Howard Stern to Move to Satellite Radio

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041006/us_nm/media_sirius_dc_11


Sirius said it would need to add 1 million subscribers to cover the cost of the five-year deal. The company estimates total production and operating costs for the show to be about $100 million annually
Wow after a few years they only have 600,000 and they need to add 1 million to break even on one deal .... HOLY COW... You can bet that Stern Show will cost extra $$

[98Cobra]

Hmm. That's cool, until the FCC decides it can control the content of satellite radio as well(which they are looking at) or Sirius goes out of business, whichever comes first.

[tliss]

Maybe now Howard Stern can get back to putting on a decnt show instead of whining about politics....he's starting to sound like Rush Limbaugh...I can't listen to it.

On topic, I have a feeling this will be Sirius' final blow, leaving only XM. How on earth could any sane board of directors agree to take on a deal requiring them to increase business over 150% to cover the cost? Definitely not a good business decision IMO.

Tom

[Logan]

The FCC will never be able to regulate a service that people voluntarily pay for to receive.

It's been tried before with cable and ultimately it boils done to the fact it's a private, not public service and that by paying money for it, people are making a conscience decision to bring it into their home.

[98Cobra]

The FCC will never be able to regulate a service that people voluntarily pay for to receive.

It's been tried before with cable and ultimately it boils done to the fact it's a private, not public service and that by paying money for it, people are making a conscience decision to bring it into their home.
Its not a big stretch to extend that thinking to regular TV and radio though. No one is forcing you to listen to Stern - I think pretty much everyone knows what to expect from him at this point - so why don't people just change the channel if they don't like him? Don't support the businesses that advertise on his show if it disagrees with what you like? Why does the government have to enforce arbitrary and ridiculous rules on what is "ok" to broadcast? Is it because they know better than I do? Because I can't be trusted to turn it off?

The FCC should be :banned from doing any more damage to free speech than they already have...

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On XM you can get Playboy radio and the upcoming Opey and Anthoney show - Both are an additional subscription costs ABOVE the monthly fee - Sirius has to be planning on doing the same thing ....

I havent subscribed to either BUT I do enjoy XM more and more. Last 2 days I have had it in the comedy channel on the way to work - its 3-5 min bits by different comedians - one after the other - SOme or not so great but some just have me rolling in the truck. Puts a smile on my face on the way to work.

[98Cobra]

I know everyone's tastes are different, but I won't subscribe to the Opie and Anthony channel or Playboy Radio. There is too much on the regular programming side to have to pay extra, IMO. I am sure there will be plenty of takers though.

We were listening to the comedy channel yesterday on the way back from lunch and it was pretty funny. They only gripe I have with it is that sometimes the quality of the recording has so much ambient crowd noise or whathaveyou that when combined with road noise from driving, makes it hard to understand what is being said.
I do love my XM though. I have had it since 2/02 and can't imagine not having it in the truck now.

[Tex Arcana]

I"m surprised he did'nt go with XM, but come to think about it, I'm sure the biggest selling point was getting people who love Stern to switch to Sirius, which WILL happen. Will it happen enough to keep 'em afloat? Maybe, if they improve service and programming to the point where they compete or beat XM, and if Stern has anything to do with it, they will. But, then again, if half of the people in Stern's careeer listened to him in the first place, we wouldn't be having this conversation now, becasue he would pretty much own the airwaves.

[Silver_2000]

I"m surprised he did'nt go with XM, but come to think about it, I'm sure the biggest selling point was getting people who love Stern to switch to Sirius, which WILL happen. Will it happen enough to keep 'em afloat? Maybe, if they improve service and programming to the point where they compete or beat XM, and if Stern has anything to do with it, they will. But, then again, if half of the people in Stern's careeer listened to him in the first place, we wouldn't be having this conversation now, becasue he would pretty much own the airwaves.
I cant see how it passed a business plan..
Heard in a Sirius radio meeting:
"Lets see we have hunreds of channels and have NFL, NHL and god knows what else and in 2 or 3 years we have BARELY been able to scrounge 600,000 subscribers - so lets go sign up one immature one dimensional talk radio guy and gamble that he alone will bring in twice as many subscriers as we have now.. "

Sterns fans are kids - very young - mostly in the lower income brackets - ether due to age or other reasons - These are NOT the prime customers likley to go out in the millions to buy a new radio and pay $13+ bucks a month

- Sirius is broadcast on Dishnetwork now - I wonder if they will carry Stern ...

Doug

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Howard Stern admitted on the radio that the broadcasting system he is with now, Viacomm?, is looking at buying Sirius..
So connect the dots... Sirius does this (actually the original investors) then they sell out to a major conglomerate for a nice penny or two profit...

