Is this a good HOG KILLA?

[StormShadow]

http://www.gunblast.com/images/Browning-BLR358/Thumbs/MVC-004F.jpg (http://www.gunblast.com/images/Browning-BLR358/MVC-004F.jpg)

http://www.gunblast.com/Browning-BLR358.htm

Its a browning BLR .358. Do any of you gun experts know anything about this gun? I've read a few articles on it and they seem to imply that this gun will take down any North American Beast. I found it at Wallyworld for $579. The Browning website says $700 or so.
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/gun_columns/GAnotes0404_0426A.jpg

[r1eater]

Holy Crap!!

Manufacturer: Browning

Caliber/Gauge: .358 Win

Model: BLR Lightweight

Finish: Blue

Stock or Grips: Wood

Barrel Length: 20

Overall Length: 40

Weight: 6.5

Capacity: 3+1

Sights: Open Rifle Sights

Safety Features: Half Cock

Drilled & Tapped: Yes

Rate-of-Twist: 1-in-12

Additional Feature 1: Lightweight Alloy Receiver

Additional Feature 2: Detachable Magazine

6.5 lbs !!!! :bows

[StormShadow]

This seems to be a pretty versatile gun, however nobody really buys this gun. Maybe it will be one of those rare/collector guns one day.

[L8 APEX]

I am not familiar with that caliber it sounds expensive and rare. I like ammo I can buy from WalMart not gun stores. I would still go with the 30/30 lever action. Remember rifles don't come with scopes 90% of the time that is another 3-500 dollars. I think Brian has a 30/30 with scope for 500 total? You will want a low power scope so you can acquire your target faster.

[r1eater]

Winchester makes the 200 gr Super X Silvertip rounds for it and they are about 26.90 or less for a box of 20, I'm not sure if Walmart carrys them but if they carry the gun I'd guess they might have the ammo too :confused:

You can also hand load .357 pistol rounds into this rifle. From everything I can find it will take down pretty much anything up to 200-250 yards. I've read guys posting about them taking down Bull Elks, Bears, white tail dear, hogs and crows, although only a cloud of feathers is left when you shoot the crow. :D You name it and its gone down. All this in a 6.5lb flickable rifle.

Terry has a good point though sounds like that 30-30 is a good deal for what it comes with. But if you want a trick rifle the 358 sounds like the way to go. Besides you can use it for all you hunting needs... :d

[my2002lightning]

Adam,

You can't go wrong with a Browning and/or a lever-action as both are very solid.

As for the .358 caliber, I'd shy away from it as it's a bit of an "exotic" and could get expensive and/or scarce. I've heard of the .458 Win. Mag., but that's an African safari cartridge.

The .30-30 lever-action combo. is a very good setup - I believe it has the record for taking the most number of whitetail - it's been around since before the turn of the century if I'm not mistaken.

The .308/.30-06 cartridges are even better for the sniper-role if the first-shot is what matters. As I've stated before, you need a good sized-round with plenty of capacity- a "beater" MAK-90 with 123 gr. SP with 2-30rd magazines (with extras) jungle-clipped for knocking around the woods.

Personally, I'd take my Ruger .300 WM to take them at distance and my MAK-90 for CQB. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/bows.gif You've hunted boar before?

I'm kicking myself now for missing that shot at the big black monster boar during deer season! Oh well, spring is around the corner. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/devil.gif

Ronald

[StormShadow]

. As I've stated before, you need a good sized-round with plenty of capacity- a "beater" MAK-90 with 123 gr. SP with 2-30rd magazines (with extras) jungle-clipped for knocking around the woods.

Personally, I'd take my MAK-90 for CQB. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/bows.gif
Ronald
Ronald I'm not talking about hunting Taliban, I just want to shoot a pig. That gun your talking about is a machine gun. Is there something that I need to know about these pigs? Are they going to be shooting back? I've never hunted pigs before so do I really need an assault rifle like this? http://www.frankbachman.com/images/ak-47/mak90_folding_stock_extended.JPG

j/k Ronald

[L8 APEX]

They are short fast and hard to kill. I like a wide field of view sight, auto loader. It is like the VC are raiding the perimeter. Oh yeah they have large sharp tusks:eek:

[my2002lightning]

Adam,

I'm not typing this to see my post-count go up by 1! http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif Those sum-b!tches are fast/mean/resourceful.

Don't EVER corner a sow w/piglets - a male/boar is one thing. A protective sow will run your ass over and worse. I've seen this in the woods - they root up brush/twigs/leaves to make a bed for themselves to sleep off the ground.

