EBC's

[SILVER2000SVT]

I'm looking to get some brakes sometime relatively soon. I'm trying to hold out as long as I can, but these NAPA ceramics are giving my rotors a beating. I'm going to try and get the EBC rotors (money will dictate that), for both front and rear and some good pads. I see where EBC makes another "green stuff" in a 7000 series for our trucks. What's the difference between this and the 6000 series? Also what are your thoughts on the Hawk pads that the guys on the other board are raving about, or possible other brands?

As far as the pads go, I don't care about dusting, or how long they last, I just want them to stop the truck well, and not destroy the rotors.

[StormShadow]

....I'm also somewhat interested.....

[L8 APEX]

EBC is giving me hell on pricing I am about to boycot them. THeir full pkg with rotors, EBC pads is $750 carry out 850 installed. $50 for fresh fluid and bleed. I prefer their pads I ran them on my Brembos. Hawk is a harsh pad in the HP+. I have a set of fronts nw in box for 300 carry out.

[SILVER2000SVT]

EBC is giving me hell on pricing I am about to boycot them. THeir full pkg with rotors, EBC pads is $750 carry out 850 installed. $50 for fresh fluid and bleed. I prefer their pads I ran them on my Brembos. Hawk is a harsh pad in the HP+. I have a set of fronts nw in box for 300 carry out.

That sucks, it sounds like they are really giving you a really hard time on pricing.

EDIT.............

[L8 APEX]

That sucks, it sounds like they are really giving you a really hard time on pricing. It looks like average joe pricing is around $560 (no shipping and the 6000 series pads) for the set. At tirerack.com they were $199 for the Front rotors, $62 for the 6000 series pads, $47 for the rear pads, and they didn't have the rear rotors, but I saw them somewhere else for $250
This sounds like when you ordered the pulley from RPM Outlet because they were cheaper. Maybe TireRack can change your next MonsterBox for you to:Bullshit .

[SILVER2000SVT]

This sounds like when you ordered the pulley from RPM Outlet because they were cheaper. Maybe TireRack can change your next MonsterBox for you to:Bullshit .

Dude...W.T.F....I really hope you are kidding.

[dboat]

Terry installed my EBC's a while ago.. in fact I was the first Talon guy to get them. They are fantastic, I love hitting them and seeing the passenger practically fly thru the windshield. They have saved my bacon from having an accident a few times, that the stockers wouldnt have done. The money is well spent IMHO. Just let Terry do it for you...
Terry, you still have those pics of my brakes?
Dana

[TP Derrick D]

Terry installed my EBC's a while ago.. in fact I was the first Talon guy to get them. They are fantastic, I love hitting them and seeing the passenger practically fly thru the windshield. They have saved my bacon from having an accident a few times, that the stockers wouldnt have done. The money is well spent IMHO. Just let Terry do it for you...
Terry, you still have those pics of my brakes?
Dana


Terry did mine a couple months before L fest 1, so what Dana said." Let Terry do them".

[03LightningRocks]

Terry installed my EBC's a while ago.. in fact I was the first Talon guy to get them. They are fantastic, I love hitting them and seeing the passenger practically fly thru the windshield. They have saved my bacon from having an accident a few times, that the stockers wouldnt have done. The money is well spent IMHO. Just let Terry do it for you...
Terry, you still have those pics of my brakes?
Dana

Well said Dana. I concur. The quality of Terry's work is worth the price of admission.


Rocks:tu: :tu: :tu:

[99WhiteBeast]

get the green stuff- I'll have to check but I think I've had mine on for well over 40k

[SILVER2000SVT]

get the green stuff- I'll have to check but I think I've had mine on for well over 40k

Which green stuff? They have two different versions of the "green stuff" available for the front.

