NEW! Oil Separators

[L8 APEX]

I have 3 new oil separator kits in stock. Come and get'em:tu: .

[FRDRCING]

One day to late :hammer:

[SILVER2000SVT]

I'm interested.

What does it look like? And how much?

[PoorSvtman]

i totaly elimintated my pvc system. Most of the oil comes from the drivers side. My breather on that side is black and the passanger side is still white.

[BC Lightning]

I'll be by the shop tomorrow to pick one up, I also need to get the oil changed and fuel filter. :D

[L8 APEX]

Here is a pic of an 01 intake I cleaned last week.

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/medium/CIMG2437.JPG

[PoorSvtman]

geebus! :eek:

[03LightningRocks]

OK Terry..........it works. Over the weekend, that darned thing managed to get about half full. I will be keeping this one....:tu: .

A few of the fellers around the pits noticed it and all commented on how the oil that was being caught was enough to create problems such as detonation and I can tell you from my knowledge of heat transfer...that much oil on the heat exchanger coils is enough to destroy the heat transfer.

Let me know what I owe ya for it if you didn't already add it to the charges the other day.


Rocksknana

[PoorSvtman]

one thing that i noticed when i had mine was that when it stoped collecting oil the little filter was clogged.. Mine clogged every few weeks so I said screw it and eliminated the pvc system so not one drop of oil can come in through the passenger or drivers side

[L8 APEX]

10's are priceless:evil

[PoorSvtman]

On a side note... Terry I remeber when i first got my L all I heard about these little seperators that they were ghey? Care to explain the change of heart on the product.

[L8 APEX]

It is just an evolution of performance. With guys wanting more power and performance it became a factor. After building, replacing, cleaning a few intercoolers and engines I decided to offer them to my cusotmers. After talking to some engine builders and senior mechanics I learned that excessive oil and vapor can cause detonation.

[PoorSvtman]

My only concern is that theres a fix for the passanger side... yet there is still the problem on the drivers side...

[L8 APEX]

Nobody is doing much about that side it is a lot smaller line. One company made a PCV valve you could install but I don't see them anymore. Catch what you can and burn the rest..

[PoorSvtman]

alot smaller? not by much. I actualy think its bigger on the drivers side...

But my fix was to cap the line that goes to the lower intake, cap the upper plenum, but a breather on the pass. valve cover... Drives side i pluged the intake boot, and added a breather... The drivers side breather turned black within a week and the passenger side turned gray within a month or so. % months later and no mess and no codes i cant complain

[L8 APEX]

Sounds like you got it all figured out:tu:

[03LightningRocks]

I use to think I could clog up unwanted holes in my system too...LOL. That is untill the pressure in the valve covers blew my fricking PCV system apart. After i finished wiping the oil from all over my engine compartment, I got that jury rigged sh!t out of my truck. I know many others that learned the same lesson the same way.

Anyway...here is what mine looked like after one weekend of racing. It may not look like alot to you guys, but imagine this much oil spread evenly over those coils and misted all in the intake air.

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Oil.jpg

[PoorSvtman]

Rocks as memory serves me you had the dime mod... This basicly just blocked the upper plenum and didnt realy allow the pressure/vapors to go anywhere. The tube that goes to the lower intake has a type of check valve, so basicly when under boost the pressure had no where to go so it poped the vac line off. I tired the dime mod for a few days and had the same problems you did daily driving....

I went with the same exact seperator that you are runing rocks.. It did work but it still let oil through when i used it.. Not much but still some. I saw shocktherapy post up on f150online his fix and copied it exactly. Its probly 100% effective i believe... I used all stock hoses, etc and just got some little filters from vatozone. I dont have oil soaked all over my motor or bay at all..

I ran the separtor for about 6 months after a cleaning and now i have the breathers. I plan on pulling the blower to take a peek at the intercooler.Ill post pics.


Guys that are running the separators... If you see that the oil isnt gathering as much as it was, unscrew the gold filter and clean it. That was my only problem with it and seemed to keep it working properly.

I have read almost every thread on every forum on this subject. What most of the members out there dont like to understand is that every truck is different. Some trucks dont have the oil problem and some have it bad like the pic terry posted above.. Just like tunes, one truck will respond great to a tune and another truck with the same tune can run like crap.

[03LightningRocks]

Yep...I had the infamous dime mod.....that sh!t was the dumbest thing I have done to date. Just a hair ahead of the Plasma Booster...LOL.


Rocks

[PoorSvtman]

only one way to find out... Thats why i went with the breathers and caping **** off.. No one else i know of around here did it, so i figured what the heck.

[dboat]

I use to think I could clog up unwanted holes in my system too...LOL. That is untill the pressure in the valve covers blew my fricking PCV system apart. After i finished wiping the oil from all over my engine compartment, I got that jury rigged sh!t out of my truck. I know many others that learned the same lesson the same way.