Regan has been out spring-time Turkey hunting and has run across them - they ran him up a tree for a few hours! http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl2.gifhttp://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/devil.gif

Just bring more "gun" than you think you'll need for wild boar - and expect the unexpected.

Ronald

[Moonshine]

Adam,

You can't go wrong with a Browning and/or a lever-action as both are very solid.

As for the .358 caliber, I'd shy away from it as it's a bit of an "exotic" and could get expensive and/or scarce.
Concur with Ronald's comments on the above. The other factor to consider is recoil. A .358 throwing 250 gr. bullets is a thumper, and in a 6.5 lb. rifle, it's gonna thump on both ends. A lot. That's not going to be a fun gun to shoot.

[my2002lightning]

Adam,

Here's some good info.

http://www.noble.org/Ag/Wildlife/FeralHogs/03-Current.htm

http://www.texasboars.com/

BTW, the Noble Foundation was setup in OK. by a rich oil-family that does all kinds of wildlife research. They have huge high-wire managed deer herds that just gorge themselves on legumes (bean family) and all the other "antler builders". I was at Regan's taxidermist years ago and actually held the rack of a 34 ptr. non-typical taken off the property - just massive! http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/bows.gif

I understand they have a ranch in North Texas too and let hunters in there based on a lottery drawing.

The 2nd url has a pretty good forums area and recommended firearm section.

Also, remember recoil is a big factor, as Moonshine mentioned, when stepping into the higher powered rifles. They can be absolute torture to shoot when putting the rounds through them for extended periods.

Just something to remember too, hogs are like buzzards and eat anything - so I wouldn't think about anything other than the trophy head/tusks and leave the carcass lay. I could elaborate on my personal experiences and Dad's, but I'll refrain. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/eek2.gif

Just my $.02.

Ronald

[r1eater]

Adam,

Knowing the type of guns you like I say get the thing. It seems like it's an all round gun for all types of game not just hogs. I mean when you have folks saying they shot a Buck at 200 yards and the bullet broke both its shoulders as it passed through, what more do you want :tu: As for the recoil, I see that as a none factor because its not like the thing has a 30rd magazine. Its got a five round capacity. Most of the time you'll be in a blind waiting for the game to come to you and you'll only have one shot, so make it count :) Now if you were gonna shoot something just for the hell of it then yeah dont get this, grab that MAK-90 or that 30-30 Terry was talking about. Besides if you get this thing and don't like it I'm sure you wont have a problem getting rid of it. Not to mention if you get it at Wally mart they take anything back, even **** they dont sell :rll:

[Ivanhoe_Farms]

It depends on what kind of pig you are talking about. If you are talking about ferrel hogs or russian boar, may want a big thumper like this --- Marlin Guide gun 45/70 with ported 18.5 inch barrell. Perfect for the brush and blowing trees out of the way -- all stainless steel to boot:cool:

If you are talking about javelina --- AR15 :tu:

[03LightningRocks]

If all you want it for is to go Hog hunting.......I would head back to Wally World and buy a 30-30 lever action(the cheapest one they have), and a cheap arse weaver scope in a 2 or 4 power and go hunting. For hog at close range....I would even consider open sights. Yes, stories abound about how some cowboy knocked the tick off an ants ass at 600 yards with a 50 caliber muzzle loader....but after spending 25 years around hunters and fishermen of all kinds, I have learned to go by the 90% rule. 90% of what a hunter/fisherman says about how they took an animal is BULLSH!T...LOL.

So.......here is my input. If the object of the game is short range...great...get a short range weapon. Now if short range weapon is the weapon of choice....a $300 scope for it is just plain stupid....romantic...but stupid. Here is my point. Any of the rounds made for lever action, will loose most of their punch at 200 yards...even if you manage to aim high enough to lob a round into the target.

If you plan to become, a hunter of all that lives and breaths in the woods....get a good 30-06 with a nice scope and use it for hogs,deer, turkey and about anything else that walks within 500 yards of you...LOL.


Rocks:beer:

[StormShadow]

I went to Texasboars.com and found a local hunting ranch in Corsicana called the Reed Ranch. Their website is down so I have an email in to the owner and I'm waiting on his reply. Post up if your interested in going with us and I'll post up details as I get them.

[03LightningRocks]

I went to Texasboars.com and found a local hunting ranch in Corsicana called the Reed Ranch. Their website is down so I have an email in to the owner and I'm waiting on his reply. Post up if your interested in going with us and I'll post up details as I get them.
I may be interested depending on when and only if I can kill the largest of it's breed:rll: .

