Any update on the availability of the Whipple 2.2L blower?

[WA 2 FST]

Subject says it all. Anyone? Best guess for timetable? As it gets closer to production (you have to figure it's getting closer, right? :banana: ), I figure I'd be smart to go ahead and wait for it vs. getting a KB.

Or maybe I'm stupid for not just leaving the truck alone.

[Silver_2000]

I saw them put a whipple on a 05 f150 on TV this weekend does that help ???

[rickgig]

I haven't heard anything but don't forget... I'd like to assist when you put it on...

[WA 2 FST]

No problem, Rick.

I'd like to install it, but it is either going to take Terry to tune it w/ my SCT 9100 or I'm going to have to ante up for the SCT Pro version so I can tune it myself.

I'm not shooting for any HP/TQ records, either. Just like 450rwhp/500rwtq w/ basically just bolting on a blower (no exhaust, no Cobra water pump, no e-fan...hopefully no new trans or block!). I would hope 14-15psi from an efficient blower w/ a good tune does the trick.

[03LightningRocks]

Wes,

I am pretty sure I am not telling you anthing you don't already know, but your rods may like you better if you at least do some kind of long tubes to help with the extra flow your going to get from that Whipple.


Oh...and I heard it would be two weeks :evil .

[WA 2 FST]

I don't want to do long tubes. I do understand what you're saying, and certainly know enough about forced induction to realize I'm leaving lots of power potential on the table if I stick with the stock exhaust. However, I would think (and I could be wrong) that as long as I limit the max power that the engine would be ok.

I guess then the discussion turns to the limits of the stock block/internals... a subject that is widely debated. My research shows ~450rwhp/500rwtq is ok. But I could be wrong for sure! :)

[03LightningRocks]

The 450-500 number has, in most cases, been acheived using long tubes to relieve some of the pressures created by the extra boost needed to get there.

I never really saw long tubes as a power adder. I was more concerned with reducing any kind of restriction that might possibly increase load on the internals. I am not an authority on the subject, by any means, but in my case, long tubes did two things. It reduced the boost pressure I read by about 1.5 PSI and reduced the exhaust gas temperature by about 150 degrees, all while producing slightly more H.P. and torque. It seemed to me that this effeciency increase would translate into less stress....I dunno....LOL... just a speculatin on my part. At the very least, decreasing the heat of the exhaust would help to stave off detonation a little. I always saw it as accumulative...a little here...a little there...all adds up to alot.

I also noticed a trend at the time with blown motors. It seemed like alot of them didn't have long tubes...or after market heat exchangers to help disapate heat better.

I am sure you know what the formula, 2.65 per H.P. is all about....and that's at the flywheel. If you figure that the standard stock block can handle, safely, around 1000 PSI (peak), anything above that is pushing your luck the further you go. Any mod that makes for better effeciency, is a good mod in my book.

Like I said...I figured you where aware of it....hell, you could bury me in the knowledge you have of enternal combustion engines....:beer: . I mostly just wanted to give the subject honorable mention for the folks that are new and maybe not aware of the multiple reasons for headers.

[WA 2 FST]

Long tubes are great for blown motors if you're trying to reach the maximum potential of the motor. There is no debate on this at all. In your case you saw a slight increase in HP/TQ and at the same time _reduced_ boost pressure. If you turn around and increase boost pressure back up to the original level, then there is a decent gain by adding the headers. :)

You're right though... seeing more power via less boost (and added boost = added heat, given the same compressor, no way around that) has its advantages. That's why I'm a believer that you get the most efficient compressor you can possible. You can run the same, or more boost, than a less efficient blower and be _safer_ b/c combustion temps are reduced.

Adding long tubes takes it a step further, so its even better. I just didn't want to have to mess with them. I've run long tubes on Mustangs for many years and they were always a PITA, and they were quality headers (not MAC or some other crap). Things were always tighter with the headers, they would rub on stuff, add heat around the starter and other wiring harnesses you didn't necessarily want to get hot, they would decrease ground clearance (probably not an issue with the truck), etc.

I have an aftermarket heat exchanger. I do believe that is an excellent mod that is well worth the $$ given the propensity for these blowers to create tons of heat when they are flogged, or the outside ambient temp gets really high like it does here in TX.

I appreciate the discussion!

[SpeedyBolt]

Long tubes will deffinatly be my next mod! Now that I have a ported blower (+2lbs) and a 6# lower, I think I'm real close to the BFDU sendrome! I need to lower my boost pressure a little so Long tubes are a must for me!

[cpeapea]

LT's do add good amounts of power on more highly modded trucks.

[Tex Arcana]

Wes, I was on the WHipple site the other day, and they have pricing for the Lightning kits ($3800 iirc); as for actuall availability, a phone call would do you right.

That said, I was at the SVTPerformance local photo shoot this past weekend, and one of the Cobras there has a brand-spanking-new Whipple kit, and he was grinnin' like a chicken pickin' sh*t out of a wire brush, he was so happy with it. He said he got his in a group buy, for about $2800 for the kit.

They exist. Call 'em. Then call me, 'cuz I wanna help out with the job. :d