Arafat caput

[L8 APEX]

How do you think his death will affect the region and the world as a whole? Deep thought to follow:tu:

[StormShadow]

I'm sure they are dancing in the streets of Israel.

[my2002lightning]

Probably, one of his lieutenants will step up and try to take control. Hard to say.
I just hope Ariel Sharon has the cajones (along with Dubya!knana ) to stomp a mud-hole in Iraqs @ss (those beheading insurgents too) and the whole terrorism-network region in the Hindu-Kush of Afghanistan/Paki. border where OBL is probably holed-up! :flaming:

I just wonder...with all our technology and jillions of DOLLARS, we keep asking ourselves, "Where's OBL?" :hammer:

One thing I'll say about the Israeli's as I've seen, they hit tgts. in Palestine/Iraq/etc. and not just a group takes responsibility for it...the ENTIRE country takes responsibility for a hit.:nana2

Don't jack with the Israelis or the Mossad, either.:eek: http://www.fas.org/irp/world/israel/mossad/

They're like the Sopranos to the n-th power!

[my2002lightning]

Oh, and a follow-up point/statistic,

I understand that El-Al (the national/gov. airline of Israel) is the only airlines around to have NEVER been hijacked.

The deal is that they have Uzi SMG armed gov. agents onboard "keeping the peace" who aren't afraid of "unloading" on assailants.

Such is life in the "Wild Wild West".:cool:

[98Cobra]

I just wonder...with all our technology and jillions of DOLLARS, we keep asking ourselves, "Where's OBL?" :hammer:


I dunno...

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/118899.htm

I mean, I'd still rather Bush be in office than Kerry, but I don't know as though OBL is a priority anymore. I think if we catch him at this point it is just a political bonus.




One thing I'll say about the Israeli's as I've seen, they hit tgts. in Palestine/Iraq/etc. and not just a group takes responsibility for it...the ENTIRE country takes responsibility for a hit.:nana2

Don't jack with the Israelis or the Mossad, either.:eek: http://www.fas.org/irp/world/israel/mossad/

They're like the Sopranos to the n-th power!
That's because they are a country with an armed forces, and we recognize their government.

That said, I am sure there are HUNDREDS of hits/operations that we have done over the years that we *haven't* ever claimed responsibilty for, because we couldn't. :cool:

[98Cobra]

Oh, and a follow-up point/statistic,

I understand that El-Al (the national/gov. airline of Israel) is the only airlines around to have NEVER been hijacked.

The deal is that they have Uzi SMG armed gov. agents onboard "keeping the peace" who aren't afraid of "unloading" on assailants.

Such is life in the "Wild Wild West".:cool:
Follow-up/Followup:

The reason for that is that their version of the TSA has real, trained personnel. They pay VERY well from what I hear, and they actually get training in military intelligence, interrogation, etc. Here in the US we basically have your local Bennigan's waitress deciding she wants to make a difference wanding down Meema to make sure she isn't carrying a wind-resistant cigarette lighter.

What is hilarious to me is that everyone wants to be safe, but no one wants the security screening. If it ever get serious here about airline safety like it is in Israel, I think people will be hesitant to fly unless necessary.

[Logan]

Israel. Gaza. Parking Lot. 'nuff said.

[Wht95Lightning]

They're all doomed but first...

http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/graphics/fullsize/araf_lg.gif

[dboat]

One,
The people of Palestine have a pretty tough life and they want a change to a more moderate person, their life isnt changing and they see the difference all around them.

Two,
Arafat had taken most of the money that was given to Palestine from other countries. He has millions in banks across most of Europe. The reason it has taken this long to announce his death is that the wrangling with his wife and finance minister had to be taken care of before he could be announced dead.
That said, if the Palestinian people ever realize how much money he stole from them, they would revolt..

Dana

[Ivanhoe_Farms]

When did the term Palestinian come into existence, and how?:o

[Sixpipes]

661-750 Palestine becomes a province under the Arab-Islamic Umayyad Dynasty that was based in Damascus.


685-691 The Ummayad Caliph Abdul Malik Ibn Marwan (685-705) builds the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

705 Al-Walid Ibn Abdul Malik (705-715) of the Umayyads builds Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem.

750-1258 Palestine becomes a province under the Arab-Islamic Abbasid Dynasty based in Baghdad.

1099-1187 The Crusaders invade Palestine and establish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

1187 The Battle of Hittin in Palestine. Saladin of Egypt defeats the Crusaders and liberates Palestine from European Crusader control. Palestine is re-Arabized and re-Islamized.

1517 Ottoman conquest of most of the Arab world including Palestine.

1517-1918 Palestine under Ottoman rule.

1882-1904 First wave of immigration of Jewish settlers to Palestine.

1897 First Zionist Congress meets in Basel, Switzerland. The Basel Program is launched to settle Jews in Palestine and the World Zionist Organization is established.

