Found this web-site

[F75]

It is not related to cars or trucks but thought I post this in case somone has ever thought about the Military Draft.
http://www.sss.gov/whhap.htm

[Natetrun]

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[blueoval01]

Hummm, the whole idea is serving your country. Without that Mental Attitude in your HEAD, your better off not joining.
I had quite a few friends die in VN, they knew what they had to do. And I have always respected them for that.
The reserves from Texas include a lot of guys that have very good jobs, yet choose to serve and fight. They leave wives and kids behind to do what is necessary.

My 2 cents worth ......

[Sixpipes]

Originally posted by Natetrun
If i didn't have anything better else to do with my life i wouldn't mind being in the military or be drafted. But since I started my life and chose a non military career then screw them. I'm going to canada. I think the draft is bs. True If i had a shitty job and no family then hell yeah i would go pop some caps.
I'm speechless. http://www.fordvschevy.com/forum/images/smilies/ziplip.gif

[Natetrun]

let me revise it fellas, and translate. I support the millitary and what they are doing for our country. however i am against the draft. I'm not going to let any branch of millitary tell me I have to leave behind what i accomplished here of my life.

What if it was world war 3. I'll be gone for 5 years, my wife leaves me, my pets are dead, i get back and i have no money. Alot of vietnam vets were like that. true some sucessful other not. I'm against being owned and played with by politicians and upper brass to do their bidding against my will.

Defend the country sure. I'm very patriotic. Against my will? " You have to go and fight for this country!" Then no. I have stepped in the recruitment office many times. They wouldn't take me because I have asthma. Guess I'm not good enough for them anyways. But I have a Job and a family with bills. I'm fighting my own war. My current job helps contribute here for keeping people safe on a smaller level doing security and loss prevention here at hotel/towncenter.

If it came to a point where I had nothing In my life that depends on me for support - financially and emotionally and where i haven't made commitments else where. Then yes I would go dedicate myself to the services.

You must say " Those people are protecting your job and what you have now, and protecting your family." to that i say thank you but that is irrelevant to the point being made here.

[L8 APEX]

I did not see future wars for the military when I graduated school. Only UN policing actions in countries that did not want us there. If I had known I would get to use skills learned and not just practice on a limited budget I would have gone for it.

[Badcarma]

Originally posted by Natetrun
If i didn't have anything better else to do with my life i wouldn't mind being in the military or be drafted. But since I started my life and chose a non military career then screw them. I'm going to canada. I think the draft is bs. True If i had a shitty job and no family then hell yeah i would go pop some caps.





I decided to refrain.....

[Moonshine]

patriot (pâ´trê-et, -òt´) noun
One who loves, supports, and defends one's country.

[Moonshine]

Originally posted by Natetrun
I'm not going to let any branch of millitary tell me I have to leave behind what i accomplished here of my life.

Civics lesson: Congress enacts laws. The armed forces carry out the orders of the executive branch of the government.


Originally posted by Natetrun
Alot of vietnam vets were like that.

Is this a personal observation or just something that sounded good? I have to ask, seeing as how you weren't born until five years after the fall of Saigon?



Originally posted by Natetrun
I'm against being owned and played with by politicians and upper brass to do their bidding against my will.

Yeah, me too. Don't believe I've ever met anyone who was thrilled by the prospect of being drafted. Matter of fact, most of us don't like being told what to do by anyone.


Originally posted by Natetrun
Defend the country sure. I'm very patriotic.

See the definition of a patriot above.



Originally posted by Natetrun
Against my will? " You have to go and fight for this country!" Then no.

Ah, so sacrifice, devotion, and duty aren't part of your patriotic fervor. Should we interpret this to mean you'd be willing to defend your country if you got to pick the enemy?


Originally posted by Natetrun
They wouldn't take me because I have asthma. Guess I'm not good enough for them anyways.

Rejection is difficult to get over. Hope your counseling is progressing well.


Originally posted by Natetrun
But I have a Job and a family with bills.

Congratulations, and welcome to the human race, but don't delude yourself by thinking those two qualifications make you special.



Originally posted by Natetrun
I'm fighting my own war.

Is this part of that deal you offered where you'll defend your country as long as you get to be in charge?