[L8 APEX]

I am trying to make a living here and don't appreciate you posting up how overpriced I am and telling my customer base where to buy them cheaper. Obviously I cannot compete with TireRack a faceless internet business that offers no service or installation. I can't beat WalMart type wholesale businesses, and they cannot offer my services. I can't tell you how many phone calls I take on Sundays, after hours, how many nights I worked through or miles I have driven to get a customer running again. That is what my customers pay for. Just recently Larry's truck was making a noise after lowering. I drove to his house after 10 at night and jacked it up. I then ran down my contacts and set him up with the dealer that would take care of his problem without hassle. Once Ros check engine light came on on a Sunday, I was there to scan and fix the issue. Last week Adam couldn't get a ride to the shop. So I picked his truck up did the job and delivered it back. Could he have bought a TVS kit online a few bucks cheaper? Probably, but he respects me enough to buy it from me. There will always be someone cheaper but lets see if they answer the phone when you need help, and offer to open up there shop:Bullshit .

[dboat]

Terry well said. You have to support those that support you.
Dana

[SILVER2000SVT]

That’s BS. Maybe I could’ve been a little more discrete about posting info. No one is asking you to beat or even match the prices that companies with no service sell them for. You claim to offer service, but it’s always been service with an attitude.



I am one of your best customers and you give me so much crap. You are still giving me crap about a pulley I tried to buy at RPM outlet two years ago. This was before I even knew about you. Again, you gave me grief about it a couple of months ago and I even apologized for it to try and get on your good side. From that point on two years ago 100% of anything I bought new, I bought from you. You did 100% of any work that I had done (other than warranty work). I can’t even count the number of people that I sent your way, whether they ended up being a customer or just a phone call I don’t know. Now how many of your other customers can say that? As far as the Monster Box? I was under the impression that because you don’t have a fulltime job you need all the work you can get. By the way you talk you act like you don’t want the work. I’m getting mixed input, you told me that you didn’t care about making a large amount on the parts (I know you need to make some), but you complain and give me grief because I bought a few used parts that you didn’t make $5 or $10 each on but gave you well over $1200 in easy labor business. You should check your back pocket before you alienate your customers.



I just mentioned these prices as information for you, so that you can find the best prices to pass along to your customers. If this is below your cost, I just did you a favor so you can buy them at a now lower cost. As far as mark up, I don’t mind paying a little more to support a mechanic that offers good service, I never have. That, however doesn’t mean I have to be uneducated about what things cost and what other people are selling them for. I can easily justify spending 5-10% more on what the going price is to help you out, as I think most people would. I’m not taking any business away from you, anybody else can find those prices just as well as I can. People like myself don't care about paying bottom dollar if we know that we can get good service.



I understand if you don’t want to do me any more “favors” by getting paid to work on my truck.

[03LightningRocks]

Well, this situation sucks. It looks like one of them thare misunderstandings;) .

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/226558.gifJust to point out how screwed up trying to read meaning into internet messages can be, I thought it was a post designed to beat up on Terry's price too.

I see that I was wrong, and will say that I can see how Terry might have misinterpreted your post. He does catch alot of the price pounding from some of our members and is possibly a little sensitive about the whole "meet the price" game.

Now everybody has to hug and make up.... http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/226558.gif



Rocks:beer:

[SILVER2000SVT]

Well, this situation sucks. It looks like one of them thare misunderstandings;) .

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/226558.gifJust to point out how screwed up trying to read meaning into internet messages can be, I thought it was a post designed to beat up on Terry's price too.

I see that I was wrong, and will say that I can see how Terry might have misinterpreted your post. He does catch alot of the price pounding from some of our members and is possibly a little sensitive about the whole "meet the price" game.

Now everybody has to hug and make up.... http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/226558.gif



Rocks:beer:


Like I said, I could've been a little more discrete about it. I'll pull out some of that info now. I probably should have done that in a more private form of communication.

[03LightningRocks]

Like I said, I could've been a little more discrete about it. I'll pull out some of that info now. I probably should have done that in a more private form of communication. I still feel that even if I would have done that it would have misinterpretated as well though.


I don't really know that you did anything wrong. I think it's just that sh!t happens...:D .

I can relate, to a certain extent. Being in the A/C business, we get alot of the, "you too much...I want cheapy cheapy", Asian BullSh!t. I realized long ago that it isn't worth doing if I can't make a profit. We don't play the bargainmatic game. I figure out what it costs to provide a great service and product and that is that. Since I can't pick and choose, which customers get crappy service and which customers get the grade A service, I choose to give them all grade A service and let the Cheap Arses take a walk.