1904-1914 Second wave of immigration of Jewish settlers to Palestine.

1911 Filistine newspaper is founded in Jaffa by Issa al-Issa. The newspaper addresses Arabs in Palestine as Palestinians, warning them of the consequences of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.

1915-16 Sharif Hussein and Henry McMahon, the British high commissioner in Egypt, exchange correspondence guaranteeing Arab independence in return for the Arab revolt against the Ottomans.

1916 16 May Britain and France sign the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divides the Ottoman Middle East provinces among them.

1917 2 November Lord Arthur James Balfour, British foreign secretary, sends a letter (later known as the Balfour Declaration) to Lord Edmund de Rothschild supporting the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine.


1918 9 December British forces occupy Palestine.

1919 First National Conference-Palestine; King-Crane Commission.

1920 24 April San Remo Conference grants Great Britain mandate over Palestine.

1922 24 July Council of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine.

1936-39 Arab revolt erupts in Palestine.

1937 7 July The Peel Commission Report recommends turning Palestine into a Jewish State and an Arab State incorporated into Transjordan, with Jerusalem and Bethlehem placed under the British Mandate.

1939 17 May The British government issues the MacDonald White Paper to limit and restrict Jewish immigration and land purchases in Palestine.

1942 11 May The Zionists attending the Biltmore Conference in New York advocate the establishment of a “Jewish Commonwealth” in Palestine.

1946-48 Jewish-Palestinian-British war breaks out.

1947 29 November The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine recommends the Partition of Palestine (UN General Assembly Resolution 181) into an Arab state and a Jewish state, and that Jerusalem and its environs be internationalized without consultation with Palestinians.

1948 9 April Jewish underground forces, the Irgun and Stern Gang, massacre 254 Palestinians in the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem. 14 MayThe Mandate over Palestine officially ends and the Zionists proclaim the establishment of the state of Israel. The U.S. extends full diplomatic recognition to Israel. 1 SeptemberThe Palestinian National Conference meets in Gaza and the All-Palestine Government is established under the leadership of Hajj Amin al-Husseini. Al-Husseini heads the meeting of the Palestinian National Council in Gaza.1 DecemberPalestinian notables from the east central Palestine, the area that remained under Jordanian military control (and later called the West Bank), meet in Jericho and advocate a temporary union with Transjordan. 11 DecemberThe United Nations General Assembly adopts Resolution 194, which recognizes the right of Palestinians who were expelled by the Israeli army or who fled during the 1948 war to return to their homes.

1949 At the end of the 1948 war, Israel extends its holdings of Palestine, and now controls 78 percent of it rather than the 56 percent allocated by the UN Partition Plan of 1947 by conquering areas allotted by the UN to the Palestinian state.12 AugustGeneva Convention provides protection of civilians in time of war (Fourth Geneva Convention).8 DecemberThe UN announces the establishment of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) to assist Palestinian refugees in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.The West Bank comes under Jordanian control, while Egypt asserts authority over Gaza.

1950 24 April The West Bank officially becomes part of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

1953 28 February Israel launches a large scale assault on the Gaza Strip.

1956 28-29 October The Suez war (the second Arab-Israeli war). Israel invades and occupies the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula in preparation for a British-French invasion of Egypt to reinstate western control of the Suez.

[Sixpipes]

1957 In Kuwait, Yasser Arafat, among others, founds the Palestine Liberation Movement, whose name becomes Fateh, which means “opening.”

1964 28 May Ahmed Shuqeiri, the Palestinian representative to the Arab League, heads the Palestinian National Council (PNC) meeting in Jerusalem, where the First Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) National Covenant is drafted. At the PNC meeting, he is appointed the first chairman of the PLO. 2 June The PLO is officially founded.

[Ivanhoe_Farms]

Great history lesson,:bows


But is there a reference to a Palestinian People prior to this?

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/res181.htm:confused:


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28222

[blueoval01]

Whatever the history lesson, he invented Terriorism.
1972 olymics is a prime example ....... :mad:
......... AND the pres of France is a freakin PU$$Y for uligizing him.

The guy was a freakin' terrorist!!! Period!

[dboat]

One,
The people of Palestine have a pretty tough life and they want a change to a more moderate person, their life isnt changing and they see the difference all around them.

Two,
Arafat had taken most of the money that was given to Palestine from other countries. He has millions in banks across most of Europe. The reason it has taken this long to announce his death is that the wrangling with his wife and finance minister had to be taken care of before he could be announced dead.
That said, if the Palestinian people ever realize how much money he stole from them, they would revolt..

Dana

As a follow up, I believe that Palestine received more foreign aid than any other country, yet look at how they lived.. sad and all due to a man that deceived those people all those years. And yes Mark, he is a terrorist and a person that supported terrorists and terrorist activity. All the while, lining his own pockets with money that should have gone to support his people. :Bullshit

[Shiner1]

661-750 Palestine becomes a province under the Arab-Islamic Umayyad Dynasty that was based in Damascus.


