The Official TALON Fall Classic thread - PICTURE LINK

[Sixpipes]

The TALON Fall Classic for 2005 will be held at the Temple Academy Dragway (http://www.templeacademy.com/) on December 3, 2005. Rainout date is December 10.

$8 (Spectators)
$20 (T&T only)
$35 (Race fee includes T&T)
Bracket Racing (flexible dial-in / set your own dial-in on every run)
$10 buy-back after first round loss only (optional for all racers)

Format is single elimination bracket racing with awards to be given out as follows:

Awards for (during competition only):
Lowest ET
Best Reaction time
Closest to Dial-in

Awards for (during competition only):
1st Place
2nd Place
Semifinalist (2)

I will be visiting the Temple Academy Dragway on November 5, to confirm the details and also will be making a few passes to address safety concerns previously expressed by club members (specifically the run-off area). :cool:

[ShockTherapy]

Here's hoping you guys have a great event. :beer: I would be there, but seeing that it's twice as far from me to Temple as it was Hallsville, looks like I'm out this year. I'd love to come, just can't afford to make two 900+ mile round trips in less than 3 months.

[03LightningRocks]

I'll be there.........:tu: . That low ET plaque is going to look good sitting next to the first place trophy I plan to walk away with.



Rocks:D

[True Blue Aggie]

I'll be there.........:tu: . That low ET plaque is going to look good sitting next to the first place trophy I plan to walk away with.



Rocks:D

Whatever old man.....Just remember that I am the champ until you or someone beats me. And I have seen your reaction times....you ain't beating me.






as long as i don't red-light or break out or do something stupid like I have been for the past three months....

[Mark #2]

Whatever old man.....Just remember that I am the champ until you or someone beats me. And I have seen your reaction times....you ain't beating me.

as long as i don't red-light or break out or do something stupid like I have been for the past three months....

Yeah and I'm going to run 118 octane, and 23 lbs of boost and beat him on ET on a stock motor.

[True Blue Aggie]

This just means he's gonna have to earn it. See you in December Rocks...:evil

[PUMP]

I'll be there. I also volunter as a go'fer or in any other capacity to help where ever needed.
Thanks Michael and Mark for your Dial-in time advice and other pointers on Sunday at Redline.:bows
The truck did it's job almost flawlessly, but I lost in the third round to the eventual winner of the Super Class because of a poor .2-second reaction time.:hammer:

[Mark #2]

Great job, you went farther than both of us.

I think I need to be out of the Pro class, truck ran 7.37 on a 7.35 dial and I lost with a .600 light.

Mark

[BC Lightning]

I'll be there.........:tu: . That low ET plaque is going to look good sitting next to the first place trophy I plan to walk away with.



Rocks:D

I have something up my sleeve for ya :evil :nana2

[L8 APEX]

I will think of what PR can do to richen the spoils of this event:tu:

[wesman]

Here's to a rainy Dec 3rd :beer:

--wes :throw:

[FRDRCING]

I look forward to being there this year

[L8 APEX]

Here's to a rainy Dec 3rd :beer:

--wes :throw:
We can arrange a driver for your rig if you'd like:tu: .

[03LightningRocks]

Here's to a rainy Dec 3rd :beer:

--wes :throw:


:rll: :rll: :rll:

[PoorSvtman]

Can i ride with some one?

[Sixpipes]

I've seen a video of you trying to catch a ride before and it's not pretty. Good luck. :evil

[03LightningRocks]

I've seen a video of you trying to catch a ride before and it's not pretty. Good luck. :evil

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16133&limit=recent


:eek:

[Sixpipes]

I visited the Temple Academy Dragway yesterday and talked with the track owners. The track is definitely small with only 4 stages lanes, but I think it will be just fine for The TALON Fall Classic. The track was surprisingly wide with even a wider shutdown area. The shutdown area is kinda short, but not dangerously so. The configuration is similar to Kennedale; a small turnaround at the end of the track. There is also another emergency runoff beyond that which is approximately 50 yards long. I can't imagine any of us having problems getting the trucks shutdown safely at the end of a run. Linda indicated that they have 7 and 8 second cars that run at the track on a regular basis.