Originally posted by Natetrun
If it came to a point where I had nothing In my life that depends on me for support - financially and emotionally and where i haven't made commitments else where. Then yes I would go dedicate myself to the services.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but this one flies all over me. The insinuation is that the only people who might voluntarily serve their country in the armed forces are people who don't have anything better to do, and I think that's a terrible slap in the face to every single soldier/airman/sailor/Marine/Coast Guardsman who has ever sacrificed, bled, or died to defend the freedoms that you and I enjoy. I'm ashamed to admit that I never served my country in the armed forces, but I damn well appreciate the sacrifices of those who have.

Rant off

[98Cobra]

Amen, Brian.

I think we all take for granted the sacrifices that have been made for us to enjoy the freedoms we have today. I would go if called, although I think that if they starting calling people like me, we are in big trouble. :eek:

[Moonshine]

Originally posted by 98Cobra
I would go if called, although I think that if they starting calling people like me, we are in big trouble. :eek:

LOL! Yeah, you and me both. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd go, and God help us if we get to the point where they actually need no-running fools like me. :rolleyes:

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Moonshine
LOL! Yeah, you and me both. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd go, and God help us if we get to the point where they actually need no-running fools like me. :rolleyes:

I think I would be called shortly before these guys:

http://www.theonion.com/onion3502/very_special_forces.html

[Natetrun]

obviously you people don't have alot to say by the sound of critiqueing my own oppinion. Pack your **** up and go over there. Or maybe you are the type to sit in the lazy boy and scream at the football quarter back when he drops a pass. Or whack watching porno instead of getting the real thing. My oppinion is just that. If you weren't so busy critiqueing my PERSONAL oppinion you would have noticed i mentioned politicians also, that would mean congress since thats what most congress men and women were and are. Yet i have seen nothing on your personal oppinion on the subject. Are you a professor. This isn't a school paper so stop grading it. The bit about vietnam vets are real statistics. Boys gone in with no education left with no education and ofcourse mental torment lead to problems (BATTLE FATIGUE ETC) from the war casting them out in america's society to be homeless and beggers. there were few lucky people that went in with an education = (HINT THE f.ucking draft, kids were in highschoool 17 years of age and some less -THERE GOES EDUCATION.)

The part about going in on my own Will is just what i ment. I don't chose the enemy i chose if i want to serve or not, hence america and what those people are fighting for. CHOICE. RIGHTS.

go over there instead of talking to people about their own point of view.

and why am i pissed. you made it personal by attacking my personal oppinion and judgeing my intelect.
YES I ment to use PATRIOTIC. " Feeling, expressing, or inspired by love for one's country"

You going to grade my paper? or say something not directed to me but ofcourse your own point of view about the subject "DRAFT" of what this thread is about.

"Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but this one flies all over me. The insinuation is that the only people who might voluntarily serve their country in the armed forces are people who don't have anything better to do, and I think that's a terrible slap in the face to every single soldier/airman/sailor/Marine/Coast Guardsman who has ever sacrificed, bled, or died to defend the freedoms that you and I enjoy. I'm ashamed to admit that I never served my country in the armed forces, but I damn well appreciate the sacrifices of those who have. "

Rant off



THAT WAS MY PERSONal OPINION. IF I DIDN'T HAVE MY WIFE, MY BILLS, WHAT LITTLE EDUCATION I DO HAVE I WOULD GO. I WAS NOT INSULTING ANYONE IN THAT REMARK WAS I? DO YOU SEE ME DIRECTING ANY OF THAT STATEMENT TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR EXCEPT MYSELF? AND I DOUBT YOU EVER SERVED.

neither have I , but again I say, this thread is about the draft.And i did not direct any of this sh.it to people who served.

I'm done with this thread.

[Silver_2000]

Nate

Heads up ... This is a friendly Local Lightning Message board.

Moonshine didnt attack you he attacked your argument, that is the difference. You attacked him, personally.

You views are not likely to be shared by many in this time in our country. Especially not by folks who grew up in a family of folks who served, and who continue to serve both the country and the Local governments.

In the end this is my sand box, and I wont stand for crap like this in it...

Doug

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Natetrun
obviously you people don't have alot to say by the sound of


<useless blather snipped>

Wow. For a second, I thought this was another well-known board. :eek2:

It's funny how small minded people attack the individual instead of the argument when they are losing.