Dana

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Interesting quote

But the upstart company is betting big by guaranteeing Stern $100 million in cash and stock each year from 2006 through 2010. Sirius has yet to show a profit: It lost $226 million on revenue of nearly $13 million in 2003.
David Card, media analyst at Jupiter Research, questions Sirius' numbers: "How can you spend $100 million a year on a radio show? I bet HBO doesn't spend that on The Sopranos. I think the numbers are just a lot of Hollywood hype. If they end up spending $500 million on Howard Stern, that's wildly expensive."

http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2004-10-06-stern-cover_x.htm

[Tex Arcana]

I cant see how it passed a business plan..
Heard in a Sirius radio meeting:
"Lets see we have hunreds of channels and have NFL, NHL and god knows what else and in 2 or 3 years we have BARELY been able to scrounge 600,000 subscribers - so lets go sign up one immature one dimensional talk radio guy and gamble that he alone will bring in twice as many subscriers as we have now.. "

Sterns fans are kids - very young - mostly in the lower income brackets - ether due to age or other reasons - These are NOT the prime customers likley to go out in the millions to buy a new radio and pay $13+ bucks a month

- Sirius is broadcast on Dishnetwork now - I wonder if they will carry Stern ...

Doug

I'm thoroughly convinced you live on another planet, now...

Sterns fans are kids - very young - mostly in the lower income brackets - ether due to age or other reasons -
You might want to have a good long look at his demographics and audience numbers, they're actually very heavily weighted towards males between 18 and 54, of *all* income brackets. If he were limited to "very young" kids, he would've been out of business as the premier and original shock-jock, and doing a midnight-to-4am show featuring Dr. Demento music.

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[Tex Arcana]

.[QUOTE=Tex Arcana]I'm thoroughly convinced you live on another planet, now...
:banned

no ninja for j00... :d

[Silver_2000]

I'm thoroughly convinced you live on another planet, now...

You might want to have a good long look at his demographics and audience numbers, they're actually very heavily weighted towards males between 18 and 54, of *all* income brackets. If he were limited to "very young" kids, he would've been out of business as the premier and original shock-jock, and doing a midnight-to-4am show featuring Dr. Demento music.
18- 54 is a really wide age group

How many 50 year olds do you think want to listen to hours of fart jokes and other childish noises ??
My point was that the demographic is weighted heavily at the LOW end of that spectrum.

[my2002lightning]

How many 50 year olds do you think want to listen to hours of fart jokes and other childish noises ??
Doug,

I don't know about that assertion. Take Uncle Rocks for example. :d

[Tex Arcana]

18- 54 is a really wide age group

How many 50 year olds do you think want to listen to hours of fart jokes and other childish noises ??
My point was that the demographic is weighted heavily at the LOW end of that spectrum.

I know what your point is, and I think it is incorrect. I think it's spread wider than you think, and that a goodly portion of it is above the 18-34 demographic, which means the 35-54 group. Stern's been aroun for a LONG time now, and alot of his listeners have been listening from the beginning. And, if you think it's all about "fart jokes and childish noises", then you obviously have never listened. The vaunted Ticket plays more "fart jokes and childish noises" than Stern does. 105.3 is the station, tune in for a few days and just listen. :tu:

[03LightningRocks]

Doug,

I don't know about that assertion. Take Uncle Rocks for example. :d

Actually Ronald, your wrong. I find no pleasure in listening to dumb fart jokes. I prefer to be the one making the dumb fart jokes:cool:

[Tex Arcana]

Actually Ronald, your wrong. I find no pleasure in listening to dumb fart jokes. I prefer to be the one making the dumb fart noiseshttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/texarcana/SMiles/fart.gif

fixed. :d

[Silver_2000]

I know what your point is, and I think it is incorrect. I think it's spread wider than you think, and that a goodly portion of it is above the 18-34 demographic, which means the 35-54 group. Stern's been aroun for a LONG time now, and alot of his listeners have been listening from the beginning. And, if you think it's all about "fart jokes and childish noises", then you obviously have never listened. The vaunted Ticket plays more "fart jokes and childish noises" than Stern does. 105.3 is the station, tune in for a few days and just listen. :tu:Tex - I didnt say that I didnt listen - Lets see from memory the 105.3 schedule is Stern till hes done about 11-11:30 then Pugs and Kelly till Russ martin and russ martin runs as long as he wants then another national show lykis....

I still think that just like the HBO quote I posted, its foolish to bet 500 million on one show on sat radio. It will be intereresting to see how far the deal goes and if stern can single handedly save the bleeding company. Im not the only one that thinks that even Stern cant bring Sirius out of the toilet. They were already blleding much faster than XM and now they have Cut the carotid artery. In reading the news about Stern and Sirius it seems like there is an elephant in the room. Some big piece of the puzzle we havent seen.