I arrived at the track at 2PM and the ambulance and track folks were the only ones there. I made a quick trip over to Salado with the little woman and was back by 3PM. The first car showed at about 3:20. Since I took my wife's Acura TL we decided not to stay, but I did drive down the track to inspect everything. Make no mistake, this is not Ennis or Cherokee County or Thunder Valley, but I think it will work just fine. If yesterday's schedule was any indication, we can have the track practically to ourselves if we are ready to run at 3PM. I even thought about just running our program during test and tune in order to get back home at a decent time, but I think we have an obligation to stay for the "official" race program schedule of 7PM. It would also allow folks coming from farther away, a little time to get to the track and make some runs before we race. Besides, racing at night is cool.

The track owners expect maybe 30 vehicles for the Olds/Buick event and maybe another 30 to 40 test and tune vehicles beside what shows up for our race. Let the smack talk begin. I plan on winning this thing and shutting everyone up. :evil

[Sixpipes]

Temple Academy Dragway has agreed to print the following flyer and pass it out at their track for the next three weeks to help promote the race. If any of you want to print copies and hand out where appropriate, please feel free to do so. You might want to add track phone number or something like that because these were designed to hand out at the track only. :cool:

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/medium/TFC_IV.jpg

[T Hogg]

I'll be there.........:tu: . That low ET plaque is going to look good sitting next to the first place trophy I plan to walk away with.



Rocks:D


I guess that means this event is for Gen 2's only.;)

[03LightningRocks]

I guess that means this event is for Gen 2's only.;)


LOL...you have to get it down the track without blowing it up....:tu: ....

;)

[Sixpipes]

We're on the TAD schedule. :cool:

http://www.templeacademy.com/schedule.html

[PoorSvtman]

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16133&limit=recent


:eek:

ahh damn im afraid to see whats on the Lfest dvd:hammer: :tu:

[dboat]

Temple Academy Dragway has agreed to print the following flyer and pass it out at their track for the next three weeks to help promote the race. If any of you want to print copies and hand out where appropriate, please feel free to do so. You might want to add track phone number or something like that because these were designed to hand out at the track only. :cool:

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/medium/TFC_IV.jpg

I did notice that the website was incorrect on the bottom of the handout..

www.talonclub.net?? what about www.talonclub.com

Dana

[Sixpipes]

I did notice that the website was incorrect on the bottom of the handout..

www.talonclub.net?? (http://www.talonclub.net??) what about www.talonclub.com (http://www.talonclub.com)

Dana

Doh! Probably won't matter, but I'll make the change. :cool:

[L8 APEX]

I will put up $100 bucks for first place and $50 bucks for second. Why race if it don't pay:tu: . I'll see what else I can scrounge up before the event.

[02BOLT]

I will put up $100 bucks for first place and $50 bucks for second. Why race if it don't pay:tu: . I'll see what else I can scrounge up before the event.

Thanks Terry! That's bada$$!:tu:

[Alpine]

I will put up $100 bucks for first place and $50 bucks for second. Why race if it don't pay:tu: . I'll see what else I can scrounge up before the event.Thats sweet Terry!!!!

[FRDRCING]

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16133&limit=recent


:eek:
:rll:

[PUMP]

Thanks Terry. Also thanks for delivering the Xcalibrator and Hurst Line lock to my house on Sunday. Your customer service is A-1 in my book.:tu:

[Sixpipes]

Prize money?

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/ads_suntan_grab3.jpg

Brilliant!

Does that mean that if I win, I have to turn down the money to keep my amateur status? :D

Thanks for stepping up Terry. :tu:

[Silver_2000]

talonclub.org works as does talonclub.com - talonclub.net doesnt
It could but the question is would it be worth $9.00 a year?

Doug

[Sixpipes]

Well, I know it is NLOC.net so I guess I just got cornfused. :cool:

[Silver_2000]

talonclub.net will work in a few hours.

We have a new sponsor coming soon so I busted out the $9.00

Doug

edit www.talonclub.net should work now

[dboat]

talonclub.net will work in a few hours.

We have a new sponsor coming soon so I busted out the $9.00

Doug

edit www.talonclub.net should work now

Thats what we love about you Doug.. money is no object...


but at least you now have the talonclub.xxx area cornered.

[True Blue Aggie]

Has the information for this event been posted at Haloclub, AustinSVT, etc....? Are we trying to invite every L in Texas for this event?