I stand behind Brian 110%. Love it or leave it, as they say, and like I said before(and Brian did too), if they call me, I will go.

:flaming:

[Moonshine]

I am so wounded! I nearly fell out of my chair from laughing so hard (well, at the parts I could understand, anyway).

Professor? Yup that's me. I can make a radio out of a coconut, now if I could just figure out how to patch the hole in this damn boat! And where did MaryAnn go?:D

[Natetrun]

I'm attacking him for these reasons: GEEE wonder why i would be attacking him. damn, i guess your good friends by first name basis so ofcourse you would be behind your homeboy 110. Ofcourse I'm new so i would catch the bs.

Moonshine has analyzed every bit of my oppinion and turned it against me. How old are you? you still goto segrated schools? AND yes i do detect some narrow mindeness.


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Alot of vietnam vets were like that.
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Is this a personal observation or just something that sounded good? I have to ask, seeing as how you weren't born until five years after the fall of Saigon?



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Originally posted by Natetrun
Defend the country sure. I'm very patriotic.
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See the definition of a patriot above.



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Against my will? " You have to go and fight for this country!" Then no.
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Ah, so sacrifice, devotion, and duty aren't part of your patriotic fervor. Should we interpret this to mean you'd be willing to defend your country if you got to pick the enemy?


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Originally posted by Natetrun
They wouldn't take me because I have asthma. Guess I'm not good enough for them anyways.
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Rejection is difficult to get over. Hope your counseling is progressing well.


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Originally posted by Natetrun
But I have a Job and a family with bills.
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Congratulations, and welcome to the human race, but don't delude yourself by thinking those two qualifications make you special.



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Originally posted by Natetrun
I'm fighting my own war.
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Is this part of that deal you offered where you'll defend your country as long as you get to be in charge?



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Originally posted by Natetrun
If it came to a point where I had nothing In my life that depends on me for support - financially and emotionally and where i haven't made commitments else where. Then yes I would go dedicate myself to the services.
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Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but this one flies all over me. The insinuation is that the only people who might voluntarily serve their country in the armed forces are people who don't have anything better to do, and I think that's a terrible slap in the face to every single soldier/airman/sailor/Marine/Coast Guardsman who has ever sacrificed, bled, or died to defend the freedoms that you and I enjoy. I'm ashamed to admit that I never served my country in the armed forces, but I damn well appreciate the sacrifices of those who have.

Rant off

[Natetrun]

All in all. we have to learn to live with eachother cause ofcourse we might see eachother at hooters or somewhere. I leave my aggression here.

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Natetrun
All in all. we have to learn to live with eachother cause ofcourse we might see eachother at hooters or somewhere. I leave my aggression here.

You were the only one who was aggressive. "Intelect" aside...

And yes, I have know Moonshine for quite some time - but then, I could have just read his name on the side under his handle......

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Moonshine
I am so wounded! I nearly fell out of my chair from laughing so hard (well, at the parts I could understand, anyway).

Professor? Yup that's me. I can make a radio out of a coconut, now if I could just figure out how to patch the hole in this damn boat! And where did MaryAnn go?:D

LOL! :D

[Moonshine]

Originally posted by Natetrun
ofcourse we might see eachother at hooters or somewhere. I leave my aggression here.

Yes, I suppose it is possible that we might see each other somewhere. But we Professors don't go to Hooter's. We prefer to "whack" to reruns of MaryAnn bouncing across the island. ;)

[L8 APEX]