[my2002lightning]

I maybe interested, as well. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/nana.gifhttp://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrinflip.gif Gotta' love the Old Testament. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/bows.gif

Genesis 9:2

And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth [upon] the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

Genesis 9:3

Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

Adam, it's kind of ironic. I was watching Pulp Fiction earlier this week and remember how Jules commented on how pigs are nasty animals and how he doesn't eat bacon.

Other less, ethereal reading: http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=857098

Ronald

BTW, this one reportedly weighed in at almost 1,200 lbs. Taken with a .44 Rem. Mag. in Florida (not Texas - according to snopes.com)

http://www.hickbuilt.com/gallery/DUgallery/pictures/tractor-hog.jpgX596.jpg



I may be interested depending on when and only if I can kill the largest of it's breed:rll: .

[StormShadow]

I am going to start a dedicated thread in the members section on the Hog Hunt. Follow me there.

[Sixpipes]

http://www.hickbuilt.com/gallery/DUgallery/pictures/tractor-hog.jpgX596.jpg

You could make a lot of footballs out of that thing. :cool:

[Silver_2000]

I maybe interested, as well. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/nana.gifhttp://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrinflip.gif Gotta' love the Old Testament. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/bows.gif

Genesis 9:2

And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth [upon] the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

Genesis 9:3

Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.



Lets take a literal translation of those scriptures.

They mean that you should fear me and that you would be food for me if I wanted....

Please lets NOT start quoting scripture

[r1eater]

Lets take a literal translation of those scriptures.

They mean that you should fear me and that you would be food for me if I wanted....

Please lets NOT start quoting scripture

Which is Ironic because until then meat was forbidden. Then again it also says in the bible that you can buy and own slaves but that they can only be from neighboring countries..

[L8 APEX]

Lets take a literal translation of those scriptures.

They mean that you should fear me and that you would be food for me if I wanted....

Please lets NOT start quoting scripture
We cannnot fear you Doug all mankind is equal, it is reffering to animals, not other people.

[Sixpipes]

It's important to know that those of us who consider ourselves under the "new covenant" appreciate the Old Testiment for what it is, a historical account of man and his relationship to God. It helps us understand man's inability to manage himself. Using Old Testiment quotes to justify one's right to hunt is just a tad farther out there than I care to venture.

Having said that, I love to hunt and don't have a problem shooting a feral hog that destroys habitat originally created to support indiginous species. :cool:

[dboat]

It's important to know that those of us who consider ourselves under the "new covenant" appreciate the Old Testiment for what it is, a historical account of man and his relationship to God. It helps us understand man's inability to manage himself. Using Old Testiment quotes to justify one's right to hunt is just a tad farther out there than I care to venture.

Having said that, I love to hunt and don't have a problem shooting a feral hog that destroys habitat originally created to support indiginous species. :cool:

well said..

[r1eater]

How bout taking down big game with a Bow?

Nice Shot (http://www.huntingfootage.com/data/514/592the_king_is_dead.wmv)

[my2002lightning]

I never quoted Genesis to justify anything regarding hunting - just TALON fodder.http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif I don't feel the need for justification, at all.

I "do as I do" and "hunt as I hunt" legally and responsibly. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Speaking of ironic and "Genesis"...that's another story. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrinflip.gif

[dboat]

How bout taking down big game with a Bow?

Nice Shot (http://www.huntingfootage.com/data/514/592the_king_is_dead.wmv)

I would think that taking that size of an animal with an arrow would be almost impossible. You would have to hit the heart or a major artery. The chances of that are pretty slim, esp at that distance. Are the arrows dipped in anything? Maybe one of you hunter types can explain this to me.
Thanks
Dana

[my2002lightning]

Dana,

I've only arrowed one 8-pt. whitetail before, but I can tell you that the high-end bows are very potent and it can be done - it's up to the hunter.

Trophy Pope & Young elk have been taken in AZ/NM with compound bows, as well as recurve. Evidently, these setups can cut through the "gristle" and hit vitals.

I've shot Regan's Hoyt twin-cam split-limb "hot-rod" bow and that thing is crazy fast and accurate! http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/eek2.gif It's setup to shoot like 29" arrows with broad-heads that fold forward and expand back-wards when they hit.

As for "dipping" arrows from what I've seen, only Amazon pygmies do that when they are flinging arrows at monkies - no joke.

Ronald

[dboat]

Thanks Ronald,
It just seems to me that that was one big animal and I had a tough time with an arrow bringing it down.. :confused:
Dana