Anyway...here is what mine looked like after one weekend of racing. It may not look like alot to you guys, but imagine this much oil spread evenly over those coils and misted all in the intake air.

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Oil.jpg

Looks just like the one that Terry installed in mine about 3 years ago..

[Tex Arcana]

Rocks as memory serves me you had the dime mod... This basicly just blocked the upper plenum and didnt realy allow the pressure/vapors to go anywhere. The tube that goes to the lower intake has a type of check valve, so basicly when under boost the pressure had no where to go so it poped the vac line off. I tired the dime mod for a few days and had the same problems you did daily driving....

I went with the same exact seperator that you are runing rocks.. It did work but it still let oil through when i used it.. Not much but still some. I saw shocktherapy post up on f150online his fix and copied it exactly. Its probly 100% effective i believe... I used all stock hoses, etc and just got some little filters from vatozone. I dont have oil soaked all over my motor or bay at all..

I ran the separtor for about 6 months after a cleaning and now i have the breathers. I plan on pulling the blower to take a peek at the intercooler.Ill post pics.


Guys that are running the separators... If you see that the oil isnt gathering as much as it was, unscrew the gold filter and clean it. That was my only problem with it and seemed to keep it working properly.

I have read almost every thread on every forum on this subject. What most of the members out there dont like to understand is that every truck is different. Some trucks dont have the oil problem and some have it bad like the pic terry posted above.. Just like tunes, one truck will respond great to a tune and another truck with the same tune can run like crap.


I just bought me the Campbell-Hausfield oil separators, in preparation for installation after I try to arm-twist the dealer into cleaning up the mess. I'm uploading pics now of the snorkel and TB, and the mess under the snorkel; and I think I found out why: noe PCV valve in the driver's side valve cover. :eek2: NOw, you did mention the tube from the driver's side valve cover has a check-valve, but in my case it failed miserably. THe passenger side is significantly cleaner, tho.

So, I got me two separators, one for each side. I've already measured the hoses and pre-cut them, and dry-fit them. ANd while doing this, I found that "missing" PCV valve, and it pissed me off to no end!!

So, if the dealer decides not to clean thing up, I'll be pulling the blower and cleaning up the mess (and Terry's pic shows me what I'm looking forward to :(). And I will probably find a way to fit a traditional PCV valve in that fitting in the DS valve cover, and plumbing it into a separator.

And I"m gonna stuff some steel wool into the line just upstream of the PCV valves. WHY??? do you ask??? 'cuz (he said in a :ron:), when I had my old '79 Supra, I pulled down the top end to rebuild the head, and when I had the head out for milling, I was cleaning the oil infiltration in the intake tubes (sound familiar?), and realized that Toyota's idea of PCV was a set of aluminum baffles in the valve cover, and nothing else. Well, DUh, it sucked oil! So I drilled a couple of drain holes in the bottom plate, and stuffed 000 steel wool into the baffle cavity. Worked like a charm: the wool would capture any suspended oil in the PCV air, and the drain holes let it drain back into the cam area.

So, I"ll put about 2-3" of steel wool intot he hoses just upstream of the PCV valves, and make sure the tail of it is at least touching the topside of the PCV valve, so it'll drain thru the valve and back into the engine.

Yes, crazy.. but I"m crazy.. LIKE A FOX! MUAHAHAHA!!

It still ticks me off they did'nt use a traditional PCV valve on that thing, tho... anyone know why??

Pics forthcoming, likely another thread.

EDIT: I just finished reading the F150Online thread about PCV and separators, and now I've rethinking things again. I know the one on the passenger's side is getting a separator; the driver's side may keep its separator, if only to prevent that "regurge" the L PCV system seems to do under boost. Hmmm. :confused:

[PoorSvtman]

thats why i emliminated the pcv system.. No oil will ever get into my intake no matter what.

[Tex Arcana]

thats why i emliminated the pcv system.. No oil will ever get into my intake no matter what.

One thing I do know, is that PCV does more than just scavenge gases: it also places the crankcase under slight vacuum, which helps the rings seat better.


After reading the thread on F150.com, and sleeping on this, plus a bit of info from a few other sources, and I'm getting a better idea of what's going on.

A friend of mine suggested that I may be gettign some blowby somewhere in my motor, which might explain some of the junk in the boot; but, if there's supposed to be a check valve in the tube, then there shouldn't be such a mess.

I think what I'm gonna do, tho, is install a check valve in the snorkel tube, that will prevent any kind of regurge back into the snorkel. That way, I can eliminate the second separator, and eliminate the flow that's causing the oil contamination.

On second thought, tho, leaving the separator between the check valve and the valve cover will help control oil contamination of the check valve, and perhaps help it live longer. Again, more food for thought.

[Tex Arcana]

Terry, do you happen to have a diagram of how the PCV system is setup on our trucks??