC that is built into the monitor or something the PCs are built from largely standard parts. I upgraded the memory, video card and the processor in my Dell no problem. I also added a second hard drive. The CD drives would be an easy upgrade - What else is left ?

If you are doing it yourself and you enjoy it then great - Have fun -
But dont try to convince newbies that they will get a better PC experience - cheaper by building it themselves. Those days are gone.


For the most part, you're right: you can't beat a bundle anymore in terms of price. However, if you want bleeding-edge performance or hardware, self-built is always best, despite the time constraints.

Oh, and when it comes to Dell's, everything except the motherboard and power supply are upgradeable--the mobo and PS power connector are proprietary, and negate any sort of upgrade there, unless it's botht the PS and mobo, at which point you might as well toss it in a garage sale, and start all over again. ;)

[Tex Arcana]

I've built a few machines in the past, and fixed my share as well, so I think I've got some experience. :tu:

Most people, when they come to me to ask what to get, the very first question I ask is: "HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE TO SPEND??"

Why do I ask that?? To help stave off obsolescence. Simply put, you buy as much computer as you can afford. If you have $2000 to spend, you get one at that price, and load it up with as much cutting-edge and bleeding-edge hardware as you can. And you make damn sure you put a lion's share of that (sorta like Doug said) into your video--since one of the most important organs are the eyes, it makes sense to get an excellent monitor (as big as you can get), and a good-to-great video card. Next down on the list is RAM, get as much as you can, then the fastest processor as possible, then hard drive size. Sound is down on the list, becasue most integrated solutions are good enough for most people.

Now, of course, comes the caveat: all of the above depends on what you will be doing with the machine. Gaming and graphical rendering requires power and hot video; anything else cuts the requirements considerably. So, knowing your customer is at least as important as knowing their budget.

Bang for the buck, nothing beats an AMD-based computer, the processors are fast as hell (the AMD-64s are greatness), despite the memory bandwidth limitation, and the procs do'nt cost an arm and a leg like Intels. So the money saved there can be put into the hottest video card possible, and a good LCD flatpanel.

[:ron:]Back in NOvember, I helped a friend buy his mother-in-law a new desktop, and she ended up in an e-Machines for $1200. That money got her an 18" flatpanel, a 3200+ Athlon proc, 512MB Ram, a 120Gb HD, and a GeForce 5200 vidcard, not to mention the all-in-on Lexmark scanner/printer/fax. Not a bad deal, especially from Best Buy.

A couple weeks ago, I helped my younger son buy a machine, ended up being a Compaq with a 3100+ Sempron, 512MB RAM, 160GB HD, and a printer and a 17" flatpanel. Not bad, except the graphics are integrated--but at a total price of just under $690 (before tax), not a bad deal for him, especially since he doesn't play games much. Again, not bad, with the only problem being the Compaq proprietary software didn't play nice with the SBC DSL software, which led me to rip out all the bloated unecessary stuff (including the proprietary stuff), and turn it into a simple windows-based pc. ;) [/:ron]

My home machine is a 2-year-old Dell XPS, and it's been a solid performer: 2.8Ghz P4, 512MB QDDR RAM on the 800Mhz bus, 120GB HD, ATi 9800 Pro with 128MB RAM, 18" flatpanel. Not bleeding edge, but a solid performer, despite being not good enough to play DOOM3 at anything better than medium quality.

I understand Ronald's assertion on the Dell issues, and it's just like everything else that's been manufactured since the dawn of time: there's always lemons out there. For the most part, Dell's are highly reliable; however, woe to the one who has a bad machine, because the phone service support now evacuates. The smart thing to do is to buy the 3- or 4-year in-home service policy, and get an Amurrikin out there to work on it. :tu:

So, if anyone is still reading, I'm ready for the :throw: :tongue:

[Tex Arcana]

Its no secret that Logan and Michael Dell are VERY close ...
I was wondering about the hand- and knee-prints in the ground in front of Dell's house... :d

[Tex Arcana]

Hmm... you move to Round Rock and defend Dell like you're fighting at the Alamo for you're life! That's interesting. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Who signs your pay-checks?

I'll refrain from any of your "hick" retorts, for now.http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

Chicken. :d

[Silver_2000]

For the most part, you're right: you can't beat a bundle anymore in terms of price. However, if you want bleeding-edge performance or hardware, self-built is always best, despite the time constraints.

Oh, and when it comes to Dell's, everything except the motherboard and power supply are upgradeable--the mobo and PS power connector are proprietary, and negate any sort of upgrade there, unless it's botht the PS and mobo, at which point you might as well toss it in a garage sale, and start all over again. ;)

I have replaced Dell Power supplies before with off the shelf pieces - NOt sure about the mother boards.

If I wanted bleeding edge I would still buy a PC from a vendor then leave the video card off or get the cheapest one I could - The vendors currently basically only charge you for the hardware all the software - operating system included is essentially free. All the little stuff like the cd burning and fax software adds up quick if you have to buy it ...

Doug

[Tex Arcana]

I have replaced Dell Power supplies before with off the shelf pieces - NOt sure about the mother boards.

If I wanted bleeding edge I would still buy a PC from a vendor then leave the video card off or get the cheapest one I could - The vendors currently basically only charge you for the hardware all the software - operating system included is essentially free. All the little stuff like the cd burning and fax software adds up quick if you have to buy it ...

Doug


Yeah, I konw what you mean, which is why I don't bother building anything anymore, I can't save anyone anything doing that. I've still got the overclocker mentality, tho, and to get *absolute* control over your build and components, the only way to go is do it yourself, *especially* if you 'clock it... ;)

[03LightningRocks]

Good gawd Tex.....I guess you where in the mood to type today....:eek:

[99WhiteBeast]

I went with the BobbyWade computer mod. He can tell you the specifics but all I know is that its a fast mother sucker!

Nice job Adam- resurecting a thread from a year ago:tongue: :nono:

[03LightningRocks]

Nice job Adam- resurecting a thread from a year ago:tongue: :nono:


That's some funny stuff.....:rll:

[StormShadow]

Nice job Adam- resurecting a thread from a year ago:tongue: :nono:

Yea and to think that Gary was hatin on me.