[sonicbluetommy]

I am assuming there will be a caravan!?!?!? Details???

[Sixpipes]

Has the information for this event been posted at Haloclub, AustinSVT, etc....? Are we trying to invite every L in Texas for this event?

Yes, feel free to invite anyone/everyone. Club membership is not required. If you are members at other forums, please feel free to post the flyer on other boards. I have posted on NLOC and Ford Truck World. Also drop a link to this thread while you're at it. :cool:

[wesman]

What you see here is the ancient Choctaw Banana tribe rain dance for Dec 3rd

:banana:knana:nana2 knana:nana2 knana :nana2 :banana:knana :nana2

See you guys on the 10th :d:throw:

--wes

[Sixpipes]

3 weeks... or if Wes is a good dancer, 4 weeks. :cool:

[wesman]

3 weeks... or if Wes is a good dancer, 4 weeks. :cool:

lol:rll:......:tu:

You did a great job organising this either way Dennis.....thanks for the scouting and efforts put into it :bows:

[PUMP]

Found out Friday that I'm having surgery for a torn rotator cuff on Dec 2nd.:mad: Guess I am also hoping for rain on the 3rd. I probably wont be able to race on the 10th, but I will be able to travel and watch. I also think that I can find a designated driver for my truck. I would add a nana or two to Wes' dance line, but do not want to jinks the job.

[03LightningRocks]

Found out Friday that I'm having surgery for a torn rotator cuff on Dec 2nd.:mad: Guess I am also hoping for rain on the 3rd. I probably wont be able to race on the 10th, but I will be able to travel and watch. I also think that I can find a designated driver for my truck. I would add a nana or two to Wes' dance line, but do not want to jinks the job.


Maybe I can help out. I mentioned in another thread that I had some experience in processing Deer. I feel fairly confident that I can perform the needed surgery. My schedule is full, but I can squeeze yours in on Tuesday, next week.

Be sure and let me know something ASAP, I need to clean off my Kitchen counters before we can begin.

Rocks:tu:


P.S. It will be a day surgery, so bring somebody that can drive you home:cool: .

[tiffo60]

i have a buddy that is coming down with me and I was wondering if he would be able to run his bike during test and tune, we are putting nitrous on it this week and he was wanting to run it in the quarter to see what it would do, so we were going to load it up in the back of the L if there wasnt anyone that had a problem with it?

[True Blue Aggie]

Already checked....there will be available test and tune time for anyone who comes out to the track. Basically the track is open for regular T&T, but is also running our program and the Buick/Olds program....

[PUMP]

If you can improve my eye-right foot coordination at the same time and If you accept Medicare, maybe we can make a deal.:rll:

[my2002lightning]

Deer processing is a BIATCH! :crying: Even with plenty of beer, brothers and cousins that know what to do.:cool:




Maybe I can help out. I mentioned in another thread that I had some experience in processing Deer. I feel fairly confident that I can perform the needed surgery. My schedule is full, but I can squeeze yours in on Tuesday, next week.

Be sure and let me know something ASAP, I need to clean off my Kitchen counters before we can begin.

Rocks:tu:


P.S. It will be a day surgery, so bring somebody that can drive you home:cool: .

[TX SVT LIGHTNING]

I'm not seeing much interest from the few Austin L's yet on AustinSVT. :rolleyes:

[Sixpipes]

I'm not seeing much interest from the few Austin L's yet on AustinSVT. :rolleyes:

Distance to Hallsville was always an issue for the Austin/San Antonio guys. I always suspected that it was just an excuse. I'm OK with it being just a TALON event, but folks are still welcome if they want to show up. :cool:

[REXRENEGADE]

Is'nt This Great! :D

[03LightningRocks]

Is'nt This Great! :D

It will be fun no matter how many show from other clubs. This event is always my favorite of the year:banana: .

If we get a low turn out from the clubs in that area, I think the plan should be Oklahoma for next year;) . Maybe get a better Arkansas/Okie turn out:tu: .

So anywho....it would be nice to see a list of who is planning to go. Maybe we should do a, "are you going thread".

I will be there...and the plan is for Howard to be there doing some video footage:eek: .


Rocksknana

[tiffo60]

count me in:tu:

[FRDRCING]

I'll be there this year

[Logan]

I'll be there with the Supercharged 06 Harley... :D This oversized pig needs a run down the track for some baseline ET's...