Man you are going to need a big shovel to dig your way out of this one:hammer: You are catching BS from me for dissing the military with all that talk about no education and if you had nothing lese in life. My family has shed blood for this country in about every war from WW2, Korea, Veitnam etc.. My step dad spent 6 months last year in Afganistan against the Taliban. He is going back to Iraq in May for Saddam's mess. Leaving my mom home alone again. I don't know where you got your views on the military but nobody I know in this country will agree with it. They are so far off it is not worth correcting.
Your stetement of "in with no education, out with no education". Maybe you are unaware that the military has some of the best schools in the world. Ever hear of West Point or the Air Force academy in Colorado Springs? They have a way of teaching anyone anything in a short amount of time. They train doctors, lawyers, pilots, mechanics. Most of which were nowhere near those levels when they joined. I have seen this first hand in my own household. My brother is attending UT @ Austin on a $65K dollar Navy ROTC scholarship. He is looking at becoming a Naval Aviator instead of a mechanic like his brother. I guess getting paid to get a degree, join as an officer and fly XX million dollar fighter jets is a sucky thing to do:rolleyes: My dad joined back in 1963 and went to Veitman for 4 years in the Navy. They straighted up his slacker hot rodding, beer drinking ways. He learned self dicipline, respect, foriegn languages. Along with two years worth of high tech electronics schools on aircraft weapons systems. He came out with a solid education in cutting edge electronics and a drive to succeed. Without that experience he would probably not been as successful in work, family, or life in general. Those are just the family experiences I am talking about. I have friends from high school that made good decisions by selling their 5.0 GT toys and signing up. They are years ahead of you and I by now. They will retire with full benefits by the time they are 38-42. While I am hoping not to get laid off and working on pickup trucks. They are on subs maintaining nuclear reactors, and other awesome equipment. "Our's is not to reason why, but to do or die".
BTW, Brian edited his post but the pic of the tombstone was his father's. He is buried in the Arlington Memorial Cemetary. He was a career Army Major and died at age 36 in 1972.
Doug sorry for the conflict on your board but I felt it needed said.

[Sixpipes]

Originally posted by 98Cobra


I stand behind Brian 110%.
I just have to step in here and suggest that standing behind someone 110% is an impossibility. A nice jesture on your part though, Garrett. :p

I have to support our country's efforts in the middle East right now, even though I personally think we should have just let Iraq beat up on all their Arab neighbors. Then the world would be begging us to intervene. :cool:

[Moonshine]

Originally posted by Sixpipes
I just have to step in here and suggest that standing behind someone 110% is an impossibility. A nice jesture on your part though, Garrett. :p


Yeah, now that you mention it, that might hurt. MaaarrryyyAaannnnnn, where are you? I really need you now :eek:

[Natetrun]

In vietnam? Lots of kids volunteered for it leaving home to send home pay checks to mom. Yes, The military does have west point. That is a school where kids can go and get an education and cost $$$. I'm talking about the ones the left home and droped out of college or general highschool that got either drafted or volunteered to send money home for a job. I'm not saying anyone shares my point of view about this subject. it is mine and it's me and no one elses.

I studied wars through my whole education and suceeded with moderate grades in history, civics, social classes, personal interviews with vietnam vets, ww2 vets. my whole family has served.

See the movie rambo 1? Not useing that as sound proof but that was the literal proof after watching it with a vietnam vet. a line in the movie "I was in charge of million dollar machines and here I can't even hold a job."

Yes, the services educational programs are hands down the best today. But it was not always like that. You are talking about our generation.

And I wish some of you would read my post that i do support the millitary and their cause, no matter what war it is because it's not them chosing their fights.

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Moonshine
Yeah, now that you mention it, that might hurt. MaaarrryyyAaannnnnn, where are you? I really need you now :eek:

Its kind of like if I walked away from you in one direction long enough, I would eventually be walking toward you instead of away. So maybe I am in front of you by 10%? :confused:

:D

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Natetrun

Yes, the services educational programs are hands down the best today. But it was not always like that.

And we are talking about today, not 30 years ago, or in a bad 80's movie. Thanks for making Moonshine's argument for him. :tu:

[Natetrun]

again 98cobra your speaking for a majority and so was moonshine. I have a GED. i droped out for personal reasons and finally went to college a year ago. I couldn't pass math so i couldn't advance. It took along time for ME to get a job because of my background. i am talking about my own personal point of view. and no one elses. understand?

I'm saying ME if i had no job or my life here I would join the military. That was always my number one choice if I couldnt make something better out of myself.

ME
not any of you
not your parents, your friends ME

[Moonshine]

Nathan,

This may be another point we disagree on, but every factual report I've ever seen or read (not including B movies) indicates that Vietnam vets, as a group, are the most successful group of veterans in American history.

Also, the vast majority of panhandlers you see standing on corners holding up signs indicating they are Vietnam vets are not veterans of any military service.