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no ninja for j00... :d

Already own a Ninja... ZX1100 yes its a 92 but its still fast and its paid for..
purple and black too.. knana

[Tex Arcana]

Tex - I didnt say that I didnt listen - Lets see from memory the 105.3 schedule is Stern till hes done about 11-11:30 then Pugs and Kelly till Russ martin and russ martin runs as long as he wants then another national show lykis....

I still think that just like the HBO quote I posted, its foolish to bet 500 million on one show on sat radio. It will be intereresting to see how far the deal goes and if stern can single handedly save the bleeding company. Im not the only one that thinks that even Stern cant bring Sirius out of the toilet. They were already blleding much faster than XM and now they have Cut the carotid artery. In reading the news about Stern and Sirius it seems like there is an elephant in the room. Some big piece of the puzzle we havent seen.


Russ Martin: talk about fart jokes and rude noises!! :nono:

The missing peice of the puzzle is at the end of the green-dollar road, and I think Dana hit the nail on the head:

Howard Stern admitted on the radio that the broadcasting system he is with now, Viacomm?, is looking at buying Sirius..
So connect the dots... Sirius does this (actually the original investors) then they sell out to a major conglomerate for a nice penny or two profit...

Dana

cha-CHIIIING!!

What's the old saying: where there's smoke, there's fire??

How about an update: where's there's nonsensical things going on, there's money changing hands? :twitch:

[Tex Arcana]

Already own a Ninja... ZX1100 yes its a 92 but its still fast and its paid for..
purple and black too.. knana
:rll:

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:rll: :nono:

For something that old, it still holds it own and is easy to ride.. that engine is still one sweet motor...
Dana

[Tex Arcana]

:nono:

For something that old, it still holds it own and is easy to ride.. that engine is still one sweet motor...
Dana
:nono: I was laughing at how you turned my "ninja" comment into something else.. well done. :bows

[Silver_2000]

:nono: I was laughing at how you turned my "ninja" comment into something else.. well done. :bows
If your werent talking about bikes that comment went over my head too

[dboat]

If your werent talking about bikes that comment went over my head too

Well I guess I am getting too old.. just dont know all those colloquialisms any more.. :confused:
Dana

[Tex Arcana]

Well I guess I am getting too old.. just dont know all those colloquialisms any more.. :confused:
Dana

"Ninja" is a term used when a person posts a reply, then goes in almost immediately to change it, like trying to sneak in and change a statement on the sly, so no one sees that they said it.

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"Ninja" is a term used when a person posts a reply, then goes in almost immediately to change it, like trying to sneak in and change a statement on the sly, so no one sees that they said it.
Thats a new one...

The system here marks the thread as edited AND anyone who is subscribed to the thread gets emailed a copy of the original post almost instantly after its posted

PLUS - we are all freinds here - nothing to hide

[Tex Arcana]

Thats a new one...

The system here marks the thread as edited AND anyone who is subscribed to the thread gets emailed a copy of the original post almost instantly after its posted

PLUS - we are all freinds here - nothing to hide


Right... Dana, however, posted what he did, then changed it (or you did), so I called him for the "ninja", out of habit. Of course, that means this thread hijack is now complete. :tu:

[dboat]

I had posted my initial thoughts because I thought your comment was unwarranted, but then decided to keep my thoughts to myself and got caught for it.
I happen to like Doug and agree with him almost all of the time, when he has to make a decision here. And I have been on the harsh end of a few thrown my way by him too.
Oh well.
Dana

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I had posted my initial thoughts because I thought your comment was unwarranted, but then decided to keep my thoughts to myself and got caught for it.
I happen to like Doug and agree with him almost all of the time, when he has to make a decision here. And I have been on the harsh end of a few thrown my way by him too.
Oh well.
Dana
Im harsh ... Tell it aint so....

[Tex Arcana]

Im harsh ... Tell it aint so....

*sigh* It's so... can't tell you how many children you've frightened... :d

[Tex Arcana]

I had posted my initial thoughts because I thought your comment was unwarranted, but then decided to keep my thoughts to myself and got caught for it.
I happen to like Doug and agree with him almost all of the time, when he has to make a decision here. And I have been on the harsh end of a few thrown my way by him too.
Oh well.
Dana


Well, you'll get over it before a certain orifice grows shut... :d

One thing you best learn about me: I speak my mind, and if I disagree, you'll hear about it. Don't like it? Then don't say anything. :nono:

I give as good as I get... :beer: