Ford Recall : 2000 owners

[00Bolt]

http://www.f150online.com/forums/link.cfm?link=http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050127/ford_recall_2.html

[Mark #2]

Anyone have any idea which switch they are talking about?

[00Bolt]

i dont know, but i dont recall my cruise evening working.... i think i tried on the Hallsville trip and couldnt get it to work... good thing i didnt burst into flames... :eek:

[wesman]

lol...I just read this on yahoo and was about to come post it.


Here's a direct link to the news story.
http://http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050127/ap_on_bi_ge/ford_recall


--wes

[99WhiteBeast]

"All of the incidents (36) occurred when the vehicle was parked and the ignition was turned off."

Huh- doesn't quite make sense:confused:

[Alpine]

Hey Steve, Sara called and said there was some smoke coming from the garage and asked me what she should do. I told her to back the gen 2 out,drive it around in the rain for about 30 minutes pop the hood in the driveway and wait until you get home from Chicago.:D

[SpeedyBolt]

:rll: :rll: :rll: Damn Jeff, thats just wrong!!!

[Mark #2]

"All of the incidents (36) occurred when the vehicle was parked and the ignition was turned off."

Huh- doesn't quite make sense:confused:

Yeah, why anything is energized on the cruise control while the truck in off is just:confused:

[Moonshine]

Think I'll park mine outside in the rain until I can get the switch disconnected. sounds really weird about the fires starting when the ignition is off, but I'd be really peeved to have the thing burn my house down. :(

[99WhiteBeast]

Hey Steve, Sara called and said there was some smoke coming from the garage and asked me what she should do. I told her to back the gen 2 out,drive it around in the rain for about 30 minutes pop the hood in the driveway and wait until you get home from Chicago.:D

focker:tongue:

[FRDRCING]

we have a few guys at work who drive new f150's. I hope they get there trucks in before there's burns to the ground or there house down.

[Mark #2]

Did anyone see the news clip last night? It showed the master cylinder catching fire. Is that switch on the front of the master cylinder connected to the cruise control?

[00Bolt]

anyone other than me have a 2000 model?

[Moonshine]

Mine's a '00, and I just got back from the dealership getting the "fix". Not all '00 F150's are affected by the recall, so they'll have to check your VIN. Mine was subject to the recall, but I don't know if that means all the '00 L's are impacted. The "fix" at this point is very high tech. They unplug the electrical connector immediately in front of the master cylinder. The male end of the connector (the part on the master cyl) is left open, but the female end of the connector is wrapped with electrical tape to seal it against moisture, and then zip tied out of the way. That's it. The service tech said they really didn't know when they'd have replacement parts, but FoMoCo was telling them maybe by April. Apparently, they don't have a cure developed yet. He said the current "fix" does eliminate the fire hazard, but of course you don't have cruise control.

[SILVER2000SVT]

There has to be something more to this than what is being said. How would Redoing the switch do anything because you would still have an unprotected hot wire going to it? If that is the problem wouldn't they just put an inline fuse on the unprotected circuit? Something doesn't make sense with this?

[Silver_2000]

Brian thanks for the details will save a bunch of people pointless trips to the Dealer

Looks like I upgraded just in time

[WA 2 FST]

anyone other than me have a 2000 model?

It applies to my wife's '00 Expedition, so I have to get that taken care of.

Brian, thanks for the info. I haven't bothered to really look at the switch in question. Is it _that_ obvious (like, there's only one I could see?)? If not, could someone take a pic and post it?

I read that they do not have a "fix" out for it, that they will just disconnect it. I figured it was some hard-to-reach thing under the dash.

Thx.

[WA 2 FST]

Ok, you're saying its immediately in front of the master cylinder. The one I see there (its in front of the brake fluid resevoir) is certainly an ABS sensor/connector.

The one I traced to the throttle linkage is in front of the underhood fuse box. I assume this is the one b/c the CC circuit has to get some sort of feedback from the throttle.

Just wanting clarification before I go unplugging stuff.

[Mark #2]

I saw a clip last night and they showed that sensor getting hot enough to melt the brake fluid reservoir and then catch the brake fluid on fire.:eek:

[WA 2 FST]

I saw a clip last night and they showed that sensor getting hot enough to melt the brake fluid reservoir and then catch the brake fluid on fire.:eek:

Again, this is why I need clarification on which sensor it is. The one right in front of the brake fluid reservoir? Those lines coming out of it look like ABS lines to me.

Yes, brake fluid on fire is not a good thing.

...more egg on Ford's face.:mad:

[Mark #2]

Again, this is why I need clarification on which sensor it is. The one right in front of the brake fluid reservoir? Those lines coming out of it look like ABS lines to me.

Yes, brake fluid on fire is not a good thing.

...more egg on Ford's face.:mad:

Wes,
I do not know for sure.
There is what looks like a pressure sensor on the front of the master cylinder. My thought is that when there is pressure in the master it cuts the cruise. So it is the hot side of the cruise(+), always hot unless there is pressure in the master, then open. I have wiring diagrams and voltmeter at home and will check tonight. Anyone is welcome to post a picture, as I have proven again that I still can't.

Mark

[WA 2 FST]

Ok, just so no one asks the same question I did...

The sensor on the front of the master cylinder is a brake pressure sensor switch. The plug that connects into it _is_ for the cruise control.

This is the one that needs to be removed. It sounded silly to me, but that's what I can tell from my shop manual.

[Mark #2]

Ok, just so no one asks the same question I did...

The sensor on the front of the master cylinder is a brake pressure sensor switch. The plug that connects into it _is_ for the cruise control.

This is the one that needs to be removed. It sounded silly to me, but that's what I can tell from my shop manual.

Thanks and I'm included
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http://www.ford.com/en/vehicles/owners/recalls/default.htm

[Moonshine]

It is the plug directly in front of the brake fluid reservoir. Don't have time to take a pic now, but I can take one and post it later, on the condition that nobody gives me grief about how dirty my engine compartment is. ;)

[Moonshine]

The plug -



http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/3CIMG0129-med.JPG

The fix -

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/3CIMG0130-med.JPG

The female end has been taped up and zip tied out of the way.

[WA 2 FST]

Yep. That's all I did.

Now I know my wife and kids will be safe. Thanks Ford. :(

Ford seems to have had several wiring issues which create fire hazards. I know the Fox-bodied Mustangs had an ignition switch recall for the same type of deal.

Every manufacturer has issues... those that can cause accidental death are not the ones you want to have.

[Silver_2000]

The plug -



http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/3CIMG0129-med.JPG

The fix -

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/3CIMG0130-med.JPG

The female end has been taped up and zip tied out of the way.

Moonshine

If you dont mind we should share this with the rest of the F150 world - It will save a lot of people a lot of trips to the dealer. Assuming they can confirm they are affected

Doug

[Moonshine]

Moonshine

If you dont mind we should share this with the rest of the F150 world - It will save a lot of people a lot of trips to the dealer. Assuming they can confirm they are affected

Doug

No, I don't mind sharing at all.

[SILVER2000SVT]

I called and verified that I'm on the recall. I told the service writer that I would like to do the disconnect myself. He told me that's ok, just tape the plug up good and tie it up out of the way.

[Mark #2]

Thanks Moonshine,

Also can all the 99 and 01 people post the color of the plastic on the sensor?
Mine is orange too. Are the other years a different color?
Mark

[Mark #2]

Thanks Moonshine,

Also can all the 99 and 01 people post the color of the plastic on the sensor?
Mine is orange too. Are the other years a different color?
Mark


Anyone, see above question.

Also can anyone read the part number on their 2000's sensor?

I wonder what the dealer will think about the linelock?

[Sixpipes]

99 sensor & stock configuration.



http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/8sensor.JPG

[my2002lightning]

Mine is Red/Orange, too. I was curious to check, myself.

[99WhiteBeast]

Mine looks the same as Sixer's- I faded red to orange.

[liteitup]

my 01 is red/orange

[Mark #2]

Okay, thanks guys. The only commonality I have found so far is the angle of the sensor, maybe over torqued? Can anyone read the part numbers on the switch?

[Sixpipes]

Looks like the last five numbers are 83083. :cool:

[99WhiteBeast]

Mine is more at the 2 o'clock postion where Sixer's is at 11

[Mark #2]

Mine is more at the 2 o'clock postion where Sixer's is at 11

Yeah, all of the 2000's that I've seen so far are at 2:00, including mine. May not mean a thing.:confused:

[TP Derrick D]

Got my recall letter last week,went to Nichols and a service writer pulled it and taped it off. Put me on the call list for repairs, probably sometime in April. I have never used my cruise anyway that I remember.

[Silver_2000]

I got the letter for my sold 2000 the other day

[my2002lightning]

Wow! Looks like this '00 L wasn't so lucky with the cruise-control defect.

Evidently, the owner said he parked it around midnight and found it approx. 7 hrs. later - he said it burned the block,etc. so badly, he could actually see the cams. http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/eek2.gif

That just hurts me to look! http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif

http://fordtruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/topic.ten?pos=1&id=356423


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[TP Derrick D]

There is a x-cab F-150 @ Nichols in FW that did the same thing. Caught fire while just sitting. Not quite that much damage but its probably a total since the front end is half gone.Plus I'm sure its value is less than that L's.

[Tex Arcana]

_whew_ thank goodness I'm not on that list!! :eek2: But it kills me that someone misdesigned the circuit to the point where it is energized while the vehicle is off... :mad:

[TP Derrick D]

Got mine fixed @ Nichols Ford last Thursday. Anyone else?

[Alpine]

I just took mine completely out for weight reduction...:d Oh , and Mike, WASH YOUR S***!:evil

[Tex Arcana]

I've heard somewhere that Ford expanded the recall to all F150s... wonder if that's true...:(

[TP Derrick D]

I've heard somewhere that Ford expanded the recall to all F150s... wonder if that's true...:(

probably so since they all use the same parts such as that. There is a F150 on Nichols back lot the whole front end is melted from this,probably Expeditions also since they are built on an F150 frame and carry the 5.4.

[Tex Arcana]

probably so since they all use the same parts such as that. There is a F150 on Nichols back lot the whole front end is melted from this,probably Expeditions also since they are built on an F150 frame and carry the 5.4.

I just rn mine on Ford's recall database, and it doesn't show any recalls on it. Hopefully, this stays this way.

[Silver_2000]

More details from CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/16/ford.vehicles/index.html

F150s from 93 to 2003 impacted

[Flats Man]

Moonshine had the recall done on his 2000 before I bought it. I took it into Bob Utter Ford yesterday, in Sherman, and they had me in and out the door in about 20 minutes. I will try to get a picture of the new piece and post it. At least I now have cruise control for the trip back to Florida on Saturday!