Terry really doesn't have this luxairy, his market is smaller, so he may at times feel a bit trapped. Some of those that have used others prices to pound on Terry may want to think about this. We need him around to help us with our Lightnings. It is worth it to pay him a few extra bucks and have a guy we KNOW can be trusted.

He does great work.........I know...I have alot of vehicles that get worked on.


Rocks:D

[SILVER2000SVT]

Different people have different definitions of what good service is:

If you claim to be a service provider and not make selling goods a priority, you don’t give people grief that buy parts from elsewhere and pay to get service from you, remember “you are not into selling the parts to make a living, just providing the service”.

You don’t give people grief for buying something before they even knew about you.

If you provide good service, no one will complain about a few $$ increase on products. But if you are 30%-40% higher on an identical part (not cheap Asian knockoffs) than what a person can easily find you can’t be upset when people don’t buy from you. You should take it as a compliment that they still trust you to work on their vehicle.

Lightning owners take a lot of pride in their trucks, and some, like myself, like to work on them their selves. If when I take my truck to someone else to work on because either I don’t have the time or equipment, I expect not to get grief about doing some of these other things myself.

If you ask for something in particular (like special brand fluid), and you see your service provider pouring in cheap discount fluid, that’s not my definition of good service.

When you pour out several hundred dollars for something like a transmission installation and it’s leaking all over the garage floor after I get it back, and I ask “what do I need to do”, I get somewhat offended when I get the answer, “it’s not my problem, I didn’t sell it to you.”

[Nuhklz]

... Just recently Larry's truck was making a noise after lowering. I drove to his house after 10 at night and jacked it up. I then ran down my contacts and set him up with the dealer that would take care of his problem without hassle...

I offered to bring the truck back to the shop but Terry wouldn't let me drive it until he came by my house to check it out to make sure it was safe. That's what we pay for and that made a believer out of me http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

[StormShadow]

Last week Adam couldn't get a ride to the shop. So I picked his truck up did the job and delivered it back.

:tu:

[SILVER2000SVT]

I'm a paying customer too...He does that for you guys, but when I was in a pinch and needed help getting my truck up to his shop or getting a ride home he wouldn't hear of it. I offered to pay him what ever he thought was fair to come pick up the truck to help me out, but I never got any kind of service like that.

[03LightningRocks]

I offered to bring the truck back to the shop but Terry wouldn't let me drive it until he came by my house to check it out to make sure it was safe. That's what we pay for and that made a believer out of me http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif


Oh yeah....well he had me taken back to Plano in a Limo. He paid to have the bar stocked and last week, I received a Wine and cheese basket from him:D .



Rocks........:ron:

[L8 APEX]

You boys are silly, haven't you ever heard you can't make everyone happy. Well I do about a 95% job of it:d . I definately give service with attittude it is the way it is and most have learned to ignore me. I can't go to everyones house but sometimes it works out. Jason you must admit you are about as ood/difficult as I am about some things. As far as the $$ on tranny work most of that came from Jasper in the form of reimbursed warranty work.
You have a few misconceptions here that I don't make money on parts or that this is a part time job. Wrong on both accounts, I do sell parts, install and tune them to make a living this is my soul source of income. There is no unemployment ins, no rich parents, nothing but the fruits of my labors at the shop. I could care less about competing with the big internet ho's. I make my cutomers the best deals I can and charge to install cusotmer supplied parts accordingly. Yeah, I spout off smart comments a little too often but it is the way it is. As I said most have learned ot ignore it. I am not happy unless I get to bitch about something:D

A few years ago I would have gotten upset and added you to the PRshit_list for posting how much cheaper you found one of my products in MY supporting vendor forum. But I understand you are a little odd and did not mean anything negative to come of it. As it sets I will be happy to install your TireRack rotors and Scotts fuel door etc. I love each and every one of you guys and my only goal in life it to make each and every Lightning the best it can be:tu:

[Nuhklz]

Oh yeah....well he had me taken back to Plano in a Limo. He paid to have the bar stocked and last week, I received a Wine and cheese basket from him:D .



Rocks........:ron:

http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl2.gif Oh yeah?? Well he let me buy him a hamburger the last time he worked on my truck.

[03LightningRocks]

http://www.talonclub.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl2.gif Oh yeah?? Well he let me buy him a hamburger the last time he worked on my truck.