[L8 APEX]

I like mint chocolate chip ice cream:tu: Was maryAnn the brunette or red head? I liked the little brunette better:tongue:

[Natetrun]

I'm basing all those on statistics, interviews with family members, vets, etc. not personal encounters with the homeless holding signs in the DFW area. That also means that i do not take that as facts, but only from ME MY experiences and what I ME know.

again moonshines argument was always right because of his own oppinion, except when he took everything from mine out of context turned my point of view against me.

[Silver_2000]

This is ****ing hilarious....

Just for the record Im a college drop out too...

PS - we have 38 folks online now... We must be popular somewhere

Doug

[Natetrun]

hehe, politics always gets someone's attention.

[L8 APEX]

I think Nathan set a record for typing profanities in his reply to Moonshine. Hey Nate we don't call him TALON Sgt at Arms for nothing:D

[Moonshine]

Originally posted by Silver_2000_;)!
This is ****ing hilarious....

Doug

Well, I'm trying. What does it take to get a flame on this thread? Or is that not a part of the new software?

[Natetrun]

:p


After doug got on to me i tryed to edit all those curse words out after i calmed down. :hammer:

[Moonshine]

Originally posted by Natetrun
I'm basing all those on statistics

All bantering aside, I would be very interested if you'd care to cite any sources.

And I think I failed to communicate my point adequately. My disagreement with you is NOT over whether or not you personally serve in the military. You raised my hackles when you use phrases like "I'd serve if I couldn't make anything better of myself". The implication is that service in the military is somehow inferior, and that is the point on which I vehemently disagree with you.

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Moonshine
All bantering aside, I would be very interested if you'd care to cite any sources.

And I think I failed to communicate my point adequately. My disagreement with you is NOT over whether or not you personally serve in the military. You raised my hackles when you use phrases like "I'd serve if I couldn't make anything better of myself". The implication is that service in the military is somehow inferior, and that is the point on which I vehemently disagree with you.

I think that's the comment that raised EVERYBODY's hackles.

[Natetrun]

geesh. how many more ways do i need to put it?

I admire the millitary and think its great and a good career. It's also a career that takes dedication. Millitary for some is life. Some people say "you work to live". In their job (MY OPPINION) it's "Live to work" . It's also laying your life on the line. Thats a big task to many. Alot of people aren't as gun-ho as some are. Also I'm no pansy when laying life on the line cause I was a firefighter. Like I said in many of the posts it's simply not my cup of tea unless. Im not bad mouthing the millitary as a bad career.
I'm saying now that I look back and If I didn't make some of my decisions, i would have for sure joined the military for A GOOD career.

For my resources I work with them daily.

My boss: He was apart of the first seal team in nam (not to mention friends with carlos hathcock)
My grandfather: ww2 sergeat in the army
my great grandfather: wwI vet now past away
random interviews of arthurs and platoons leaders that would come speak at my school.
text books.
great grandfather on my dad's side: navy
soon to be father in law:Master chief in navy Korean war
CT in known conflicts here in the dfw area thats now an instructor.

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Natetrun
again 98cobra your speaking for a majority and so was moonshine. I have a GED. i droped out for personal reasons and finally went to college a year ago. I couldn't pass math so i couldn't advance. It took along time for ME to get a job because of my background. i am talking about my own personal point of view. and no one elses. understand?

I'm saying ME if i had no job or my life here I would join the military. That was always my number one choice if I couldnt make something better out of myself.

ME
not any of you
not your parents, your friends ME

Well, maybe you should elaborate for us then. If you don't want to, fine, but it takes the ammo out of your argument. So I guess what I want to know is, if your country needed you, what makes you so special that you should be exempt from serving? We all have jobs(ok, not so many anymore, but you get the point), families, responsibilites, etc. Why are you any different? What is going to ensure your families continued freedom and pursuit of happiness more, being a part of your country's defence, or making sure someone doesn't jack a DVD player from Sears? (I think you said you do loss prevention, but I can't find that in the thread now. Oh, and not a slam on your job if you do that, I am just comparing the overall contribution.)

Also, here is a list of companies that are supporting the war effort by continuing to pay their employees their full salary while serving in Iraq. http://www.coldfury.com/HF/index.html

[98Cobra]

Originally posted by Natetrun
geesh. how many more ways do i need to put it?