[Sixpipes]

1 week from today. Gates open at 2PM. :nana2

[Logan]

It'll be great to see everyone again... knana

[Silver_2000]

when will the raindate decision be made ?
I wouldnt mind it getting delayed till the 10th

Doug

[Sixpipes]

I would expect the track to make a decision by Friday night or at least early enough on Saturday to keep us from making the trip down. :cool:

[True Blue Aggie]

I am trying to remember who went last year that has not posted up for this year's event...

Where is...
WA 2 FST
Sonic Blue Tommy

Bobby Wade is out
Scott would not be invited

Who else?

[03LightningRocks]

I would expect the track to make a decision by Friday night or at least early enough on Saturday to keep us from making the trip down. :cool:

Is the weather calling for a good possibility of rain, or are we just speaking of what if here?

Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind a move to the 10th either.

Rocks

[tiffo60]

if it gets moved to the 10th im out, i am flying to cali on the 9th and wont be back till late the 11th so i am hoping it sticks to the 3rd

[03LightningRocks]

if it gets moved to the 10th im out, i am flying to cali on the 9th and wont be back till late the 11th so i am hoping it sticks to the 3rd

That is only going to happen if it rains on the 3rd.

[Fuzion]

I am jumping in on this a lil late. Just saw it at NHTOC from Trilogy.

Is it alright if a Harley slides in with ya'll?

Dec 3rd is my Birthday.... so i want some fun! What better than drag racing?

[PoorSvtman]

Ill know thursday if i can go or not.. Im about to start working nights..

[03LightningRocks]

I am jumping in on this a lil late. Just saw it at NHTOC from Trilogy.

Is it alright if a Harley slides in with ya'll?

Dec 3rd is my Birthday.... so i want some fun! What better than drag racing?


Close enough for me............Harley trucks are Lightnings with an extra long cab....:beer: .

[99WhiteBeast]

Linky for directions if you don't know
http://maps.yahoo.com/dd;_ylt=Ai8dBRskzrysW.Dw7GYAtqoa3kcC?addr=&csz=&country=us&taddr=&tcsz=Little+River%2C+TX+76554-2524&tcountry=us&oerr=-3001

[liteitup]

Link didn't work for me but it appears you searched "Little River". That is a town and not the track. The track is just south of Academy on hiway 95.

From I-35 take Loop 363 north of Temple. Turn left and cross over I-35. Stay on that road and it will become Hiway 95. After you go through the town of Academy you will cross the Little River(the river, not the town) and the track will be on your right.

[Moonshine]

Hey Dennis,

As a non-Lightning owner I was pretty much ignoring all the TFC stuff, but it just occurred to me that I do own a vehicle, and a truck at that. And it has been a long time since I made a 1/4 pass. Would anyone mind a SD joining in?

Or I could bring the C5, but I'd hate to see it get spanked by all the L's. ;)

Terry, you think the Old Man Tan beast could handle a few passes without any terminal meltdown? What'ya figure, high 13's maybe?

[03LightningRocks]

Hey Dennis,

As a non-Lightning owner I was pretty much ignoring all the TFC stuff, but it just occurred to me that I do own a vehicle, and a truck at that. And it has been a long time since I made a 1/4 pass. Would anyone mind a SD joining in?

Or I could bring the C5, but I'd hate to see it get spanked by all the L's. ;)

Terry, you think the Old Man Tan beast could handle a few passes without any terminal meltdown? What'ya figure, high 13's maybe?


:evil .....I always knew you where a trouble maker :cool:.

At least your diesel is a Ford product. I don't know if Talon wants a Chevy product holding the championship for a year. That might make us look bad on a National level.......:eek: .


Let's just see how that sounds:

Headline....December 4, 2005..... Ford Lightning proves to be no match for Chevy, proud C5 owner Takes local Lightning Club Title.


I dunno....maybe it will have special meaning to the GM crowd, but it stinks just a little from my perspective :rll: :rll: :rll: .