Hey wait a darned minute here. It's time to get serious. He got to me for a BBQ lunch plate. I see whats going on. Terry is scamming us for the free lunch deal...:d .

Anybody else been getting hood winked into buying Terry's lunch???



Rocks:rll:

[REXRENEGADE]

"I love each and every one of you guys and my only goal in life it to make each and every Lightning the best it can be":tu:

Yo Terry
My Lightning will be better and more loved with a Hotchkis set up ;)
Don't you agree ?

Get the EBC's from Terry there primo!

[bobbywade69]

Terry's service without a smile and a attitude just wouldn't be Terry!! We all just about have sent some cash with Terry I know I have sent well over 5G with me and probley still owe him:D He been there to help me out he built me a tranny on a Holiday week and rushed parts in so I could get her running again so I could work! But we all take his loving comments about my truck being a gay color or the stickers or pulleys being gay! Its all part of Terry!:evil But hes there to help us out and I'm willing to pay the extra price!:tu:




You boys are silly, haven't you ever heard you can't make everyone happy. Well I do about a 95% job of it:d . I definately give service with attittude it is the way it is and most have learned to ignore me. I can't go to everyones house but sometimes it works out. Jason you must admit you are about as ood/difficult as I am about some things. As far as the $$ on tranny work most of that came from Jasper in the form of reimbursed warranty work.
You have a few misconceptions here that I don't make money on parts or that this is a part time job. Wrong on both accounts, I do sell parts, install and tune them to make a living this is my soul source of income. There is no unemployment ins, no rich parents, nothing but the fruits of my labors at the shop. I could care less about competing with the big internet ho's. I make my cutomers the best deals I can and charge to install cusotmer supplied parts accordingly. Yeah, I spout off smart comments a little too often but it is the way it is. As I said most have learned ot ignore it. I am not happy unless I get to bitch about something:D

A few years ago I would have gotten upset and added you to the PRshit_list for posting how much cheaper you found one of my products in MY supporting vendor forum. But I understand you are a little odd and did not mean anything negative to come of it. As it sets I will be happy to install your TireRack rotors and Scotts fuel door etc. I love each and every one of you guys and my only goal in life it to make each and every Lightning the best it can be:tu:

[wesman]

lol...I learned long ago to let Terry talk and then flip him the bird when he's done :D

[03LightningRocks]

Terry to the rescue again today. Thanks Terry.......you gave me a couple less things to deal with before my trip...Rocks:beer:

[BC Lightning]

Terry is a smartass, but he really does care about all of our trucks as well as the people who drive them. I have done my fair share of internet buying, but I want to help out the person who helps me out. While my truck has been at the shop I stayed up there on three straight nights till 12:00a.m. each night while he was trying to figure out and fix my truck. not to mention he had worked on it from about 10:00 in the morning. He might give me grief and make jikes, but I know that it is all in fun. One night I couldn't get a ride home so he let me borrow ol' blue to get to school in the morning.


I just want to help and take care of the person who helps and takes care of me.

[L8 APEX]

You missed the good ol' days Mike. I use to have a loaner 6spd vette Fred took to breakfast while I did his exhaust job. I let Jake and Melissa roll my 01 Lightning one day when working on his truck. Whatever it took to get the job done.:tu:

[skalywags]

Which green stuff? They have two different versions of the "green stuff" available for the front.
this post went way south before this got answered. what was the answer as far as the "green" stuff. I'm about to do brakes, and probably shocks, soon. Terry what is the install price for the EBC rotors, pads, nowadays.

[L8 APEX]

EBC raised prices for 05 claiming steel price blah blah blah. I have kept my prices the same to absorb the increase. I only use the 6000 series green stuuf for truck/suv. They make one level higher pad but it costs double and comes in a fancy case. I believe the 00-up kits are 700 carry out and 800 installed. Plus 50 to bleed the system with new fluid.

[skalywags]

When you give a price of $800, is that out the door - meaning tax included. If so I want them, and am wondering if you can get them and install them the weekend after next. I have a cross country race next weekend. If so let me know. If you want a deposit to order I can do that. If it only takes a few days to get them, and you want me to pay up front I can do that next Friday.