Just an understandable one will do...


Originally posted by Natetrun


I admire the millitary and think its great and a good career.

Huh? Earlier you said:


Originally posted by Natetrun
If i didn't have anything better else to do with my life i wouldn't mind being in the military or be drafted.

Which is it? A good career, or a place for people with no other choice? :rolleyes:

[Natetrun]

I do loss prevention\secuirty a little bigger scale :)

I am not special. My argument never did have any ammo to begin with because there was no argument. MY OPPINION. I am not different. If you read some of my post my answer is there. because it's not my cup of tea. "If you do something, do it right" I don't have the dedication for a career in the millitary. As for the draft, I'm against it because you should have a choice in this country. Saddam's people obviously don't. They fight or they get shot. I'm excercising my right as an American citizen not to be drafted.

As for the war: like i said I'm for it. If I took a career in the millitary I would be over there and wouldnt think twice about it. But I'm not.

"Which is it? A good career, or a place for people with no other choice? "

Good career for those who want to do it. FOR ME if i had no other choice and haven't made other decisions. Like people make commiments to serve their country I made a commitment to something else. And i'm not going to sale out just to be PATRIOT OR for some "must be the right thing to do."

[Silver_2000]

Originally posted by Moonshine
Well, I'm trying. What does it take to get a flame on this thread? Or is that not a part of the new software?

No the other skin has the flaming icons... Ill add that to my to do list ... I thought they were cool too...

Doug

[kellynne]

Um hi. So this is really really strange for me. Anyway, I'm Natetrun's fiance. He told me that he was having an argument/discussion with you all and asked me to look at it, so here I am. I guess my job here is to clarify for Natetrun. (By the way dear, that name gets on my nerves.)
N is not unpatriotic. He isn't one of those people out there protesting the war and being crazy. Not that they're all crazy, but you have to admit that some are a little more anti-war than others. Anyway, there have been several occasions during our relationship where N has gone to a recruiting office to see if he would be able to join one of the branches. Sometimes more than once to an office. We had discussed it and it was a very real option and something we both agreed to do, if he could join. I remember one week where he went to every branch office within 30 miles trying to find out more about how he could join. Each and every time he went in, he was denied. There were so many brochures from each branch all over our apartment. It drove me nuts! He was going to talk to my father (20 year Navy ret.) about that branch but he became so discouraged after the 4th or 5th denial that he couldn't do it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that N is not an anti-American. He doesn't agree with some things that our government does, as most of us do. He and I have fairly different political views and he is more for this military action and is more supportive of it than I can be. The problem with N is that when he tries to explain himself, he tends to get a bit confused about what he's trying to say. If any of you have had a moment where your brain is moving faster than your mouth, he's like that sometimes...like now. But it's with his hands instead.
I'm sure I should have read this entire thread, but I didn't. I'm lazy I suppose. N is a really good guy. If it weren't for his asthma, he would probably be in one of the branches of armed service. No, he's not making me say these things. It's the truth. He's really a nice, normal guy who just got a little bent out of shape and defensive. I really hope that this issue doesn't cause any ill will among you all. He really does have lots to offer and he REALLY enjoys TALON. Too much if you ask me, but I guess this is kind of his version of a fraternity...in a way.
Long post short: N is a good guy and not un-American. He would serve if he could but seeing as how government standards won't let him, he can't.

Ok, attack away. I'm sure that I've said something that will annoy someone (hopefully not N). I'm not sure that I said all I wanted to say because it's much too cold in here and my brain has frozen.

Enjoy your discussion....N be good.

Kel

N: Just because I can't talk to you to explain, but when you're stating that you use statistics, you have to use numbers and give a source....otherwise it's just trivia. Love you dear! :) Don't be mad!

[Silver_2000]

Nate-

This is off topic BUT go to www.iespell.com you can dload an application that adds a spell checker icon to Internet explorer

I use it all the time...

Doug

[kellynne]

Silver_2000

THANK YOU!!!! He knows that incorrect spelling drives me nuts! You're wonderful!

:)
Kel

[Silver_2000]

Originally posted by kellynne
Silver_2000

THANK YOU!!!! He knows that incorrect spelling drives me nuts! You're wonderful!