Rocks:)

[tiffo60]

he could run the test n tune, turn into a fun and grudge

[Moonshine]

:evil .....I always knew you where a trouble maker :cool:.
Rocks:)

Well, yeah. My momma' coulda' told you that a loonngg time ago. :D

Nah, the C5 really would get spanked. It's a fun car, but in stock form it's no match for a tuned L. And I can't imagine that I could be terribly consistent with the 6 speed. Although, the best I ever did in the brackets was when I took her Firebird Formula 6 speed to Hallsville. :evil

[03LightningRocks]

Well, yeah. My momma' coulda' told you that a loonngg time ago. :D

Nah, the C5 really would get spanked. It's a fun car, but in stock form it's no match for a tuned L. And I can't imagine that I could be terribly consistent with the 6 speed. Although, the best I ever did in the brackets was when I took her Firebird Formula 6 speed to Hallsville. :evil

See you out there. It should be fun. I've watched some pretty quick diesels going down the track. SCT put a temporary tune on mine at FFW Ennis this year. The darned thing was running low 15's without a problem.


Bring your gun....Mr. Hogge may get out of line after I give him the whipping of his life:eek: .


Rocks

[Silver_2000]

I be there but I need to leave about 6 to head back to Dallas -

Ill deliver the pictures, take a few pictures and make a T&T run or 2 and head back to a B day party....

Doug

PS anyone planning on pickingup your Group pictures BRING a tube of some kind. Even a paper towel tube will help keep the picture from getting damaged - The PT tube is about an inch too short for the big pictures but its better than nothing

[Fuzion]

What time is all this starting/ending?

[Fuzion]

Here is my number....... 214-679-4600

[FATHERFORD]

So did all of yall think TAD sucked as much as the waco crew did? Also the guy with the 06 harley truck, is he on this board?

I have pictures ill post up later, dont know if I got everyone but alot.

[03LightningRocks]

So did all of yall think TAD sucked as much as the waco crew did? Also the guy with the 06 harley truck, is he on this board?

I have pictures ill post up later, dont know if I got everyone but alot.

I bet I thought it sucked even more than you did. I have been to tracks all over the country. TAD is, beyond any doubt, the worst track I have ever raced at.

The guy with the Harley is Logan. You can find him at this link http://www.talonclub.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7

[Logan]

I've been here so long, I have sores on my butt... :D

[FATHERFORD]

Ever since linda took it back over from greg it has went downhill fast.

Logan I PM'd you.

[Sixpipes]

I've been to worse, but I am in agreement that we don't need to consider the track for next year's event. We will focus on Thunder Valley and get things worked out by the end of next summer so we won't get caught without a track like we did this year. Thanks to all those that showed up to support TALON yesterday. :tu:

[Mark #2]

It was good for me... a new PB at 11.59, best 60 ft also, so track prep was good, much better than Hallsville. Shut down area was not an issue.

[dboat]

Ok, so what was good and what was bad about the track?
Dana:confused:

[Mark #2]

Ok, so what was good and what was bad about the track?
Dana:confused:

It's old, it's tight, it's bumpy, with guardrails and trees, if you have a problem it would require some skill to escape.

It's run by estrogen.

Good track prep to the 1/8.

It is really a 1/8 mile track if you are fast.

[Silver_2000]

It was good for me... a new PB at 11.59, best 60 ft also, so track prep was good, much better than Hallsville. Shut down area was not an issue.

Wow - great news on the PB - I found the traction to be lacking on my F1's and on the stock tires on the supercharged 2006 harley of logans

I pulled a best of 1.99 on my truck but even that was spinning a LOT

How much did it cool after I left ? When did you run your best run ? Early or late ?

Doug

[Sixpipes]

I didn't really have any problem with the track because I knew what to expect from my previous trip. I did take issue with the change in fees from what I had previously arranged with the track owner. And probably more than anything, really had a problem with their lack of concern about the issue not to mention the attitude that some the hired help had. They won't have to bother with us again for sure. :(

[Mark #2]

Wow - great news on the PB - I found the traction to be lacking on my F1's and on the stock tires on the supercharged 2006 harley of logans

I pulled a best of 1.99 on my truck but even that was spinning a LOT

How much did it cool after I left ? When did you run your best run ? Early or late ?

Doug

First pass, 80+ degrees I think.

[Moonshine]

a new PB at 11.59

Wow! :bows That's smokin' Mark. Way to go. knana

[Mark #2]

Wow! :bows That's smokin' Mark. Way to go. knana

Thanks, and it feels fast too. Stock block Talon record?