685-691 The Ummayad Caliph Abdul Malik Ibn Marwan (685-705) builds the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

705 Al-Walid Ibn Abdul Malik (705-715) of the Umayyads builds Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem.

750-1258 Palestine becomes a province under the Arab-Islamic Abbasid Dynasty based in Baghdad.

1099-1187 The Crusaders invade Palestine and establish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem.

1187 The Battle of Hittin in Palestine. Saladin of Egypt defeats the Crusaders and liberates Palestine from European Crusader control. Palestine is re-Arabized and re-Islamized.

1517 Ottoman conquest of most of the Arab world including Palestine.

1517-1918 Palestine under Ottoman rule.

1882-1904 First wave of immigration of Jewish settlers to Palestine.

1897 First Zionist Congress meets in Basel, Switzerland. The Basel Program is launched to settle Jews in Palestine and the World Zionist Organization is established.

1904-1914 Second wave of immigration of Jewish settlers to Palestine.

1911 Filistine newspaper is founded in Jaffa by Issa al-Issa. The newspaper addresses Arabs in Palestine as Palestinians, warning them of the consequences of the Zionist colonization of Palestine.

1915-16 Sharif Hussein and Henry McMahon, the British high commissioner in Egypt, exchange correspondence guaranteeing Arab independence in return for the Arab revolt against the Ottomans.

1916 16 May Britain and France sign the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divides the Ottoman Middle East provinces among them.

1917 2 November Lord Arthur James Balfour, British foreign secretary, sends a letter (later known as the Balfour Declaration) to Lord Edmund de Rothschild supporting the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine.


1918 9 December British forces occupy Palestine.

1919 First National Conference-Palestine; King-Crane Commission.

1920 24 April San Remo Conference grants Great Britain mandate over Palestine.

1922 24 July Council of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine.

1936-39 Arab revolt erupts in Palestine.

1937 7 July The Peel Commission Report recommends turning Palestine into a Jewish State and an Arab State incorporated into Transjordan, with Jerusalem and Bethlehem placed under the British Mandate.

1939 17 May The British government issues the MacDonald White Paper to limit and restrict Jewish immigration and land purchases in Palestine.

1942 11 May The Zionists attending the Biltmore Conference in New York advocate the establishment of a “Jewish Commonwealth” in Palestine.

1946-48 Jewish-Palestinian-British war breaks out.

1947 29 November The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine recommends the Partition of Palestine (UN General Assembly Resolution 181) into an Arab state and a Jewish state, and that Jerusalem and its environs be internationalized without consultation with Palestinians.

1948 9 April Jewish underground forces, the Irgun and Stern Gang, massacre 254 Palestinians in the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem. 14 MayThe Mandate over Palestine officially ends and the Zionists proclaim the establishment of the state of Israel. The U.S. extends full diplomatic recognition to Israel. 1 SeptemberThe Palestinian National Conference meets in Gaza and the All-Palestine Government is established under the leadership of Hajj Amin al-Husseini. Al-Husseini heads the meeting of the Palestinian National Council in Gaza.1 DecemberPalestinian notables from the east central Palestine, the area that remained under Jordanian military control (and later called the West Bank), meet in Jericho and advocate a temporary union with Transjordan. 11 DecemberThe United Nations General Assembly adopts Resolution 194, which recognizes the right of Palestinians who were expelled by the Israeli army or who fled during the 1948 war to return to their homes.

1949 At the end of the 1948 war, Israel extends its holdings of Palestine, and now controls 78 percent of it rather than the 56 percent allocated by the UN Partition Plan of 1947 by conquering areas allotted by the UN to the Palestinian state.12 AugustGeneva Convention provides protection of civilians in time of war (Fourth Geneva Convention).8 DecemberThe UN announces the establishment of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) to assist Palestinian refugees in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.The West Bank comes under Jordanian control, while Egypt asserts authority over Gaza.

1950 24 April The West Bank officially becomes part of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

1953 28 February Israel launches a large scale assault on the Gaza Strip.

1956 28-29 October The Suez war (the second Arab-Israeli war). Israel invades and occupies the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula in preparation for a British-French invasion of Egypt to reinstate western control of the Suez.



Day-um

[Shiner1]

1957 In Kuwait, Yasser Arafat, among others, founds the Palestine Liberation Movement, whose name becomes Fateh, which means “opening.”

1964 28 May Ahmed Shuqeiri, the Palestinian representative to the Arab League, heads the Palestinian National Council (PNC) meeting in Jerusalem, where the First Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) National Covenant is drafted. At the PNC meeting, he is appointed the first chairman of the PLO. 2 June The PLO is officially founded.




Follow - up, Day-um