:)
Kel

My pleasure - unfortunately iespell.com has exceeded their bandwidth limit for the month... If you are interested I will see if I can find the install file on my PC

[Natetrun]

heh, gues thats a hint :confused:

[kellynne]

That would be great! Unfortunately for us, we have to use the business center at our apt complex or N @ work. Someday we will have broadband though....I can feel it.

[kellynne]

Originally posted by Natetrun
heh, gues thats a hint :confused:

A slight one. :)

[Moonshine]

Kelly,

Welcome! And feel free to join our discussions anytime, but you must stop flirting with Doug. It's sorta' like feeding the bears, occasionally amusing, but never wise. ;)

Your post indicates that Nathan is a really nice guy. Entirely possible, and I certainly couldn't disagree, as I've never met him, and you obviously know him well enough to be engaged. Congrats, BTW.

However, a portion of your post did concern me greatly. I believe you also stated that Nathan is a "normal" guy. Well, I must caution you both that if Nathan is a normal guy he likely will not fit in well with this group at all. We may claim many things, and a few of them may contain a shred of truth, but normalcy is NEVER among the claims we make. In fact, as a group we're so far off center that claiming normalcy would be considered a character fault. :D

[Natetrun]

Originally posted by Moonshine
Kelly,

Welcome! And feel free to join our discussions anytime, but you must stop flirting with Doug. It's sorta' like feeding the bears, occasionally amusing, but never wise. ;)

Your post indicates that Nathan is a really nice guy. Entirely possible, and I certainly couldn't disagree, as I've never met him, and you obviously know him well enough to be engaged. Congrats, BTW.

However, a portion of your post did concern me greatly. I believe you also stated that Nathan is a "normal" guy. Well, I must caution you both that if Nathan is a normal guy he likey will not fit in well with this group at all. We may claim many things, and a few of them may contain a shred of truth, but normalcy is NEVER among the claims we make. In fact, as a group we're so far off center that claiming normalcy would be considered a character fault. :D


LMAO!! :p

ermm... im both normal and not normal?


hehe. guess after all this political crap we can be friends after all. :cool:

[Silver_2000]

http://www.talonclub.com/ieSpell.exe

[Moonshine]

Originally posted by Natetrun
LMAO!! :p

ermm... im both normal and not normal?


hehe. guess after all this political crap we can be friends after all. :cool:

Absolutely NOT. You see, that's something normal people do. ;)

Besides, I have now been enlightened as to the true source of our friction. Kelly has confessed your deep, dark secret that you were once a hoser, nozzle nut, etc. (firefighter), and therefore were are sworn to be mortal enemies forever. :throw:

[Sixpipes]

http://www.dawnwells.com/Mary_Ann_s_Aloha/Mary_Ann_Memorabilia/Photo_Gallery/makansasM.jpg
Mary Ann was the brunette. http://www.fordvschevy.com/forum/images/smilies/shifty.gif

[Natetrun]

Originally posted by Moonshine
Absolutely NOT. You see, that's something normal people do. ;)

Besides, I have now been enlightened as to the true source of our friction. Kelly has confessed your deep, dark secret that you were once a hoser, nozzle nut, etc. (firefighter), and therefore were are sworn to be mortal enemies forever. :throw:


hehe :d

[Natetrun]

Originally posted by Sixpipes
http://www.dawnwells.com/Mary_Ann_s_Aloha/Mary_Ann_Memorabilia/Photo_Gallery/makansasM.jpg
Mary Ann was the brunette. http://www.fordvschevy.com/forum/images/smilies/shifty.gif


:eek2:

She was fine in her day. Still not so bad for her age either!

:tu:

[Crawford]

:o

[Mark #2]

The Army rejected me very early in life. I was expelled from Army kindergarten at Ft. Leonard Wood in Missouri when I was 4 for disruptive behavior. My dad is a Vietnam veteran, and I signed up for the draft in high school. My father encouraged me to attend college and then enter the ROTC program if I so choose.

I spent one summer working for NARADCOM at Ft Bragg with the 82nd Airborne division. I worked on the rigging for air dropping the Howitzer and wrote portions of the training manual for the Al pallet that we use to drag tanks out of the back of C-130s.

Never joined the service, but often wish that I had.

Mark.