[tiffo60]

+1 for the attitude of the hired help, i think they didnt care for us at all, but either way our money will definitley be spent else where

[03LightningRocks]

My issue with the track had more to do with safety than prep. The part of the track that was prepped(the first eighth mile) was fine. I really didn't feel comfortable with trees along the track. The shut down was a bit short...but not as bad as it looked when first seeing it.

The track personal had something of an attitude.

Over All...worst track I have ever visited. Based mostly on the tree lined, very tight, lanes. I won't be going back there.

One more thing...I really would love to meet the two Joe Bobs that saw a hunk of unused highway along a creek and decided to call it a race track. This is what you would call, old school race track building...;) ....Texas Style...:rll:

[Sandman]

So, where are the pics?

[Fuzion]

I had fun! First time racing at the track, not bad... But damn it was in the middle of nowhere!

[TX SVT LIGHTNING]

One more thing...I really would love to meet the two Joe Bobs that saw a hunk of unused highway along a creek and decided to call it a race track. This is what you would call, old school race track building...;) ....Texas Style...:rll:

It's old alright, heard some of my older co-workers sayinig they went out there back in the 50's. It's the closest track to Austin but alot of us make the trek to San Antonio Raceway (On I-10 between Seguin & San Antonio).

[Silver_2000]

Didnt get any track pictures but here are some shots from the pits ..

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=6099
Logan took some track shots - Hopefully well see some of them soon

[tliss]

OK, I gotta know...what was Cathy caught red handed doing?

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/6099/medium/P1080101.JPG

Tom

[Wht95Lightning]

I'm going to guess she was sneaking a smoke.

[Aggie Mom]

Me smoke...never. Doug photoshopped that picture :rll: The bad thing about it is, I quit for a whole year.

[Logan]

Pics! Or at least the one's I took... :)

Clicky Click (http://www.trilogyf150.com/gallery/index.php?twg_album=TempleAcademy)

[tliss]

Ahhh...the tradition continues. Seems like at every event there is at least one picture like this. Whew...I thought we broke tradition this time

http://www.trilogyf150.com/gallery/image.php?twg_album=TempleAcademy&twg_type=small&twg_show=RES_0243.JPG&twg_rot=-1

Tom

[Logan]

I pulled the one where he mooned me...

[True Blue Aggie]

http://www.trilogyf150.com/gallery/image.php?twg_album=TempleAcademy&twg_show=RES_0090.JPG

This is seems to be a recurring theme for BC Lightning.....

5-1 lifetime record.....:nana2

[Logan]

You should've seen how quick Dennis can change a coil pack... I barely even saw his hands move he was goin so quick...

http://www.trilogyf150.com/gallery/image.php?twg_album=TempleAcademy&twg_show=RES_0230.JPG

Oh wait... that's just my shitty photography... ;)

Don't worry says Dennis... It's alllllllllllll good....

http://www.trilogyf150.com/gallery/image.php?twg_album=TempleAcademy&twg_show=RES_0207.JPG

[Sixpipes]

http://www.trilogyf150.com/gallery/image.php?twg_album=TempleAcademy&twg_show=RES_0207.JPG

Actually, I was holding up two fingers because that was the number of cylinders missing. :hammer:

[Mark #2]

Hey Sixpipes, how did the bike pictures turn out? That was the coolest bike I have ever seen. Including Biker Build off that I am watching now.

[Sixpipes]

Hey Sixpipes, how did the bike pictures turn out? That was the coolest bike I have ever seen. Including Biker Build off that I am watching now.

All the pictures turned out blurry due to slow shutter speed. Hopefully, some one else got a few pics.

[Silver_2000]

You should've seen how quick Dennis can change a coil pack... I barely even saw his hands move he was goin so quick...



Oh wait... that's just my shitty photography... ;)

Don't worry says Dennis... It's alllllllllllll good....



Logan

The pics look fuzzy .. Is it a focus problem or shutter speed ???
I think it may have been shutter speed but who knows..
Do you have the exif info on those pics ? Would love to see the details
Doug

[BC Lightning]

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/PICT2049.JPG (http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=17455&ppuser=220)

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/PICT2051.JPG (http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=17456&ppuser=220)

http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/data/500/PICT2042.JPG (http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=17454&ppuser=220)

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